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Post by howlincoyote on Mar 20, 2017 13:41:33 GMT -6
Not to be a Debbie Downer, but I've been checking from time to time on the Drake message board since the rumors about Drake and Coach Smith first came up, and someone posted this recent tweet:
Seems a little more serious than the random fake-looking account that tweeted stuff the first time a couple of days/weeks ago.
The Creighton coach's name, DeVries, also seems familiar, but I'm not sure why.
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Post by usdtator on Mar 20, 2017 14:40:57 GMT -6
I hope we hear soon that Smith is getting a good pay raise and a 3 to 5 year contract. That will hopefully quell any rumors of him leaving in the foreseeable future.
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Post by howlincoyote on Mar 20, 2017 15:08:54 GMT -6
I hope we hear soon that Smith is getting a good pay raise and a 3 to 5 year contract. That will hopefully quell any rumors of him leaving in the foreseeable future. Yeah, and when I said "I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer," I didn't mean it in the sense that I think Coach Smith would take the job. I just know a couple people commented the first time around that it wasn't news they wanted to hear because they didn't want him to leave yet. My point was that this source/Twitter account seems a little more reliable (and actually has a name/face attached to it), so it might be a little more serious or possible than the first tweet that started the rumors.
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Mar 20, 2017 16:11:57 GMT -6
Darian DeVries makes sense. He was previously rumored for the SDSU job last year. He is a UNI guy.
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Post by Yotes on Mar 20, 2017 17:10:59 GMT -6
Drake just doesn't make sense. Well, not for Craig Smith at least. Makes sense for Drake to reach out. Another Summit title and Smith could be in line for jobs that are unquestionably one step away from the power conferences. Drake is just way too big of a project in a conference where even a 26 win team can't get an at large bid.
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Post by usdtator on Mar 21, 2017 10:19:34 GMT -6
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Post by easmus on Mar 21, 2017 11:04:36 GMT -6
Craig probably doesn't have a contract for next year so may as well interview even if just for leverage. Max deal in SD is now 3 years.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 21, 2017 11:59:51 GMT -6
Craig probably doesn't have a contract for next year so may as well interview even if just for leverage. Max deal in SD is now 3 years. I know this is the coaching business but doesn't this give at least some hesitation to the commitment of Smith to the program. He has one good year and he is already out interviewing for a position. Maybe the players feel just a little bit slighted by that news. They might not say it publicly but I can see how they would think that Smith maybe has just one foot out the door already.
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Post by usdtator on Mar 21, 2017 12:31:06 GMT -6
IMO... These teams should be looking at Otz. Look at all the success he had this year... Righting the ship mid-season and taking the bunnies to the Dance in his first year. Heck, it took Coach Smith three years to make it to the post season. Otz is clearly a better coach... We better hang on to Smith a couple more years to let him continue developing his coaching style.
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Post by easmus on Mar 21, 2017 14:09:27 GMT -6
Craig probably doesn't have a contract for next year so may as well interview even if just for leverage. Max deal in SD is now 3 years. I know this is the coaching business but doesn't this give at least some hesitation to the commitment of Smith to the program. He has one good year and he is already out interviewing for a position. Maybe the players feel just a little bit slighted by that news. They might not say it publicly but I can see how they would think that Smith maybe has just one foot out the door already. I don't think it hurts to listen if someone is interested in you. Especially if you don't have a contract for the following season.
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Post by goyotes24 on Mar 21, 2017 15:22:12 GMT -6
Medved was an assistant at CSU with Smith
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Post by sdyotefan on Mar 21, 2017 15:39:48 GMT -6
Hopefully Smith remains a Coyote!!!
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 21, 2017 15:45:24 GMT -6
Garman was just on KWSN sports talk after 4PM and according to him (or at least his gut feeling) he is saying that Craig Smith is the top candidate of the three finalists but those three might not be the only 3 still being considered. This is starting to get a little more serious then we thought just a couple of days ago. Whether Smith get's offered the position or not I would think Smith is looking at minimum a 100K raise. That would just be close to matching what Oztelberger is getting at State (like they like to be know as nationally, not South Dakota State, but just State).
I do not blame USD for not having him under a multi-year contract until possibly now. Prior to this year Smith was not deserving of a multi year deal. My oh my how things change. It's time to lock him up if that is even possible any more.
I would say at this point there is about a 60% chance Smith is at USD next year but 1 week ago that percentage was probably over 90%. My guess in all of this is that Smith gets offered 500K if he is offered the job but he ends up staying at USD for 350K. Drake is a dumpster fire program and has been for most of the last 40 years. They had one tourney appearance 9 years ago and they lost in the first round as a 5 seed. Smith can look at this two ways. He either takes a job in the Valley for the challenge but more in particular the challenge of turning around Drake. I think what he actually does is stay at USD for a significant raise and also out of fear that Drake could be career suicide, like Wyoming football is/was.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 17:47:57 GMT -6
I thought it was crazy when I first heard the news. Not that he's not deserving, but that I thought he'd be around a couple more years.
I still assume he'll just use this as leverage for a new contract, but maybe he wants to get out when his team is doing well. It's going to be tough to win in Sioux Falls against Daum and the SDSU crowd for at least the next couple of years and he has to think about that.
I think fans should be hammering him for a message to the University that he's staying. I also wonder if this will hurt recruiting at all considering he'll likely be gone in the next couple of years. Likely the same thing can be said about Otzelberger and that's the worst thing about being a mid-major.
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Post by wrj on Mar 21, 2017 18:00:48 GMT -6
IMO... These teams should be looking at Otz. Look at all the success he had this year... Righting the ship mid-season and taking the bunnies to the Dance in his first year. Heck, it took Coach Smith three years to make it to the post season. Otz is clearly a better coach... We better hang on to Smith a couple more years to let him continue developing his coaching style. It's a subject we will all be talking about after every moderately successful season because it is the way of life of the mid-majors. I have stated my opinion that AJ will be picky about where he would go based on the words of people who know him. But, I am surprised we aren't seeing rumors yet about his next coaching job. I expect him to coach elsewhere before his retirement, unless his goals are to move beyond coaching. I expect TJ's tenure at State to be short, especially if he can continue the success he had in the last third of the season. I think he will be back next year. But after that, if the Jackrabbits have a good season, who knows? One reason that I think Smith will move on if he has an opportunity to do so is that the conference will possibly be tougher next year and it could be very difficult to repeat or exceed this season's success. Another poor to mediocre season or two could spell a long tenure at USD.
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