obc
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Post by obc on Jul 24, 2017 14:12:43 GMT -6
This is just a reflection of USD's W/L record the first five years in the MVFC. USD has the least conference wins over that stretch - 9 conference wins total.
I think USD will have some players that emerge as All-MVFC level this season that are not currently on the radar. If USD jumps up to 4-5 conference wins, I would imagine there will be some recognition that will occur. Respect needs to be earned this year.
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Post by sportschic on Jul 24, 2017 16:29:45 GMT -6
obc I think you are on to something. I do believe this is the year we will earn respect!
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Post by Coyote Fan on Jul 24, 2017 18:14:09 GMT -6
"South Dakota - 3 (0); South Dakota State - 10 (9)" This really is a amazing to me. Almost half of SDSU's starters are considered pre-season 1st team all conference. USD has zero. The pre-season hype for SDSU is off the charts, it's going to be awesome to watch them choke it this season. I guess anything less than an SDSU championship season should be considered a failure, and a finish out of the cellar should be considered a success for USD. The level of disrespect for USD football is really incredible to me. I see it all the time on these message boards but it appears it is now institutionalized into the media. I could almost understand it if we were going through winless seasons, but by most accounts Nielson is building a solid program and the talent level has increased. I guess not though. Oh well. We can say all we want about Nielson and what some believe was supposed to be building before that but the fact remains that last years team went 4-7 and 4-7 is 4-7 any way you slice it. The program has finished below .500 every year in the Valley. The history of the Coyotes for decades now is to either be non competitive or be competitive on the field but still manage to lose most of their close games. I am excited about the program but my expectations are a little more guarded then most here. Going into this season there are many things to be excited about, mostly on offense but there are also concerns as well such as the defense and the fact that the Coyotes finished 0-4 again last year. The Coyotes seemingly have supposed to improved from one season to the next and as far as the record goes that has yet to happen. I do think this year should be the best chance for that to actually become reality but I am not putting any kind of a cart before the horse. One stat the really slaps the Coyotes in the face is that they are 1-19 over their last 4 games of the season since they entered the Valley. The team for whatever reason falls apart at the end of the season. Same thing happened under Nielson. This is one alarming trend that needs to change soon and hopefully this year it will. At this point in time the Coyotes don't really deserve respect when it comes to the pre season poll and I am not talking about the all conference teams. I still think the Yotes should have gotten at least one guy on the team. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Jul 24, 2017 18:23:27 GMT -6
"South Dakota - 3 (0); South Dakota State - 10 (9)" This really is a amazing to me. Almost half of SDSU's starters are considered pre-season 1st team all conference. USD has zero. The pre-season hype for SDSU is off the charts, it's going to be awesome to watch them choke it this season. I guess anything less than an SDSU championship season should be considered a failure, and a finish out of the cellar should be considered a success for USD. The level of disrespect for USD football is really incredible to me. I see it all the time on these message boards but it appears it is now institutionalized into the media. I could almost understand it if we were going through winless seasons, but by most accounts Nielson is building a solid program and the talent level has increased. I guess not though. Oh well. Admittedly, I don't follow USD football closely enough to know, but at what position(s) do you feel USD was slighted a first-team all conference selection? Who should have made the team, instead of the selected player, who didn't? (BTW, I'm asking in all honesty - no smack). Streveler over Christian at quarterback (and I may be in the minority but Steveler has to be accounted for more for his dual threat) Crawford Jr over Spencer Schnell from Illinois State I don't base my picks on last year but what I expect this year. I know Crawford is a highly touted recruit and that is all he is at this point but I am predicting a huge year out of him. If he is the kind of receiver that requires a double team and Streveler requires a shadow there won't be enough defenders left over to cover the rest of the guys. I have tempered my expectations but I think we are gonna love to watch Crawford do his thing. |
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Post by easmus on Jul 24, 2017 19:19:57 GMT -6
Crawford may well pan out, and he might not even play this season... but no one is putting a true freshman on a preseason poll.
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Post by Yote 53 on Jul 24, 2017 19:35:10 GMT -6
My point is even Mo State and ISUb have picks. Sure SDSU will have more but USD has zero?
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Post by jackrabbit1979 on Jul 24, 2017 20:24:41 GMT -6
My point is even Mo State and ISUb have picks. Sure SDSU will have more but USD has zero? I understand to a point, and yet...it's not grade school. Everyone doesn't get a ribbon just because. Who do you think should be on the team from USD, ahead of someone who was actually selected? And I'm sorry, but Coyote Fans opinions above are crazy. A true freshman who hasn't played a game in the Valley should be named pre-season all conference?!? And I don't doubt that Streveler is talented, but after last season's stats there was no way another QB besides Christion was getting first team. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Jul 24, 2017 20:39:18 GMT -6
My point is even Mo State and ISUb have picks. Sure SDSU will have more but USD has zero? I understand to a point, and yet...it's not grade school. Everyone doesn't get a ribbon just because. Who do you think should be on the team from USD, ahead of someone who was actually selected? And I'm sorry, but Coyote Fans opinions above are crazy. A true freshman who hasn't played a game in the Valley should be named pre-season all conference?!? And I don't doubt that Streveler is talented, but after last season's stats there was no way another QB besides Christion was getting first team. Why not go out on a limb a bit. Just because everyone falls in with the status quo picks doesn't mean people should be called crazy for making a different pick. No one picked Mooney as a pre season Summit League pick but he was the post season pick. Like I said I don't base those picks on what they did last year. Obviously last year matters but situations change. |
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Post by usdtator on Jul 24, 2017 21:22:04 GMT -6
Just to change things up a bit... Does anyone have any word on what happened to Marchalo Judge. It was mentioned on a post awhile back that he is no longer on the roster...
That is concerning considering how much he played last year and that he had made some big plays when he was in the game (ie. forced fumble in Illinois St game on break away play). I expected big things out of him this year.
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Post by yotebewithyou on Jul 24, 2017 21:47:18 GMT -6
Just to change things up a bit... Does anyone have any word on what happened to Marchalo Judge. It was mentioned on a post awhile back that he is no longer on the roster... That is concerning considering how much he played last year and that he had made some big plays when he was in the game (ie. forced fumble in Illinois St game on break away play). I expected big things out of him this year. Just googled his name and it looks like he got in some trouble with weed on multiple occasions |
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Post by yoteforever on Jul 24, 2017 22:36:52 GMT -6
I can't think of one. I'm not upset by the preseason picks. Hard to make a case for much of anyone other than those who made honorable mention, other than maybe Brandt Van Roekel. But with his injury last season he wasn't able to fill the stats like you need to to make the cut. I agree. Make the case on the field. |
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Post by elcoyote on Jul 24, 2017 23:28:05 GMT -6
My point is even Mo State and ISUb have picks. Sure SDSU will have more but USD has zero? I understand to a point, and yet...it's not grade school. Everyone doesn't get a ribbon just because. Who do you think should be on the team from USD, ahead of someone who was actually selected? And I'm sorry, but Coyote Fans opinions above are crazy. A true freshman who hasn't played a game in the Valley should be named pre-season all conference?!? And I don't doubt that Streveler is talented, but after last season's stats there was no way another QB besides Christion was getting first team. How many Valley quarterbacks put up the stats Christion did last year if they got to throw to the receivers he got to throw to. He doesn't make the offense , the offense makes him. Your other guy would have done just as well last year given the opportunity. |
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Post by yotebewithyou on Jul 24, 2017 23:35:34 GMT -6
Christion is a great quarterback. He ran for 80ish yards against us including a dagger TD. He's a dual threat too.
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91jack
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Post by 91jack on Jul 25, 2017 8:00:12 GMT -6
Christion is a great quarterback. He ran for 80ish yards against us including a dagger TD. He's a dual threat too. I think Christian is inconsistent. He ran for 140+ yards against NDSU, 80 yards against USD and around 60 yards against Youngstown State. The others games he ran for less than 40 yards. SDSU only scored 10 points in each of their playoff games last year. He threw for less than 200 yards and had minus yards (sacks) rushing in both of those games. He only threw the ball 17 times against NDSU so I didn't expect earth shattering numbers but since he was the conference player of the year, why not throw the ball more (with Dallas and Jake)? I know he played ball in Sioux Falls but he really struggled with accuracy against Villanova. Was it their defense, his hands got cold or what? His freshman year, he started 8 games and ran for -19, 5, 7, 54, 61, 65, 75 and 99 yards. He was a more consistent threat to run that year. He did get banged up so maybe they pulled the reigns back on him last year. If I had Lujan as a backup last year, I let Christian run because that is a strength of his and you have a more than capable backup. The player that I wondered about from SDSU on the all conference preseason team was their running back. He did have 700+ yards rushing and 300+ yards receiving but I don't think he is a stud. We normally use 2 or 3 running back every game. I guess if I am comparing him to Zenner, he will come up way short. I don't know what other teams have for RB's so that might factor in, too. There are some SDSU fans that think Christian is the best thing since sliced bread and there are others that aren't so sure. I think he is a good QB but his running and receivers make him look great. I hope he gets some more weapons this year because next season his two All Americans will be gone and he will still have to carry SDSU. |
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Post by 91jack on Jul 25, 2017 8:00:45 GMT -6
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