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Post by bisoninnwmn on Oct 15, 2015 6:54:19 GMT -6
Will Coach Glenn keep going after this season?
He is definitely a very likeable person and has had a very good career.
What kind of coach do you guys think it would take to get USD to the top of the Valley?
Can they do it with teams like UNI, SDSU and NDSU having dominate programs already?
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Post by bisoninnwmn on Oct 15, 2015 6:58:23 GMT -6
I think USD could be a regular top 1/2 Valley team with the right coach and more $$ to pay assistants.
Winning cures a lot of "ills".
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Post by yotemeal on Oct 15, 2015 8:35:01 GMT -6
Barring a reinvigorating turnaround, I think Joe will and should step down at the end of the year, and he'll deservedly have our gratitude for coming out of retirement and serving his alma mater. His replacement will fit one of two profiles: a stepping stone candidate trying to climb or re-climb the coaching latter, or a destination candidate who, with regional ties, lifestyle preferences, etc., might be perfectly content finishing his coaching career at USD. At the end of the day, there are a finite number of Division-I head football coaching jobs available and many, many more coaches chasing the dream. Giving the dead horse another left hook, I agree that USD needs to invest more in its football program. To that point, I think some exciting changes are on the horizon. But in the meantime, I reject the notion that being head coach of the University of South Dakota football program means coaching with an arm tied behind your back. Our next head coach needs to accept that, at least initially, he'll be asked to do more with less. That may sound unfair, but that's life, and that's where great leaders are forged.
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Post by Yote 53 on Oct 15, 2015 9:32:51 GMT -6
Next year USD will be one of the only two schools in the MVFC offering FCOA to its football recruits, although I expect SDSU to be the third very shortly. That may not be an investment in the facilities, it's even better, it's a direct investment in the student-athletes. It will make a huge difference in recruiting.
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Post by yoteforever on Oct 15, 2015 12:35:15 GMT -6
Next year USD will be one of the only two schools in the MVFC offering FCOA to its football recruits, although I expect SDSU to be the third very shortly. That may not be an investment in the facilities, it's even better, it's a direct investment in the student-athletes. It will make a huge difference in recruiting. That's really a good post. My guess that advantage will be short term though as other schools will have to follow the likes of those commited to doing so early. If not, and other schools reject the funding, that will be a huge recruiting advantage.. Very good point 53 |
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Oct 15, 2015 15:29:01 GMT -6
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Post by Coyote Fan on Oct 15, 2015 18:07:45 GMT -6
Barring a reinvigorating turnaround, I think Joe will and should step down at the end of the year, and he'll deservedly have our gratitude for coming out of retirement and serving his alma mater. His replacement will fit one of two profiles: a stepping stone candidate trying to climb or re-climb the coaching latter, or a destination candidate who, with regional ties, lifestyle preferences, etc., might be perfectly content finishing his coaching career at USD. At the end of the day, there are a finite number of Division-I head football coaching jobs available and many, many more coaches chasing the dream. Giving the dead horse another left hook, I agree that USD needs to invest more in its football program. To that point, I think some exciting changes are on the horizon. But in the meantime, I reject the notion that being head coach of the University of South Dakota football program means coaching with an arm tied behind your back. Our next head coach needs to accept that, at least initially, he'll be asked to do more with less. That may sound unfair, but that's life, and that's where great leaders are forged. Yotemeal I am going to give props to this quote that I consider one of the best quotes of this season. I totally believe this to be very true as well. "But in the meantime, I reject the notion that being head coach of the University of South Dakota football program means coaching with an arm tied behind your back". That is so true. Just because things are not clicking now doesn't mean they won't later. Stig at SDSU proved that he could go from an above average coach (not great) at the D2 level to a very good coach in the FCS and in the Valley. The Valley is tough but that doesn't mean that USD can't be an upper tier Valley program any more than the teams that are currently at the top. NDSU might be the exception to the rule but USD has the ability to catch or even surpass the rest of the programs. It just takes a total effort from the entire program to make that happen. SDSU has proven that it can be done with sub par facilities and a sub par stadium for the FCS level including a mediocre budget. The facilities are improving but they have proven that it can be done with the proper coaching staff in place despite many other disadvantages. I am going to make a statement that I truly believe in and will stand by whether I am right or wrong. USD with the right head coach and coaching staff (not a pipe dream staff but a realistic one) can become a respectable program in the Valley in year 1 and become a top tier Valley team in year 3. I say that with 80% certainty. |
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Post by yoteforever on Oct 15, 2015 18:42:08 GMT -6
Barring a reinvigorating turnaround, I think Joe will and should step down at the end of the year, and he'll deservedly have our gratitude for coming out of retirement and serving his alma mater. His replacement will fit one of two profiles: a stepping stone candidate trying to climb or re-climb the coaching latter, or a destination candidate who, with regional ties, lifestyle preferences, etc., might be perfectly content finishing his coaching career at USD. At the end of the day, there are a finite number of Division-I head football coaching jobs available and many, many more coaches chasing the dream. Giving the dead horse another left hook, I agree that USD needs to invest more in its football program. To that point, I think some exciting changes are on the horizon. But in the meantime, I reject the notion that being head coach of the University of South Dakota football program means coaching with an arm tied behind your back. Our next head coach needs to accept that, at least initially, he'll be asked to do more with less. That may sound unfair, but that's life, and that's where great leaders are forged. Yotemeal I am going to give props to this quote that I consider one of the best quotes of this season. I totally believe this to be very true as well. "But in the meantime, I reject the notion that being head coach of the University of South Dakota football program means coaching with an arm tied behind your back". That is so true. Just because things are not clicking now doesn't mean they won't later. Stig at SDSU proved that he could go from an above average coach (not great) at the D2 level to a very good coach in the FCS and in the Valley. The Valley is tough but that doesn't mean that USD can't be an upper tier Valley program any more than the teams that are currently at the top. NDSU might be the exception to the rule but USD has the ability to catch or even surpass the rest of the programs. It just takes a total effort from the entire program to make that happen. SDSU has proven that it can be done with sub par facilities and a sub par stadium for the FCS level including a mediocre budget. The facilities are improving but they have proven that it can be done with the proper coaching staff in place despite many other disadvantages. I am going to make a statement that I truly believe in and will stand by whether I am right or wrong. USD with the right head coach and coaching staff (not a pipe dream staff but a realistic one) can become a respectable program in the Valley in year 1 and become a top tier Valley team in year 3. I say that with 80% certainty. Talk about a hedging statement. IF we hire the right coaches. Are you going to express if we hired the right coach when we annouce? Secondly, I say this with 80% certainty. So you can fall back on the 20%? If you're going to say something that you'll stand by, then say it that way. Good grief quit playing both sides. I'll say this. If we don't up the ante on salaries AND invest in facilities AND recruiting budget, I'll predict with 100% certainty we won't be in the upper echelon. Again, I hope I'm wrong but will bet I'm not. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Oct 15, 2015 19:00:39 GMT -6
Yoteforever you were also 100% certain that the Yotes were better this year. How is that looking now. As far as the 80% part. Nothing is ever guaranteed. Maybe no matter who the coach is USD will not win period but I think that is doubtful. Yoteforever face it, you are the biggest red cool-aid drinker on this board. Despite nothing tangible changing in the off season you still bought into that idea that somehow this was a changed football team. I still wonder why you thought or think that. You let your heart and emotions get too close to the program and your judgement of the facts gets skewed because of it. You can be as great of a football fan as they come but that doesn't mean you have a good idea of the pulse of the program.
I would have to say that at least two-thirds of the people on this board disagreed that Glenn should be fired after last season. The other third would refuse to admit it in fear that they would be ridiculed or be considered an outsider or a non fan somehow. Well now we are at least 1 year behind the curve in improving the program. There were nada signs that the program was improving at the end of last year. A blind eye was turned to the problems and nothing was done despite objective knowledge that a change needed to be made. People too close to the program are in love with Joe's personality despite shortcomings in coaching. That probably led to him being given at least one year too many. A coach should be judged on job performance not how well he can recite the school song.
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Post by GoYotes on Oct 15, 2015 19:08:52 GMT -6
Yoteforever you were also 100% certain that the Yotes were better this year. How is that looking now. As far as the 80% part. Nothing is ever guaranteed. Maybe no matter who the coach is USD will not win period but I think that is doubtful. Yoteforever face it, you are the biggest red cool-aid drinker on this board. Despite nothing tangible changing in the off season you still bought into that idea that somehow this was a changed football team. I still wonder why you thought or think that. You let your heart and emotions get too close to the program and your judgement of the facts gets skewed because of it. You can be as great of a football fan as they come but that doesn't mean you have a good idea of the pulse of the program. I would have to say that at least two-thirds of the people on this board disagreed that Glenn should be fired after last season. The other third would refuse to admit it in fear that they would be ridiculed or be considered an outsider or a non fan somehow. Well now we are at least 1 year behind the curve in improving the program. There were nada signs that the program was improving at the end of last year. A blind eye was turned to the problems and nothing was done despite objective knowledge that a change needed to be made. People too close to the program are in love with Joe's personality despite shortcomings in coaching. That probably led to him being given at least one year too many. A coach should be judged on job performance not how well he can recite the school song. Didn't realize this years season was over already. |
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Post by yoteforever on Oct 15, 2015 19:14:22 GMT -6
I would debate you all day and night, but everyone on here is sick of us going back and forth, and rightfully so. You have the pulse of the program, ascertained from your LazyBoy, so I defer to your superior football knowledge. I'm done with you. You have made me realize we need more non fans like you not to sit in seats or support the program financially, then we are heading places.
Anything I have to say to you in the future I will do so with private messages. Or I'll say it before the next home game. Oh wait, you won't be there. Forgot. Sorry. I'll call Herbster to try and get you on search committee.
Sorry Coyote fans for making this personal. I mean it.
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Post by lakesbison on Oct 15, 2015 20:13:43 GMT -6
Center is out for NDSU & couple others are nursing injuries.
NDSU is going to look to establish the running game, something that was missing last week.
if USD was smart, they'd offer NDSU's D Coordinator Matt Entz the head job. he was at UNI before that, he's an iowa boy. but SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH .
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Post by Yotes on Oct 15, 2015 20:23:45 GMT -6
Center is out for NDSU & couple others are nursing injuries. NDSU is going to look to establish the running game, something that was missing last week. if USD was smart, they'd offer NDSU's D Coordinator Matt Entz the head job. he was at UNI before that, he's an iowa boy. but SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH . I'm sure we will have a different head coach when NDSU comes to Vermillion next year, but it isn't a productive topic for us right now. |
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Post by yoteforever on Oct 16, 2015 8:01:54 GMT -6
Play hard guys. Good luck
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Post by sdyotefan on Oct 16, 2015 9:59:47 GMT -6
GO YOTES!!!
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