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Post by fightsd on Nov 17, 2015 8:20:15 GMT -6
If your only yardstick for success is records you are truly missing the point. But that is OK I should have figured that would be your response. It's not the only yardstick just the biggest one. If the Yotes are a losing football team but the coach is a nice guy who cares. I have said this before but there are a million nice guys in the world but that doesn't make them all good football coaches. Whether a coach is nice or not isn't real relevant to the success of a football program. How nice the head football coach is ranks about #100 in the qualities one wants in a program. It's certainly not a bad thing but just not that big of a deal. Spoken like somebody that never played the game. For somebody that demands unrealistic results, you sure are set on making this program toxic to recruits. The "Joe Glenn factor" has brought more talent to this university than we could have ever fathomed with Ed or anybody else. How do you think we compete with the XDSUs or the UNIs for recruits? Brag about our stellar record and outdated facilities? No, you sit them down and prove to them that you're as committed to their success as they are to the program's. There's nobody that does that better than Joe Glenn.
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Post by 88grad on Nov 17, 2015 8:34:19 GMT -6
"Winning is the only thing" is a great mantra - when you're talking professional sports. Most of the kids playing at USD right now will never have the opportunity to play professionally. When they are being led by individuals who aren't just teaching them Xs and Os but true life lessons that will serve them and those around them for a lifetime then I don't care as much about the number of Ws. Sure, it sucks to watch our team lose but I'm sure that these kids aren't losers and never will be.
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Post by nccyote on Nov 17, 2015 8:34:47 GMT -6
It's not the only yardstick just the biggest one. If the Yotes are a losing football team but the coach is a nice guy who cares. I have said this before but there are a million nice guys in the world but that doesn't make them all good football coaches. Whether a coach is nice or not isn't real relevant to the success of a football program. How nice the head football coach is ranks about #100 in the qualities one wants in a program. It's certainly not a bad thing but just not that big of a deal. If the coaches biggest yardstick is "wins", then the fans biggest yardstick is "donations"......so how much did you donate to the football program this season? I think that we need to stop calling out people for how much they "donate" as if making a "donation" makes you some sort of all-knowing super fan. If you are in the financial position to make contributions to the the athletic program and join the HP, thats great, by all means do so as it is a great cause and surely helps our athletic programs. However, if someone chooses not to donate, for whatever reason, that shouldn't make them any less of a fan or make there opinions any less important, and they should not be questioned about their level of "fandom" strictly because they do not "donate". If you disagree with someone's opinion, thats fine, thats what this fan board is for. But it seems like anytime certain people might have a contradictory opinion, the "donation" card is automatically played. It makes no sense to me that the amount of $ that you donate somehow is supposed to automatically justify your opinions or defunct someone elses. I'm not picking on yoda, because he is definitely not the first, and probably won't be the last to use this argument, but I just think it has no relevance in most discussions. Just my opinion, sorry for ranting. GO YOTES! BEAT THE REDBIRDS
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 17, 2015 8:38:22 GMT -6
First of all, no matter what your beliefs are about me, I do respect all posts on here presenting your thoughts on which way the program should go. Coyotefan, I respect your analysis at times and you can be spot on in your assessments, but what I don't respect is the fact you were calling for a change very early in the season. To me, and maybe me alone, your constant dwelling on the negative grated me the wrong way. The point I was trying to make throughout our childish banter back and forth was let the season play out before everyone wants Joe gone, or stay for that matter. Statistically no one can argue your facts on records, percentages, etc. Had 2014 not been 0-8, I'm not sure the tone would have been what it was, but the fact is we were 0-8, so let's deal with it.
Cousin Eddie made a post earlier in which he explained the two positions Coyotefan and I had, and his perspective was spot on. He went on to say, in a non threatening way, that although he respected my posts, he wasn't sure he agreed given the facts. Cousin Eddie and I are friends, and I have a hunch if we lived in the same city, we would be pretty darned good friends. I am not at all disappointed in his post regarding his thoughts because he has the right to feel that way. And to me his logic iis, as usual, spot on. He gets sports. He gets the sports business. My point in defending Coach Glenn and staff was twofold. First, and no one that understands the game can t argue, is that we are better. We are relevant. That's important in building a program. Secondly, in my opinion, it was nonsense and detrimental to the overall health and status of the program to call for firing staff after the Youngstown game. Even if they went 0-8, it was nonsense. Destructive.
In my opinion, here's where we are at. And this is my opinion only. I don't know anything that anyone else does, but my gut feel is Coach Glenn will resign after next weeks game. If that happens, then I don't think the staff will stay on, even with a new coach. He will have no other choice than to clean house so to speak. If you have an ounce of compassion, it is sickening to see some of the staff go, not all, but some. Wesley is the very epitome of Coyote football. He was the runner up in the national race of player of the year in D2 football. He is fine young man married to a great young lady and has family now. Wesley is exactly what every Coyote football player should try to be. Remember he was thrust into the role of OC because we didn't have the $$$ money to pay back when Ed was coaching. You can argue that point all day long but that is my gut feel. Secondly, our defense has improved big time. I'm not saying we are world beaters, but the world doesn't beat us either. Jason Petrino has done a very good job of putting togther a squad that does compete well in the MVFC. I could go on about each coach, some of which I think have done a good job, some that I don't. But there's no point, because as of some point in the near future we start over AGAIN
Maybe it's time for that to happen, maybe not. But it just sickens me to my stomach that there are a very few people on here that shout at the top of their lungs about how shitty we are, and how poor of a job we've done, yet don't want to participate in finding a solution, or contributing to the cause to indeed find a fix. I will say it again, USD has had some good years, but in the overall scheme of things, have not been relevant for a long period of time. We have been relevant for short periods of time in long periods of time, but we haven't been NDSU. We have issues that need to be dealt with. One year contracts as an example. They are killers. Let me cite an example. Let's say we wanted to hire the OC at NDSU to take over the program. I don't even know who it is, I'm just using an example. We will call him Coach Joe Blow. Coach Blow gets excited about coming, and is willing to take the job, but as the AD I want to put a clause in his contract that he can't leave USD and take another job in the Valley. That's a fair hung to put in don't you think? Well, we can't do that, because we operate off one year contracts. So now Coach Blow does indeed get the program built up, and we dethrone the Bison for 2-3 years, and they fore their coach. Guess who comes calling for our coach? And we can't do crap about it. That is not an unlikely scenario. That's just one downfall to the one year contract.
For Joe Glenn's sanity, he should step down. He loves this place like no other, and has given his heart and soul. Looking back, maybe he should've started with all new staff,but right now that doesn't make any difference. It is what it is. As much as I thought firing Ed was wrong, I feel that certain peoples clammoring for Joes job back in September was worse. And we've all heard certain people say they won't donate or come to games until we win. Wow. Really? And you call yourselves Coyote fans? If Joe does step down, and we hire Coach Blow, I'll be there for him and his staff. I will donate what I can, and I will continue to support Coyote sports. I'll continue going to games both at home and on the road, because at the end of the day, it isn't about the coaches, it's about the kids. The young men that play on this team are fantastic young men that will do well in life. They are respectful, and they have done everything that was asked of them. And they are better. 5-5 isn't great, but it isn't bad either. I'm proud of them, and I'm proud of many posters on here that post fair and balanced and objective posts, and not play the role of Captain Obvious.
Thanks to this staff for the efforts they have put forth. You deserved better, and I wished it would've turned out better for you. I'm proud of this years team.
GO YOTES
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 17, 2015 8:47:54 GMT -6
And nccyote, you are right about the donation comment, and I have one probably played that card more than once myself. I didn't do it to draw attention to myself, I promise you I never. I did it because there are certain ramifications to each action taken, and given we are a smaller univerity there aren't a large number of donors to draw from. And as much as we all hate losing I don't like the thought of being asked to financially support a change. Again.
It isn't the amount of the donation either. Some are capable of funding a schlorship, others maybe $100 is a stretch. That's fair. But at least try and give something, or buy season tickets. If you can't due to personal finances, I get it. But I think most people on here can, and the fact they went 0-8 last year doesn't earrant turning your back on the program.
But you are correct. Fans should be able to express themselves freely on here as long as there is logic.
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Post by yodayote on Nov 17, 2015 8:50:35 GMT -6
If the coaches biggest yardstick is "wins", then the fans biggest yardstick is "donations"......so how much did you donate to the football program this season? I think that we need to stop calling out people for how much they "donate" as if making a "donation" makes you some sort of all-knowing super fan. If you are in the financial position to make contributions to the the athletic program and join the HP, thats great, by all means do so as it is a great cause and surely helps our athletic programs. However, if someone chooses not to donate, for whatever reason, that shouldn't make them any less of a fan or make there opinions any less important, and they should not be questioned about their level of "fandom" strictly because they do not "donate". If you disagree with someone's opinion, thats fine, thats what this fan board is for. But it seems like anytime certain people might have a contradictory opinion, the "donation" card is automatically played. It makes no sense to me that the amount of $ that you donate somehow is supposed to automatically justify your opinions or defunct someone elses. I'm not picking on yoda, because he is definitely not the first, and probably won't be the last to use this argument, but I just think it has no relevance in most discussions. Just my opinion, sorry for ranting. GO YOTES! BEAT THE REDBIRDS Money talks and BS walks......I never said how much anyone has to donate (going to a game would be support), but quit being a bystander complaining, and be part of the solution.
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Post by nccyote on Nov 17, 2015 8:53:05 GMT -6
I agree with CF that wins and losses are a very important factor in job security in college athletics. However, I don't think that there is a single, #1 determining factor to whether you retain a staff or clean house. There is a handful of things that need to be looked at. Win/ losses, recruiting, fundraising, player development, academics, citizenship, community engagement, overall direction and attitude of the program, etc. When you look at USD, the overall record of the Glenn era is not good at all. But you have to take into account what he took over. Glenn's 1st year was bad, 2nd was OK, last year was abysmal (but injuries played a huge role in that), and this year we have shown that USD football can compete with anybody. Aside from wins and losses, the Glenn era checks the box on all other categories that you can look at from a program standpoint. We have recruited well, we have more depth and talent, things are being done the right way on and off the field. From a PR standpoint, USD Football is as good as its ever been. Now in his 4th year, we can start to see some of the process taking shape and coming to fruition. We all knew this would not be an overnight rebuild. Next year is the big one. Can we keep climbing the mountain? Can the young talent on this team continue to develop and make the plays that we could not this year? If not, then it is time to pull the plug, but I believe in Joe Glenn, I believe in these young players, I believe in the USD fan base and administration, and I believe that we are on track to do bigs things next year and even this coming week.
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Post by nccyote on Nov 17, 2015 9:10:26 GMT -6
I may have come off the wrong way when making my comments about donations. I did not intend to call anyone out either. As a former player, I can't say enough about those who donate and join HP. The only point I was trying to make is just don't use it as an automatic comeback when certain people post, thats all. Although I may not know you personally Yoteforever, I truly respect all that you do for Coyote athletics and I think that your posts are usually right on as you tend to know the pulse of USD football especially. I do hope that you are wrong about Joe hanging it up though, I think if he can make it one more year good things will happen.
I haven't been around the board long enough to know a lot of what has been discussed in the past between posters, so maybe I was out of place in my analysis of the situation.
I do agree with YF on this though, donate or not, but never turn your back on the team. Don't say you won't go to games or participate in the program just because they aren't winning. Thats not the coyote way.
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Post by yotesfan1985 on Nov 17, 2015 9:17:35 GMT -6
I am not a fan for or against Iowa or Nebrasks. I am however a USD fan The article at the beginning of this thread was very telling in that it illustraits how destructive unrealistic expectations and changing coaches can be. Let me throw one more out for you. Do you think Iowa State wished they hadn't fired Dan McCarny? They haven't won 9 games in a season since the fired him. There are ups and downs in building a program and when you find a good coach. You should keep him if you change the coach you are only changing one part of a machine that has many moving parts. Yes changing coaches provides some optimism for fans and doners but more than 50% of the time you end up with worse records in the near term at least. Who remembers Iowa States Paul Rhodes "I'm so proud to be your coach speech? I'm guessing that faded from their fans memory since sources say he is now on the hot seat. We should keep Joe as long as he is willing. If he retires we should hire the best guy available period. He should build his staff as he sees fit. In closing if we have Wienke (spelling?) on our team. Do we win. Well maybe him and a more accurate Saeger. In other words we are about one or two players away Lets kick some but this week in Normal. And go out with a bang. FIght South Dakota
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Nov 17, 2015 9:48:44 GMT -6
First of all, no matter what your beliefs are about me, I do respect all posts on here presenting your thoughts on which way the program should go. Coyotefan, I respect your analysis at times and you can be spot on in your assessments, but what I don't respect is the fact you were calling for a change very early in the season. To me, and maybe me alone, your constant dwelling on the negative grated me the wrong way. The point I was trying to make throughout our childish banter back and forth was let the season play out before everyone wants Joe gone, or stay for that matter. Statistically no one can argue your facts on records, percentages, etc. Had 2014 not been 0-8, I'm not sure the tone would have been what it was, but the fact is we were 0-8, so let's deal with it. Cousin Eddie made a post earlier in which he explained the two positions Coyotefan and I had, and his perspective was spot on. He went on to say, in a non threatening way, that although he respected my posts, he wasn't sure he agreed given the facts. Cousin Eddie and I are friends, and I have a hunch if we lived in the same city, we would be pretty darned good friends. I am not at all disappointed in his post regarding his thoughts because he has the right to feel that way. And to me his logic iis, as usual, spot on. He gets sports. He gets the sports business. My point in defending Coach Glenn and staff was twofold. First, and no one that understands the game can t argue, is that we are better. We are relevant. That's important in building a program. Secondly, in my opinion, it was nonsense and detrimental to the overall health and status of the program to call for firing staff after the Youngstown game. Even if they went 0-8, it was nonsense. Destructive. In my opinion, here's where we are at. And this is my opinion only. I don't know anything that anyone else does, but my gut feel is Coach Glenn will resign after next weeks game. If that happens, then I don't think the staff will stay on, even with a new coach. He will have no other choice than to clean house so to speak. If you have an ounce of compassion, it is sickening to see some of the staff go, not all, but some. Wesley is the very epitome of Coyote football. He was the runner up in the national race of player of the year in D2 football. He is fine young man married to a great young lady and has family now. Wesley is exactly what every Coyote football player should try to be. Remember he was thrust into the role of OC because we didn't have the $$$ money to pay back when Ed was coaching. You can argue that point all day long but that is my gut feel. Secondly, our defense has improved big time. I'm not saying we are world beaters, but the world doesn't beat us either. Jason Petrino has done a very good job of putting togther a squad that does compete well in the MVFC. I could go on about each coach, some of which I think have done a good job, some that I don't. But there's no point, because as of some point in the near future we start over AGAIN Maybe it's time for that to happen, maybe not. But it just sickens me to my stomach that there are a very few people on here that shout at the top of their lungs about how shitty we are, and how poor of a job we've done, yet don't want to participate in finding a solution, or contributing to the cause to indeed find a fix. I will say it again, USD has had some good years, but in the overall scheme of things, have not been relevant for a long period of time. We have been relevant for short periods of time in long periods of time, but we haven't been NDSU. We have issues that need to be dealt with. One year contracts as an example. They are killers. Let me cite an example. Let's say we wanted to hire the OC at NDSU to take over the program. I don't even know who it is, I'm just using an example. We will call him Coach Joe Blow. Coach Blow gets excited about coming, and is willing to take the job, but as the AD I want to put a clause in his contract that he can't leave USD and take another job in the Valley. That's a fair hung to put in don't you think? Well, we can't do that, because we operate off one year contracts. So now Coach Blow does indeed get the program built up, and we dethrone the Bison for 2-3 years, and they fore their coach. Guess who comes calling for our coach? And we can't do crap about it. That is not an unlikely scenario. That's just one downfall to the one year contract. For Joe Glenn's sanity, he should step down. He loves this place like no other, and has given his heart and soul. Looking back, maybe he should've started with all new staff,but right now that doesn't make any difference. It is what it is. As much as I thought firing Ed was wrong, I feel that certain peoples clammoring for Joes job back in September was worse. And we've all heard certain people say they won't donate or come to games until we win. Wow. Really? And you call yourselves Coyote fans? If Joe does step down, and we hire Coach Blow, I'll be there for him and his staff. I will donate what I can, and I will continue to support Coyote sports. I'll continue going to games both at home and on the road, because at the end of the day, it isn't about the coaches, it's about the kids. The young men that play on this team are fantastic young men that will do well in life. They are respectful, and they have done everything that was asked of them. And they are better. 5-5 isn't great, but it isn't bad either. I'm proud of them, and I'm proud of many posters on here that post fair and balanced and objective posts, and not play the role of Captain Obvious. Thanks to this staff for the efforts they have put forth. You deserved better, and I wished it would've turned out better for you. I'm proud of this years team. GO YOTES I don't know why, but when I read "Coach Blow" I just started cracking up. Great comments top to bottom, YF. I really don't know where I stand on this. When I look at the current talent and the recent recruiting success, I am a little more hesitant of a change. I tend to believe that with the right guys in this class, we can take another material jump in the W column next season. However, if Joe does retire, I am inclined to say that the new guy needs to have the autonomy to pick his own staff without input from the AD. At the same time, yes, I would feel terrible for the current staff, but I am confident that they would all land on their feet quickly.
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Post by yote14 on Nov 17, 2015 10:17:02 GMT -6
I look at what has made the XDSU's successful in basketball and football? And I have to say there is a strong argument for consistency. Bohl and Stig were there through the whole process. Same for Nagy and Aaron Johnston. My NDSU men's coach's are a little foggy cant remember if Philips was there through the whole transition process or if there was a different coach when they won the SL title in 08 or 09. The areas USD has had success are where we have consistency. Men's and women's indoor/outdoor track and field and cross country.
Then look at USD and UND. constant changes at the coaching positions at the worst time. No momentum to build a program and it has translated into a slower success period after the transition.
I hope Glenn goes one more year. Simply for that consistency in recruiting, practice, etc. It also gives us one more year to build the financial side of the team and set us up to give a new head coach the money needed to recruit a staff so they do not start in a crappy place like Glenn had to. A new coach would kill current recruiting momentum for this year when we finally can out recruit SDSU and Northern Iowa in the 3 state area with the FCOA we are offering and they are not. Who knows maybe by then a Dome renovation can be announced to usher in the new coaches tenure and set them up for easier recruiting.
I'm glad the topic has evolved into an interesting conversation but wonder if Coyotefan or someone else had started this thread how long it would have taken before it was shut down with a comment from some of the main posters about its relevance to USD or that we have had this conversation before. I pick up that most of you know each other and so some of these posts are based off that. But just because Coyotefan does not give to the HP does not mean he is not a true fan. Who else would put up with the shit he takes on here non stop if he truly didn't care or was not interested in USD? I am in no way saying I agree with his actions as a fan as something that I would do. But quit saying he is not a fan. Quit telling other people they are not fans because they do not give to the howling pack. We should be encouraging conversation on here not killing topics every other day like we have so much to talk about. Let the guy have an opinion. Some people have never agreed with one thing Coyotefan has said. If we want to sit around and tell ourselves how awesome we are and avoid anything that may be uncomfortable or negative things will never be fixed. From time to time I read the NDSU and SDSU board and conversations are never shut down or discounted on there because they are negative or 4 people do not agree with one posters opinion.
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Post by yodayote on Nov 17, 2015 10:26:38 GMT -6
I look at what has made the XDSU's successful in basketball and football? And I have to say there is a strong argument for consistency. Bohl and Stig were there through the whole process. Same for Nagy and Aaron Johnston. My NDSU men's coach's are a little foggy cant remember if Philips was there through the whole transition process or if there was a different coach when they won the SL title in 08 or 09. The areas USD has had success are where we have consistency. Men's and women's indoor/outdoor track and field and cross country. Then look at USD and UND. constant changes at the coaching positions at the worst time. No momentum to build a program and it has translated into a slower success period after the transition. I hope Glenn goes one more year. Simply for that consistency in recruiting, practice, etc. It also gives us one more year to build the financial side of the team and set us up to give a new head coach the money needed to recruit a staff so they do not start in a crappy place like Glenn had to. A new coach would kill current recruiting momentum for this year when we finally can out recruit SDSU and Northern Iowa in the 3 state area with the FCOA we are offering and they are not. Who knows maybe by then a Dome renovation can be announced to usher in the new coaches tenure and set them up for easier recruiting. I'm glad the topic has evolved into an interesting conversation but wonder if Coyotefan or someone else had started this thread how long it would have taken before it was shut down with a comment from some of the main posters about its relevance to USD or that we have had this conversation before. I pick up that most of you know each other and so some of these posts are based off that. But just because Coyotefan does not give to the HP does not mean he is not a true fan. Who else would put up with the shit he takes on here non stop if he truly didn't care or was not interested in USD? I am in no way saying I agree with his actions as a fan as something that I would do. But quit saying he is not a fan. Quit telling other people they are not fans because they do not give to the howling pack. We should be encouraging conversation on here not killing topics every other day like we have so much to talk about. Let the guy have an opinion. Some people have never agreed with one thing Coyotefan has said. If we want to sit around and tell ourselves how awesome we are and avoid anything that may be uncomfortable or negative things will never be fixed. From time to time I read the NDSU and SDSU board and conversations are never shut down or discounted on there because they are negative or 4 people do not agree with one posters opinion. I never said CF couldn't have an opinion, my point was GET INVOLVED.....I am pretty sure David Herbster does not confer with this message board, he is talking to donors and fans at the game, if you would like a real drum to beat, then get involved where it counts.
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Nov 17, 2015 10:36:39 GMT -6
Here is a look at the roster/depth chart for next season, with (numbers) indicating the likely number of players we need to sign at each position:
Offense: QB: Saeger (SR), Woodward and Simmons (none graduating) (1) RB: Bouma (SR), Fredrick, Gunn, Vigneri, Kilgore, Strong, Majeres (none graduating) (1-2) FB: Potter (SR), Schuster, Lambert (1?) WR: Donovan, Van Roekel, Jackson, Rambo, Carpenter, Kramer (SR), Anderson, Worden, Saintil, Meyers (two graduating) (2) TE: Ramsey, Fenchel, Hale, Whitcomb, Storebo (one graduating) (1) OL: McLeran (done?), Banks (SR), Dagel, Meinert (SR), Johnson, Brandt, Byrd, Bianchi, Jensen, Anderson, Kennedy (three graduating) (3-4)
Defense: DE: Van Ginkel, Leohr, Mertlik (SR), Hopkins, Peguero(DT?), De Boer, JeanClaude, Kaiser, Solberg, Graves (1?) (it is possible that a couple are developmental DTs, I just don't know) DT: Bredl (SR), Maag (SR), Sutko (3 graduating - two significant starters) (3-5) LB: O'Farrell (SR), Coker, Wessel (SR), Litrenta, Greenfield, Hill, Arntz, Johnson (four graduating - 3 significant starters) (4-6) S: Graham (SR), Andy Gray, Fischer, Alex Gray, Colpitts, Moreland (SR) (2-3) DB: Parkinson, Jiles, Williamson, Harris, W. Armstead (SR), Warner (SR), Juhl (SR), I. Armstead, Young, Resseguie, Moses (two significant graduates) (3-5)
Special Teams: K/P: Bergner (SR), James (1) LS: Godsey (1?)
(this was a quick patchwork, I am sure I missed some details or guys)
Total class size: 21-28 (Only 16 graduating? All of which look to be scholarship guys). That leaves 16 scholarships to land about 18-19 essential players, IMO. I think recruiting a QB every class is a best practice. Likewise with RB. I also tend to believe that you can't have enough difference makers, special players, "It" guys, athletes - usually KR, PR, WR, and DL.
The major question marks next year, IMO, are DT, LB, CB and to a certain degree every year, OL. On paper we should be stacked on offense - veteran QB, highly touted RS-F QB, stacked backfield, a WR corp filled with athletes and some size, and some essential cornerstones to the OL. On defense our pass rush should be there, but I am scared to death about the loss of guys like Iddings, Jacobs, Lage, Tyler and Lilly. Hopefully some guys step up.
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Post by nccyote on Nov 17, 2015 11:22:02 GMT -6
I agree with a lot of people here that if Joe does decide to step down, we need to open the position up to a national search and probably hire some new blood. I respect the hell out of this staff and think that hey have done a pretty damn good job considering the many factors that are against them. That said, I don't think any of this current staff are qualified or ready to be promoted from within to be the next head coach. If the next guy wants to keep a couple of the coaches form this staff without any pressure from administration, then so be it, but I think you handcuff the next HC if you request that he keep somebody.
This staff is full of quality young coaches that i am sure will land on their feet if this situation arises, but this is the unfortunate nature of this business. I for one am hoping that Joe will stay, but then again, even if he does stay and we do turn it around next year and even make the playoffs, an he decides to ride off in the sunset after next year, then where do we turn?
I guess there is no reason to speculate until after this weekend and then we find out what will happen.
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 17, 2015 12:21:12 GMT -6
Heres the deal im proposing to the board. I'm extending an olive branch to Coytefan to make peace and move forward with discussions about moving forward and looking towards the future of Coyote football. Let's debate, discuss, and throw it all out there in the name of improving where we are at? In return, no more dumpster fire comments, or I played and you didn't, or I give and you don't. Fair?
Assume my gut feeling is right, and Joe resigns. Here's the discussion points in my opinion:
1.) Do you look for a successful head coach at an already established FCS school and steal them? 2.) Do you look for a successful D2 coach, or even highly successful D3 coach that would be eager to take the job? 3.) Do you look for a coordinator at an FBS school that would jump to become head coach? 4.) Do you look for a coordinator say in the MVFC that is successful and wants a head job? Or maybe a coordinator with ties to the Midwest? 5.) Do you look at someone from current staff?
In other words, what opinion does everyone have on what type of coach do you have in mind as being the perfect fit?
Next question:
Are you willing to bring someone in that may bring some charecteristics we aren't used to in order to win? I'm not saying drawing NCAA penalties, I'm just suggesting some athletes that can win games but maybe have charecter issues? In other words, are you willing to win at all costs short of violations?
I'm tired of fighting, I want to fix this thing. A such as I want the current staff to have one more year, I don't think its gonna happen. The chalkboard is being wiped clean.
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