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[Yotes]

I feel that if this team had a QB ranking in the top half of the league we would be a playoff team. I hate to have that statement be a knock against Saeger, he is clearly a leader on this team, but he just isn't going to win games for us if the run isn't working well. I will agree with the sentiment that Joe deserves another year, short of an absolute collapse down the stretch. The team is much improved over last year and there looks to be a ton of young talent coming up. Don't want to make a coaching change and ruin that momentum.

[Yote 53]

My how times have changed. I am not on one side of the fence or the other on this, simply playing devil's advocate. After the YSU and WIU games people around here were resolved there needed to be a coaching change at the end of the season. Now we are talking about retaining the staff and maintaining momentum in the program. What changed? One win, that is all. It still remains to be seen whether that win against NDSU is a true indication of the team's improvement, or if it was an outlier, just a day where the boys put everything together and it worked out. I'm waiting on the rest of the season's results.

[yote14]

I agree. I had some negative comments after that second conference loss to WIU with how those losses happened. I have stated before how fortunate we are to have a guy of Glenn's caliber with our current situation and I let the negativity of the moment guide my thoughts in the wrong direction. If we went 0-8 in the conference again change no doubt had to happen.

But if we can win the next 2 games, I'm not expecting us to win against the redbirds as I do not think NDSU could beat them this year even, that would give us a winning record and we beat the two Dakota rivals. That's a pretty good step in the right direction with another good recruiting class coming in because of the fact we are one of 4 schools in FCS offering FCOA. That is going to be our life saver and anyone who things it will not play an absolute role in an 18 year old kid deciding where he's going to school is kidding themselves.

[Coyote Fan]

Nov 5, 2015 8:09:17 GMT -6 nccyote said:

Agreed...I don't think anyone in FCS can say they have a back equal to Zenner this year. He was one of the great backs in FCS history IMO. Not the fairest of measuring sticks there. Other than that, I agree with a lot of what CF, yoteforever,and 1985 have said.

Consistency is one of the biggest ingredients to playing good offensive football, and we haven't really been able to acheive that this season. It seems like we either play really well, or not so well at all, hence the 4-4 record.

Well the Yotes had Stefan Logan and I think he can be compared to Zenner. Logan was the type of back that could carry an entire team on his shoulders.

[Coyote Fan]

Yoteforever,

I do agree with you about Frederick. For the most part what I have seen from him I like. He is my favorite player on the entire offense. I prefer a smaller shifty back like him compared to a bigger bruising back that doesn't quite have the burst that a Frederick has.

[Coyote Fan]

Nov 5, 2015 12:31:15 GMT -6 Yote 53 said:

My how times have changed. I am not on one side of the fence or the other on this, simply playing devil's advocate. After the YSU and WIU games people around here were resolved there needed to be a coaching change at the end of the season. Now we are talking about retaining the staff and maintaining momentum in the program. What changed? One win, that is all. It still remains to be seen whether that win against NDSU is a true indication of the team's improvement, or if it was an outlier, just a day where the boys put everything together and it worked out. I'm waiting on the rest of the season's results.

You are totally correct with that statement. Other than the NDSU game there really hasn't been a complete game that the Yotes have played all year other than against Drake and to a smaller extent Missouri State but is any win considered very impressive against either of those teams. The UC Davis game was fairly impressive but it was against what is looking like a not very good team as well. The games against the average Valley teams are still producing double digit losses. To keep a semblance of the feel of improvement The Coyotes need to beat Southern Illinois to keep that vibe going or the rest of the year could slip down the tubes pretty quickly.

Last year the standard was set about as low as is possible for the program so even a mild improvement still does not produce the net result of a good football team. I see the improvement as mild this year whereas others see it as substantial which is the different between my view being pessimistic vs someone else's view being optimistic.

This season can still be viewed in two completely opposite mindsets depending on what happens in the last 3 games. If the Coyotes win the last 3 almost no one could say that it wouldn't be considered an extremely successful season at 5-3 in the Valley. How do the Yotes not make the playoffs if that happens? If that happens Glen would be deserving of another year. On the other hand if the Coyotes lose the last 3 they finish the season at 2-6 in the Valley and Glen's 4 year conference record shows 5-27 with no wins in the last 4 weeks of the season in any of his 4 years. Folks that is not good any way you want to shape it up. In no way would he deserve another year in that senario. There is plenty of middle ground to be had but Glenn's overall record at USD does not do him any favors if the Yotes don't finish out the season on a high note. The program has many more questions than answers at this point in time.

[nccyote]

Nov 5, 2015 19:25:28 GMT -6 Coyote Fan said:

Nov 5, 2015 8:09:17 GMT -6 nccyote said:

Agreed...I don't think anyone in FCS can say they have a back equal to Zenner this year. He was one of the great backs in FCS history IMO. Not the fairest of measuring sticks there. Other than that, I agree with a lot of what CF, yoteforever,and 1985 have said.

Consistency is one of the biggest ingredients to playing good offensive football, and we haven't really been able to acheive that this season. It seems like we either play really well, or not so well at all, hence the 4-4 record.

Well the Yotes had Stefan Logan and I think he can be compared to Zenner. Logan was the type of back that could carry an entire team on his shoulders.

That was 9 seasons ago, aren't we talking about the present.  Not saying that it can't happen, but you don't see backs of that caliber very often.  Those guys are 2 of the best players in their programs history.  Just because you aren't as good as Stefan Logan or Zenner doesn't mean that your not a quality player.  As a matter of fact, I would say that Stef as a freshman and Fredericks as a freshman aren't that far off.

[nccyote]

Nov 6, 2015 8:06:14 GMT -6 nccyote said:

Nov 5, 2015 19:25:28 GMT -6 Coyote Fan said:

Well the Yotes had Stefan Logan and I think he can be compared to Zenner. Logan was the type of back that could carry an entire team on his shoulders.

That was 9 seasons ago, aren't we talking about the present.  Not saying that it can't happen, but you don't see backs of that caliber very often.  Those guys are 2 of the best players in their programs history.  Just because you aren't as good as Stefan Logan or Zenner doesn't mean that your not a quality player.  As a matter of fact, I would say that Stef as a freshman and Fredericks as a freshman aren't that far off.

Not to take anything away from Stefan, because he was one of the best football players I have ever seen.  But he also had a great offense around him.  A couple All-Americans on the offensive line, Wesley Beschorner at QB, Derek Gearman and Brooks Little at WR, back up Travis Mlady was a great compliment to him(very physical, punishing runner)....the list goes on.  

[Yotes]

Nov 6, 2015 8:11:41 GMT -6 nccyote said:

Nov 6, 2015 8:06:14 GMT -6 nccyote said:

That was 9 seasons ago, aren't we talking about the present.  Not saying that it can't happen, but you don't see backs of that caliber very often.  Those guys are 2 of the best players in their programs history.  Just because you aren't as good as Stefan Logan or Zenner doesn't mean that your not a quality player.  As a matter of fact, I would say that Stef as a freshman and Fredericks as a freshman aren't that far off.

Not to take anything away from Stefan, because he was one of the best football players I have ever seen.  But he also had a great offense around him.  A couple All-Americans on the offensive line, Wesley Beschorner at QB, Derek Gearman and Brooks Little at WR, back up Travis Mlady was a great compliment to him(very physical, punishing runner)....the list goes on.  

Not old enough to have watched him as a Yote, but I would think playing in the NCC did him a few more favors than if he had played in the MVFC too.