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Post by elcoyote on Nov 13, 2017 22:27:21 GMT -6
I don't mind at all when opposing fans come on here to talk about the game when they bring decent conversation to the mix. So far, that's exactly what the people who have stopped by have done so why would anyone want them to leave? Thumper, meet Coyote Fan. If you can keep him engaged this week we'd really appreciate it. Maybe you could convince him to be a SDSU fan. You'd have our undying gratitude.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 13, 2017 23:44:18 GMT -6
There is one thing that I have more similarities with Jacks fans than Coyotes fans. Jacks fans hate losing much more than Coyote fans do and I wish Yote fans would adopt that mentality more than they do. Ironically because of that they experience much less losing than than Coyote fans do. I call it "Coyote Nice". If the same poll I put up was put up on the SDSU site or the NDSU site (if their teams were in a similar predicament) it would have dramatically different results.
Coach Nielson admitted in no exact words that the Coyotes basically quit in the NDSU game and what do people do but barely even notice or barely seem to care. Barely a word of critisism other than "shucks will get em next time". Fans are so used to losing at USD that they take it in stride way too easily. If the coach is saying it why can't the fans convey those same thoughts.
Don't in anyway insinuate that I don't have confidence in Nielson. What I am saying is that in no way do I consider this a successful year if the Coyotes lose on Saturday and miss the playoffs. I would even go as far to say it is still a disappointment if the Coyotes do make the playoffs at 7-4 and go one and done. The Yotes put themselves in a great position only to mostly let it slip away.
So without making this about one poster are there any other Coyotes fans that are sick to their stomach with what has happened lately. I sure hope there are some fans that feel that way. Are there any posters out there that are simply sick of losing to the Jacks almost every time.
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Post by usdtator on Nov 14, 2017 8:00:19 GMT -6
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Post by jackedforlife on Nov 14, 2017 8:09:47 GMT -6
Would your poll be perceived differently on a Jacks or Bison site, sure...our site had a thread about if it was time for Stig to go. This was started be a former player who I believe loves Stig the man. It was in no way a fire Stig thread but quickly headed that direction. The frustration many were venting is that when the Jacks lay an egg it's similar mistakes yearly and consensus is lack of in game adjustments. Losing sucks, but when it's your in state rival it burns a little more. There are games where everything seems to go wrong(yours=NDSU, ours=UNI) where at some point you look back and say, no way does a normal game go down like that. I expect a hard fought battle this Saturday in the Dome with so many intangibles. I can honestly see this turning ugly for either team quickly or being nip/tuck and it being one on the last possession or a last second FG.
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Post by yotesbacker on Nov 14, 2017 9:06:17 GMT -6
Polls Schmolls, who cares? These next few days the Yotes Defensive staff and players have a great opportunity to prepare for the jacks, and prove last week was more about the Bison O being really good than us being a really bad D. Tighten up the defense and we win. Pretty simple. Go YOTES, exorcise those demons against the jacks!!! Should be a great day for COYOTE athletics, with a football-basketball double header.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 14, 2017 10:01:06 GMT -6
I just read that it has been since 1997 since the last time the coyotes beat the jacks in vermilion. wow some students were not even alive yet.
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Post by thebacksackdad on Nov 14, 2017 12:38:21 GMT -6
I just read that it has been since 1997 since the last time the coyotes beat the jacks in vermilion. wow some students were not even alive yet. ... and your point is, as it pertains to this game? |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 14, 2017 13:01:51 GMT -6
I just read that it has been since 1997 since the last time the coyotes beat the jacks in vermilion. wow some students were not even alive yet. ... and your point is, as it pertains to this game? My point is that is some long time suffering for Coyote fans that actually are bothered by that which IMO seems to be not very many. That makes winning over the Jacks that much more important. I wish more people would recognize those sorts of things. It may not be the current teams problem and may not be Nielson's problem but it is an issue with the program and long time fan base. I think that type of thing needs to be up on the bulletin board. What is someone were to tell you that for the next 20 years the Coyotes would beat the Jacks 1 time. How would that make you feel. If that question was asked 20 years ago, it would be true. If you don't recognize the past and don't do anything to change the past it very well might repeat itself. If the Coyote lose on Saturday and especially if they miss the playoffs I can't believe that at least two-thirds of the fan base would consider that a successful season. If the players after that loss would say "you know what, it is ok we had a good year". What would happen is that the loss wouldn't hurt enough and not enough would be done in the off season to right the wrongs. Losses need to sting very badly because if they don't there is less urgency going forward. Obviously it appears the program is on the right track but do consider if the Coyotes lose to the Jacks they will be 7-8 in their last 15 games. That is very mediocre. If the Coyotes win we can forget about the losing streak and the feeling will be a positive one because much will be made right and the Coyotes will at least have some momentum going into the post season. |
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Post by kiyoat on Nov 14, 2017 13:20:41 GMT -6
I just read that it has been since 1997 since the last time the coyotes beat the jacks in vermilion. wow some students were not even alive yet. Wrong. We beat them in 2000. And that's not a 17-game streak because we didn't play them for nine years. It's an 8-game win streak, which is bad enough without exaggerating it out to 20. |
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 14, 2017 13:24:28 GMT -6
How many of those years did the two teams not even play though due to the D1 movement? Quite a few IIRC. Then even after we made the transition to D1 and were in the Great West the Jacks still wouldn't ink an OOC game with us. So you can say it has been 20 years but for many of those years the game was on hiatus.
It's like saying the Gophers have not beaten South Dakota in football since 2010.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 14, 2017 13:41:26 GMT -6
You think that's bad? USD hasn't beaten Yankton College since 1947. Even worse, the team's last win against Le Mars Crescent came in 1899. We're going back to the stinking McKinley administration on that one. Disband the team.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 14, 2017 14:46:19 GMT -6
The Argus must have quoted wrong because I read 1997. The point is that since the 80's the series has been extremely lopsided and it is up to Coyote Fans to make their own opinion how acceptable that is. If the winner was reversed for the last quarter century I think you could count how many Jacks fans would be accepting of that on less then one middle digit because there would be many of those flashed from their fans if that were the case.
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Post by jackedforlife on Nov 14, 2017 14:46:22 GMT -6
I just read that it has been since 1997 since the last time the coyotes beat the jacks in vermilion. wow some students were not even alive yet. Wrong. We beat them in 2000. And that's not a 17-game streak because we didn't play them for nine years. It's an 8-game win streak, which is bad enough without exaggerating it out to 20. I believe his point had to do with the Yotes beating the Jacks in Vermillion, the 2000 game was in Brookings. You guys ran all over us that day... |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 14, 2017 14:55:17 GMT -6
I believe that was dusty stamers only season with the yotes and he had a big game. of course I couldn't make it to that game.
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Post by oldhare on Nov 14, 2017 15:00:18 GMT -6
This is a quick reminder for those who do not normally watch morning television. Friday morning the 4:30 to 7:00 KSFY people will be at the Dome for the morning show. Of course, the talent are grads of NDSU & SDSU. There will be some hype for the morning people for Saturday's game which will likely feature the Coyote admin, cheerleaders, maybe band, and who knows.
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