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Post by thebacksackdad on Nov 13, 2017 17:07:25 GMT -6
SIU put how many up on Illinois State? Aberrations can happen. The defense had been solid before last week. Statistically speaking it wasn’t that much of an aberration. In conference play the two times your defense gave up less than 28 points were winless Indiana St and an SIU team who lost their QB and best offensive threat. Your defense has had five games in conference where they gave up over 28 points. I’ll compare them to the SDSU defense since it’s relevant to this week and nobody (including me) considers the SDSU defense to be very good. Probably mediocre at best. Vs ranked competition: Vs YSU: SDSU 19 USD 28 Vs WIU: SDSU 24 USD 33 Vs UNI: SDSU 38 USD 34 Vs ISUr: SDSU 24 USD 37 Vs NDSU: SDSU 21 USD 49 Basically long story short vs good competition the USD defense tends to give up pretty big chunks of points, even before a gaggle of your DBs went out. Having so many DBs out isn’t a great thing to have against our offense indoors. Short of 1 game, our games you cited were on the road. Short of 1 game, your games you cited where at your house. Big difference. In fact, also a great seeding argument. Common game would be WIU... which ill consider an anomaly. |
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Nov 13, 2017 18:00:25 GMT -6
Honestly I am hardly ever shocked by games in the MVFC outside of ISUb this year. SDSU will be favored as they should, but USD has the talent to win. Its crazy watching a team week to week look so up and down. We were up big vs WIU and let them back into it. ISUr we fought but wasn't enough. SIU took care of business.
UNI should have been a win (still pissed out that fumble). Got waxed by the Bison. The Bison seemed to have a 5 yard hole to run through all day. When they used play action they hit on some nicely designed crossing routes on rollouts to the tight end (could be disastrous vs Goedert. I think it will be important to keep defensive coverage random and try to force a turnover. I think if we can score TD's instead of FG's in the redzone and win the turnover battle there is a good shot at victory. No reason to hold back on Strev, If we want the playoffs and a possible Seed, it needs to be proven. SHould be a good one and I look forward to the day and having fun with friends cheering for both teams.
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Post by thumper76 on Nov 13, 2017 18:11:03 GMT -6
it's actually rather easy with the coyote D. they are in the dome and that will make a big difference. Much bigger than it really should. Maybe the Coyotes are just mentally beat down and have lost confidence. Ya never know but the Coyotes will most likely to have their A game on saturday. They cant play their D or F game because they left that in Fargo. You have to look at who you played at home too. A bad SIU offense (after they lost their qb they are garbage), a really bad ISUb, a really bad UND. Hell SDSU held YSU to 19 at YSU when you guys gave up 30+ at the dome. And that’s the only team with an offensive pulse you played in the dome. In all reality does anyone think that this is going to be a defensive battle? The scoreboard could look like the national deficit counter. Plausible. I think it might surprise some people though. It somewhat depends. If I’m USD I do my damndest to run Streveler to make the Jacks commit to stopping the run and try to hit some long passes. SDSU has faced mobile QBs two weeks in a row now and did OK. Streveler is another animal entirely however. He will get his yards. Short of 1 game, our games you cited were on the road. Short of 1 game, your games you cited where at your house. Big difference. In fact, also a great seeding argument. Common game would be WIU... which ill consider an anomaly. Sure. However your home games were against the bottom of the barrel as well. I’m well aware that the Dome is and advantage for you guys, but it’s not as massive as your home and away games make it seem. SIU is awful without their qb, so that’s not that impressive of a performance. ISUb is a dumpster fire, and the only team with an offensive pulse put up 30+ on you at the dome. |
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Nov 13, 2017 18:21:20 GMT -6
Valid points thumper. The thing that makes me more confident and doesn't really mean a whole lot is how we have played the Jacks close the last two times in the dome when we weren't as good of a team. I think it may be another exciting game.
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Post by kiyoat on Nov 13, 2017 18:34:21 GMT -6
The way I see it, this team EARNED the right to have their playoff fate in their own hands. Win and you're in. All of this team's goals are still on the table. I'm proud of this team. They've set the table, now it's time to EAT!
Go Yotes!
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Nov 13, 2017 19:05:45 GMT -6
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Post by easmus on Nov 13, 2017 19:06:37 GMT -6
Any of the scores against State turnovers? 14 of those points for unI probably shouldn’t count against our D.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 13, 2017 19:26:37 GMT -6
Short of 1 game, our games you cited were on the road. Short of 1 game, your games you cited where at your house. Big difference. In fact, also a great seeding argument. Common game would be WIU... which ill consider an anomaly. Sure. However your home games were against the bottom of the barrel as well. I’m well aware that the Dome is and advantage for you guys, but it’s not as massive as your home and away games make it seem. SIU is awful without their qb, so that’s not that impressive of a performance. ISUb is a dumpster fire, and the only team with an offensive pulse put up 30+ on you at the dome. Your one example was actually 28 points, and it was Youngstown State when they were playing like an elite team (7 days after absolutely dominating SDSU). UND, ISUb, and SIU (minus their QB) are terrible. We only beat them 143-13 though. My opinion, if we pressure Christian we win. SDSU's run game doesn't concern me, but those big wideouts on our 4th and 5th corners will kill if we can't penetrate. Our offense should be putting up about 35 points. Just a matter of our defense having a pulse. |
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Post by jackedforlife on Nov 13, 2017 20:01:06 GMT -6
Sure. However your home games were against the bottom of the barrel as well. I’m well aware that the Dome is and advantage for you guys, but it’s not as massive as your home and away games make it seem. SIU is awful without their qb, so that’s not that impressive of a performance. ISUb is a dumpster fire, and the only team with an offensive pulse put up 30+ on you at the dome. Your one example was actually 28 points, and it was Youngstown State when they were playing like an elite team (7 days after absolutely dominating SDSU). UND, ISUb, and SIU (minus their QB) are terrible. We only beat them 143-13 though. My opinion, if we pressure Christian we win. SDSU's run game doesn't concern me, but those big wideouts on our 4th and 5th corners will kill if we can't penetrate. Our offense should be putting up about 35 points. Just a matter of our defense having a pulse. Pressuring Christion is a pick your poison. ISUr did a nice job of getting pressure, were able to get some hits and tip passes(a couple were picked). At some point Goedert and Weineke are going to be singled up as well...don’t respect the running game but with 144(69 in the 4th qtr) against NDSU and 189 against the Redbirds I think as a fan I’d be a little concerned at least. |
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Post by jackedforlife on Nov 13, 2017 20:05:45 GMT -6
Any of the scores against State turnovers? 14 of those points for unI probably shouldn’t count against our D. 17 of the UNI points were from turnovers. Stats say 10 but a fumble punt inside the 20, a fumble kick return inside the 20 and a Pick returned to the 3 all in the first qtr |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 13, 2017 20:13:58 GMT -6
Thumper,
You being here is rather pointless. We know in your mind you have the Jacks at roughly a 99.995 percent chance to win so there is really no need to have any further discussion with you. We get it the Coyotes suck and the Jacks are great.
Why don't we make a pact. Coyote fans can talk amongst themselves and Jacks fans can talk amongst themselves with no intermingling and we will just see what happens on Saturday. My original prediction was going to be 98-0 Jacks but I have backed off that just a little. I am torn between 77-0 or 84-7. I just need a little more time to crunch the numbers to see which one would be more appropriate. There is also that question of the percentage of Jacks fans in the stadium. I am debating that as well. I will probably settle on somewhere between 66% and 75% Jacks fans.
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Post by jackedforlife on Nov 13, 2017 20:19:26 GMT -6
Thumper, You being here is rather pointless. We know in your mind you have the Jacks at roughly a 99.995 percent chance to win so there is really no need to have any further discussion with you. We get it the Coyotes suck and the Jacks are great. Thumper, you’re giving them a .005% chance to win...you only gave the Bison a .001% chance...living in Fargo has tainted you. I won’t speak for Thumper but I enjoy some banter and exchanges of thoughts on the game. This is where us armchair QBs can voice our uneducated opinions... I enjoy when opposing fans come to sdsufans and share thoughts...the beauty of free speech, we all can sound like morons...it’s just that some are better than others. |
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Post by thumper76 on Nov 13, 2017 20:24:00 GMT -6
Valid points thumper. The thing that makes me more confident and doesn't really mean a whole lot is how we have played the Jacks close the last two times in the dome when we weren't as good of a team. I think it may be another exciting game. Im not expecting a cakewalk for the Jacks. The only way this isn’t a close game is if the Jacks get up by a couple score quick and the Yotes cave, but I don’t see that happening. Thumper, You being here is rather pointless. We know in your mind you have the Jacks at roughly a 99.995 percent chance to win so there is really no need to have any further discussion with you. We get it the Coyotes suck and the Jacks are great. Why don't we make a pact. Coyote fans can talk amongst themselves and Jacks fans can talk amongst themselves with no intermingling and we will just see what happens on Saturday. My original prediction was going to be 98-0 Jacks but I have backed off that just a little. I am torn between 77-0 or 84-7. I just need a little more time to crunch the numbers to see which one would be more appropriate. There is also that question of the percentage of Jacks fans in the stadium. I am debating that as well. I will probably settle on somewhere between 66% and 75% Jacks fans. I don’t think I’ve said that anywhere this year. If I think the Yotes are a top 15 team in the country. God forbid I look at some interesting stats to compare the teams, sensitive sally. Though I agree my being here is pointless, most entertainment really is pointless though. |
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Post by Yotes on Nov 13, 2017 20:29:27 GMT -6
Please don't humor Coyote Fan.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 13, 2017 20:33:03 GMT -6
Thumper, You being here is rather pointless. We know in your mind you have the Jacks at roughly a 99.995 percent chance to win so there is really no need to have any further discussion with you. We get it the Coyotes suck and the Jacks are great. Thumper, you’re giving them a .005% chance to win...you only gave the Bison a .001% chance...living in Fargo has tainted you. I won’t speak for Thumper but I enjoy some banter and exchanges of thoughts on the game. This is where us armchair QBs can voice our uneducated opinions... I enjoy when opposing fans come to sdsufans and share thoughts...the beauty of free speech, we all can sound like morons...it’s just that some are better than others. I agree, opposing fans exchanging thoughts (in a respectful manner) is wonderful. What few posts you have made seem to be in that vein. Thank you for visiting. |
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