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Post by Yotes on Dec 8, 2015 14:38:48 GMT -6
Football Scoop has stated Kalen DeBoer of EMU and Bob Nielsen of WIU are interviewing for the USD job. Two good candidates in my opinion.
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Post by nccyote on Dec 8, 2015 15:14:21 GMT -6
Finally some info, i like those 2, but admit I would personally be more excited about Nielson than DeBoer. I would hope to have at least 2-3 more candidates in to vermillion for in-person interviews but I'm just on a message board and not an AD.
If these are true, and footballscoop is usually a pretty credible source in all things concerning coaching positions, this would be a very good start for the U in picking a new HC.
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Post by coyote61 on Dec 8, 2015 15:14:31 GMT -6
To me DeBoer is a slam dunk for this program.
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Dec 8, 2015 15:19:28 GMT -6
I would be happy with either coach.
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Dec 8, 2015 15:23:14 GMT -6
I trust Herbster and will support his decision, but in my opinion Nielson is the superior candidate. At the end of the day, as stated above, they are both good candidates to have.
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Post by Yote 53 on Dec 8, 2015 15:24:23 GMT -6
I'm with Cuz on this one.
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Post by Yotes on Dec 8, 2015 15:47:01 GMT -6
I'm also on board with Nielsen being the better of the two. Nielsen is my favorite of all the realistic candidates posed so far and would be a fantastic hire.
DeBoer is certainly a good candidate too. I think Stugart is out if DeBoer is applying.
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Post by SagatagSam on Dec 8, 2015 15:47:01 GMT -6
Football Scoop has stated Kalen DeBoer of EMU and Bob Nielsen of WIU are interviewing for the USD job. Two good candidates in my opinion. I understand the logic behind DeBoer (previous S.D. ties at USF and he would be moving from a coordinator to HC), but I do not get why USD would be a draw for Nielsen. He's a HC at a school that reached the second ground of the FCS playoffs, and he would be going to a conference rival. I'm new to the MVFC, so is Western Illinois that terrible of a place that you would want to leave? |
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Post by Yotes on Dec 8, 2015 15:49:35 GMT -6
Football Scoop has stated Kalen DeBoer of EMU and Bob Nielsen of WIU are interviewing for the USD job. Two good candidates in my opinion. I understand the logic behind DeBoer (previous S.D. ties at USF and he would be moving from a coordinator to HC), but I do not get why USD would be a draw for Nielsen. He's a HC at a school that reached the second ground of the FCS playoffs, and he would be going to a conference rival. I'm new to the MVFC, so is Western Illinois that terrible of a place that you would want to leave? I don't think WIU has any room to go higher, they are at their peak. If Joe Glenn weren't leaving the program in such good shape then Nielsen probably wouldn't be interested, could be an easy opportunity to get credit for another MVFC turnaround and really launch him to a higher level. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2015 15:49:53 GMT -6
Football Scoop has stated Kalen DeBoer of EMU and Bob Nielsen of WIU are interviewing for the USD job. Two good candidates in my opinion. I understand the logic behind DeBoer (previous S.D. ties at USF and he would be moving from a coordinator to HC), but I do not get why USD would be a draw for Nielsen. He's a HC at a school that reached the second ground of the FCS playoffs, and he would be going to a conference rival. I'm new to the MVFC, so is Western Illinois that terrible of a place that you would want to leave? Yes, it is. And Illinois, in general, has major budget issues. |
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Post by SagatagSam on Dec 8, 2015 15:58:31 GMT -6
I'll take your word for WIU hitting a glass ceiling. His desire to leave totally makes sense if its true.
My concern with Neilson is his age--56--which is not terribly old. But, he looks more like a guy nearing the end of his career rather than hitting his peak. If we want to build a program with some staying power, I'd like to do it with a coach that is going to be around more then 5-8 years.
(Unless, of course, he has some John Gagliardi blood in him and he plans on coaching into his 80s)
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Post by Yote 53 on Dec 8, 2015 16:08:02 GMT -6
Looking at it from that perspective I would like a Nielsen hiring even more. Given his age he may be looking at USD as a last stop before retirement, maybe be here for 10 years then stroll into retirement. You know this is just a stop along the way in DeBoer's career, not that there is anything wrong with that since we are an FCS program after all. I would not anticipate any coach we hire having the longevity of a Coach Stig. His lengthy stint at SDSU is abnormal for an FCS school. I don't see them keeping his successor around near as along.
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Post by imacoyote on Dec 8, 2015 16:08:48 GMT -6
I'll take your word for WIU hitting a glass ceiling. His desire to leave totally makes sense if its true. My concern with Neilson is his age--56--which is not terribly old. But, he looks more like a guy nearing the end of his career rather than hitting his peak. If we want to build a program with some staying power, I'd like to do it with a coach that is going to be around more then 5-8 years. (Unless, of course, he has some John Gagliardi blood in him and he plans on coaching into his 80s) Agree with this, you've got to love his resume and experience with building a program but would prefer Deboer first because he's absolutely qualified and the age factor does matter. I'm still holding out hope that Caruso gets a look but both of these candidates would bring more buzz. |
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Post by nccyote on Dec 8, 2015 16:11:08 GMT -6
I'll take your word for WIU hitting a glass ceiling. His desire to leave totally makes sense if its true. My concern with Neilson is his age--56--which is not terribly old. But, he looks more like a guy nearing the end of his career rather than hitting his peak. If we want to build a program with some staying power, I'd like to do it with a coach that is going to be around more then 5-8 years. (Unless, of course, he has some John Gagliardi blood in him and he plans on coaching into his 80s) Just saw a quote from the Western Kentucky AD last week that kind of summed up what you are talking about, I think. WKU has been a stepping stone for a lot of coaches lately and the AD's attitude, and I'm paraphrasing here, was "If somebody isn't trying to lure your guys away every 3-5 years at this level, then somethings not right". If Neilson has aspirations of making it to an FBS program, USD would be a more likely stepping stone than WIU with there budget mess. At USD, if somebody isn't trying to steal your football coach after 5 years, then it probably wasn't a successful hire anyway according to the WKU AD. If the basketball teams keep winning, we will have to deal with this soon. |
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Post by Yote 53 on Dec 8, 2015 16:25:25 GMT -6
My thoughts exactly. A good hire will mean someone will be sniffing around trying to lure him away. My point is that, at age 56, after 5 years when someone else does come sniffing around, somebody who is age 61 might be satisfied with where they are at and pass on another rebuild and ride out what they currently have until retirement a few years down the road.
Just thinking of the math and that there is more to life than money. But definitely, if you hire a successful coach somebody is going to come sniffing around.
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