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Post by Coyote Fan on Apr 2, 2016 17:27:40 GMT -6
Just for the record, SDSU had 3900 for their game against Indiana in round 4. We had far more. They had 3250 in round 3. We had far more. They never played at home in round 5 but they lost on the road. Having 7000-7500 at our game obliterated anything they've done. It goes to show it can be done. Wrong again. Jacks. Yotes First round - 1812. 1960 Round of 16- 3320. 2433 Round of 8- 3792. 2749 As far as your crowd of 7000, how many free tickets are giving away? Talk about Butt Hurt. Who cares if there were free tickets given away because butts in the seats are butts in the seats. The Jacks will never top that attendance number for today because their arena doesn't hold that many and even after they remodel Frost I still don't know if they will have that kind of a capacity. Since going D1 this would have to be considered the best accomplishment of any of the sports that matter in the State of South Dakota. When comparing the Jacks run in 2014 to this year both teams had to play one game away from home. The Coyotes won their's and the Jacks's lost their's. Fair and square. The Coyotes are generally the better road team IMO. If the Jacks don't have a major home court advantage their accomplishments are pretty pedestrian.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 21:28:10 GMT -6
So CF are you saying the WNIT is better than winning games in NCAA tournament? You can also stop bringing up home court advantage in Sioux Falls for SDSU. USD just showed what kind of attendance they can get. Show up to Sioux Falls and quit your bitching. USD played at home while SDSU had to play at UTEP in front of 12k+ in their WNIT run. The stars aligned and USD took advantage. Congrats on the 2nd tier tournament championship.
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Post by Yotes on Apr 2, 2016 21:35:50 GMT -6
So CF are you saying the WNIT is better than winning games in NCAA tournament? You can also stop bringing up home court advantage in Sioux Falls for SDSU. USD just showed what kind of attendance they can get. Show up to Sioux Falls and quit your bitching. USD played at home while SDSU had to play at UTEP in front of 12k+ in their WNIT run. The stars aligned and USD took advantage. Congrats on the 2nd tier tournament championship. Butt hurt.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 21:43:27 GMT -6
So CF are you saying the WNIT is better than winning games in NCAA tournament? You can also stop bringing up home court advantage in Sioux Falls for SDSU. USD just showed what kind of attendance they can get. Show up to Sioux Falls and quit your bitching. USD played at home while SDSU had to play at UTEP in front of 12k+ in their WNIT run. The stars aligned and USD took advantage. Congrats on the 2nd tier tournament championship. Butt hurt Butt hurt that SDSU didn't make the WNIT and win it? Nope. I'll take the 7 NCAA Tournament appearances and the 2 wins. It's a nice consolation prize for not making it. I'll give you that.
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Post by yoteforever on Apr 2, 2016 21:51:35 GMT -6
So CF are you saying the WNIT is better than winning games in NCAA tournament? You can also stop bringing up home court advantage in Sioux Falls for SDSU. USD just showed what kind of attendance they can get. Show up to Sioux Falls and quit your bitching. USD played at home while SDSU had to play at UTEP in front of 12k+ in their WNIT run. The stars aligned and USD took advantage. Congrats on the 2nd tier tournament championship. One thing that never changes about your fan base is your constant need to put yourself as superior to USD in absolutely everything. If we beat you, there's always an excuse. If we do something that is unparalleled you find ways to demean it. Your comment about 2nd tier tournament is uncalled for. It's small in your part. As your fans have told me several times, just go to your own fan board and kiss each other's rear ends. This girls team is deserving of our admiration. They have earned it. The fact your team upset them in SF in absolutely no way takes away today's accomplishments. They did something your team has never done and that's win a tournament. Argue all you want, but if it had been SDSU playing USD instead of Oregon that night, you would've been beaten like a rented mule. Very few teams in this country could have beat us that night. Regarding your excuse as to why you lost to UTEP, that's pitiful. I believe we went into Brookings this year in front of a large and obnoxious crowd and got the W. Big deal. We will do it again. As far as the stars aligning right, nice try. That's the advantage of having a University with a business school. We make good business decisions. Stars had nothing to do with it, dollars did. That's a fact. Lastly, we have a president committed to making our school the best in every facet. No lip service with President Abbott, action is his style. In closing, as disgusting as it was to get beat by an inferior team in SF, I could make a very compelling argument our run through the NIT did more to enhance our program and university than an early exit in the NCAA's. It gave us two more weeks of practice and got some younger players some very valuable experience and exposure. You should be proud how your team did as we are, just don't come in here and demean our team on this special day. You upset us for the tourney title...congrats. We won the league. Playing everybody twice defines who really is the best team over the long haul. Your problem is no one has given you a run for your money...till now. Get used to it. Warning: you smack in a non smack thread again, you're done.
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Post by Yotes on Apr 2, 2016 23:59:42 GMT -6
Butt hurt that SDSU didn't make the WNIT and win it? Nope. I'll take the 7 NCAA Tournament appearances and the 2 wins. It's a nice consolation prize for not making it. I'll give you that. Butt. Hurt.
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Post by Iceman on Apr 3, 2016 0:37:39 GMT -6
So CF are you saying the WNIT is better than winning games in NCAA tournament? You can also stop bringing up home court advantage in Sioux Falls for SDSU. USD just showed what kind of attendance they can get. Show up to Sioux Falls and quit your bitching. USD played at home while SDSU had to play at UTEP in front of 12k+ in their WNIT run. The stars aligned and USD took advantage. Congrats on the 2nd tier tournament championship. Yeah yeah you guys had to play at UTEP in front of 12k. Poor guys. We feel bad. Well we just let Oregon do that for us and then beat them by 34 points. Yep it was on our home court too. Like my high school wrestling coach told me once, "it's time to put up or shut up." Thank you president Abbott and AD Herbster for "putting up" the money to be able to host. It was a blast! Maybe your administration should have put up the money that year so you could have hosted. Thanks for the congratulations on our "2nd tier" CHAMPIONSHIP. Now go back to the bunny board and cry around some more.
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Post by usdguy99 on Apr 3, 2016 13:20:49 GMT -6
I guess maybe I'm too young to know why...most, if not all, USD, Augie, USF, et al. fans will cheer for SDSU if they are representing our state...but the reverse is not true. I'm not saying this is all state college fans, but it sure seems like the large majority. If it had been the bunnies winning the NIT I'm guessing we would be happy that they represented our state and our conference well in winning the championship. Just like I said in my other post...if NDSU softball players realize this is good for our conference, why can't the average SDSU fan?
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Post by Coyote Fan on Apr 3, 2016 13:48:36 GMT -6
I guess maybe I'm too young to know why...most, if not all, USD, Augie, USF, et al. fans will cheer for SDSU if they are representing our state...but the reverse is not true. I'm not saying this is all state college fans, but it sure seems like the large majority. If it had been the bunnies winning the NIT I'm guessing we would be happy that they represented our state and our conference well in winning the championship. Just like I said in my other post...if NDSU softball players realize this is good for our conference, why can't the average SDSU fan? SDSU fans have been saying that having USD be good is good for the Summit. I would have to say that SDSU fans probably didn't envision USD being this good. I would think some are maybe backtracking on that thought. It's only good for them if USD doesn't tap into their accomplishments and having USD win the WNIT is probably better than any accomplishment a SDSU team has had since moving to D1. Their basketball teams have been to the NCAA's and their football team has been to the second round of the playoffs but official NCAA playoffs or not winning the WNIT (although secondary goal) would have to be considered a better accomplishment than anything they have done. I guess the Coyotes didn't accomplish the feat of playing Notre Dame at home and giving them a good game so maybe winning the WNIT pales in comparison to that. If USD gets their football program and mens basketball program to a higer level and start to equal of upstage what SDSU has done than I would probably guess that a lot more antimosity towards USD will come from up north.
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Post by jackjd on Apr 3, 2016 14:16:17 GMT -6
I guess maybe I'm too young to know why...most, if not all, USD, Augie, USF, et al. fans will cheer for SDSU if they are representing our state...but the reverse is not true. I'm not saying this is all state college fans, but it sure seems like the large majority. If it had been the bunnies winning the NIT I'm guessing we would be happy that they represented our state and our conference well in winning the championship. Just like I said in my other post...if NDSU softball players realize this is good for our conference, why can't the average SDSU fan? I haven't been on this board for a lot of weeks but heard about some of the comments being made. The above comment is not true (and without huge expense, cannot be either proved or disproved). I have degrees from both SDSU and USD and have had children graduate from SDSU and from USD. What you perceive, usdguy99, is wrong. You claim your perception may be due to your youth. As you put on a few years, try to resist judging an entire group of people by the actions or words of a few. Same thing is true with SDSU sports fans who post on message boards. I've had to remind some that all USD fans should not be judged by the writings of a select few on this board. One other comment. A few USD posters on this board became upset when an opinion piece was written in the Mitchell Daily Republic when USD's women's team went to the NCAA Tourney and SDSU's women made it to the final four in the WNIT. It's interesting to go back and read that piece, only substituting USD for SDSU and vice versa. Based on some comments I've read by some USD posters and some SDSU posters after USD's accomplishment in winning the WNIT,...well, people (irrespective of the fan base) can be funny and they certainly reserve the right to change their positions. USD beat a very good FGCU team yesterday. I'm from Watertown and I watched Tia Hemiller in high school...great to see the success Tia and her teammates have achieved.
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Post by coyote61 on Apr 3, 2016 14:57:54 GMT -6
So let's compare apples to apples. It looks like our loss to Washington by 13 at home( we were leading at halftime) is now quite a bit more impressive than losing to a subpar( by there own admission) Notre Dame team by 11 points on their own floor.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 18:10:21 GMT -6
I guess maybe I'm too young to know why...most, if not all, USD, Augie, USF, et al. fans will cheer for SDSU if they are representing our state...but the reverse is not true. I'm not saying this is all state college fans, but it sure seems like the large majority. If it had been the bunnies winning the NIT I'm guessing we would be happy that they represented our state and our conference well in winning the championship. Just like I said in my other post...if NDSU softball players realize this is good for our conference, why can't the average SDSU fan? SDSU fans have been saying that having USD be good is good for the Summit. I would have to say that SDSU fans probably didn't envision USD being this good. I would think some are maybe backtracking on that thought. It's only good for them if USD doesn't tap into their accomplishments and having USD win the WNIT is probably better than any accomplishment a SDSU team has had since moving to D1. Their basketball teams have been to the NCAA's and their football team has been to the second round of the playoffs but official NCAA playoffs or not winning the WNIT (although secondary goal) would have to be considered a better accomplishment than anything they have done. I guess the Coyotes didn't accomplish the feat of playing Notre Dame at home and giving them a good game so maybe winning the WNIT pales in comparison to that. If USD gets their football program and mens basketball program to a higer level and start to equal of upstage what SDSU has done than I would probably guess that a lot more antimosity towards USD will come from up north. Are you just looking to get reactions out of people or what? There was some good teams in the Summit before USD joined. The ORU women won back-to-back regular season championships in 2009-2010 and 2010-2011. They didn't win the SLT though just like the Yotes. I want the Summit League to become a 2 bid league just like everyone else. I believe SDSU has won the regular season championship 5 times since going D1. ORU won it twice as I stated earlier and now USD has won it twice. This isn't a new thing to SDSU fans. It's not like SDSU is getting worse. ORU made SDSU raise their game just like USD has made the Jacks up their game the past 2 years. ORU dropped off but looks like they are starting to get back on track. USD will more than likely take a step back next year. The question is if USD can sustain the success they have had. No other team in the Summit has except for SDSU. The thing I don't like is that you are down playing winning games in the NCAA tournament and saying winning the WNIT is better. That is complete asinine imo. Go ask coaches and players in what they want they would rather do? Winning games in the NCAA Tournament is better than wining the WNIT. Winning the WNIT is a consolation prize for not making the big dance. SDSU made the WNIT 3 times. 2 of those team was when they were still ineligible for the NCAA's due to the transition rules. The other time was when a 7-7 USD team beat them in the semis of the SLT. Out of those WNIT appearances the Jacks have an Elite 8 appearance, a 1st round loss, and a Final 4 appearance. The 7 NCAA appearances (along with the 2 NCAA tourney wins) have done more for the program than the WNIT trips. I don't know why you think a WNIT championship is better than NCAA tourney wins. All I can say is that it is A LOT harder to win games in the NCAA's than in the WNIT. Maybe you can explain to me why winning the WNIT is better than winning a game in the NCAA tournament?
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Post by Coyote Fan on Apr 3, 2016 19:54:36 GMT -6
I never said going to the WNIT was better than going to the NCAA tournament but it is my opinion that winning the WNIT is a better accomplishment than winning one game in the NCAA tourney. Many of the WNIT teams are worthy of the tournament anyway. Probably a good 20 of them are. Despite the Jacks getting into the NCAA's the Coyotes had the better season. They won 2 out of 3 from the Jacks and won 6 straight games to end the season vs very good teams.
It's foolish to ever want to have to accept a consolation prize but one can always look at it like a double elimination tourney. The Coyotes lost the first game but ran the table the rest of the way. I would say in general winning the WNIT is probably of similar accomplishment to getting to the sweet 16 or even the elite 8 at the regular tourney.
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Post by yotefan90 on Apr 3, 2016 20:11:09 GMT -6
I would say in general winning the WNIT is probably of similar accomplishment to getting to the sweet 16 or even the elite 8 at the regular tourney. I respectfully disagree. I would bet most of my money that the ladies that just won the WNIT would agree with me as well.
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Apr 3, 2016 20:26:19 GMT -6
I will never say that the WNIT is a better tournament or a better accomplishment than the NCAA tourney. The thing that was better about the WNIT outcome is that it allowed USD to host all of the games at home. Making the final and playing the last game ever at the Dome was perfect timing. I felt it got some of our fans to come out who maybe had been the ones who always had something better to do, or maybe did not care about the sports programs. The best part was just meeting all of the other fans and seeing excitement for the University. Not comparing USD and SDSU's season, I think that this outcome was quite possibly better for USD than a 1st or second round loss on the road in the NCAAs for this season. I hope it got some more fans excited for the future of WBB and all other programs. It will be fun to say I got to see the last Bball game in the Dome and it was a win for a trophy. I hope next year the team can win the SLT and make the NCAAs (maybe a 2-bid Summit now)? The girls and the fan base ran with the opportunity that they were presented and there is nothing wrong with that at all.
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