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Post by kiyoat on Mar 22, 2019 8:28:01 GMT -6
Yeah, I don't know if all the athletes declaring for transfer are any good or not, but you absolutely need the right coach to get the turnaround they need as a program. I doubt any of them would be as critical a loss that Mooney was for us. They are doing the right thing, IMO, by aiming higher in coaching. Transfer culture in MBB makes it a little easier to change your talent profile quickly, if your coach plays that game well. I could see a good coach turning that program into a basketball power, with all the local talent there.
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Post by gopheryote on Mar 25, 2019 15:03:23 GMT -6
UMKC Update: Now up to 10 transfers listed on Verbal Commits. How can you even talk a coach in to taking a job when something like that is going on?
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Post by Yote 53 on Mar 26, 2019 7:45:49 GMT -6
UMKC Update: Now up to 10 transfers listed on Verbal Commits. How can you even talk a coach in to taking a job when something like that is going on? Might actually be attractive to a prospective coach as he'll have a completely blank slate to work with, can bring in all his own players, not have to worry about integrating current players into his system or having the tough job of running players who don't fit off, and can use it as an excuse to the administration to buy himself more time in a rebuild. Next season would actually really be "Year 0". It's all in how you look at it.
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Post by kiyoat on Mar 29, 2019 15:01:47 GMT -6
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Post by gorabbits on Mar 29, 2019 16:53:32 GMT -6
Interesting side note. Billy Donlon was Nagy's predecessor at Wright State.
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Post by Yotes on Mar 29, 2019 17:05:40 GMT -6
Is it a foregone conclusion that UMKC is coming back at some point? Douple wants them and I have no idea what they might see in the WAC. Are they just waiting out a buyout clause or something?
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Post by aldewitt on Mar 29, 2019 19:21:41 GMT -6
If “Chicago State” and UMKC have to play college sports they should be in the Summit.
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Post by Yotes on Mar 29, 2019 19:56:03 GMT -6
If “Chicago State” and UMKC have to play college sports they should be in the Summit. Chicago State has an insanely low graduation rate, endowment of just $5 million, and is facing a financial situation exponentially more dire than Western Illinois. A few years ago ALL of their employees received layoff notices. This school has no business offering D1 athletics and seems very likely to close in the near future. We made do in the Great West but I would be mortified if USD went back to being attached to that embarrassment.
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Post by aldewitt on Mar 29, 2019 20:40:04 GMT -6
Yea, Augie would be a good back up in case Chicago dropped out. Or maybe just Augie and UMKC?
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Post by aldewitt on Mar 31, 2019 8:51:05 GMT -6
If “Chicago State” and UMKC have to play college sports they should be in the Summit. Chicago State has an insanely low graduation rate, endowment of just $5 million, and is facing a financial situation exponentially more dire than Western Illinois. A few years ago ALL of their employees received layoff notices. This school has no business offering D1 athletics and seems very likely to close in the near future. We made do in the Great West but I would be mortified if USD went back to being attached to that embarrassment. They do have an accredited college of Pharmacy. Their college of Business will prepare you for an accounting career and other business management programs will prepare you for employment. They don’t offer a large variety of programs but they have a liberal arts and a college of education, both are of questionable value at any school. As far as practical employment skills I liked their sales preparation courses. Anybody with the gift of gab can find success selling. They arent crown jewel material but the WAC travel must be killing them. I think all their sports are non revenue and they have been kicking around the bottom a while now. I’m not even sure but due to their history they may not even be welcome in the Summit. Augie is is the only eager beaver out there looking for a Summit invite. UMKC sees the Summit schools as all Augies. WAC travel expenses are the cost of their ego on that issue.
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Post by elcoyote on Mar 31, 2019 12:20:35 GMT -6
"… a college of education, both are of questionable value at any school." Nice. Training teachers is of questionable value now.
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Post by aldewitt on Mar 31, 2019 14:22:37 GMT -6
Yes, without getting into politics too much the department of education has created such confusion and failure in our schools as they try to control outcomes largely based on racial criteria rather than help children develop and learn to the best of their abilities that they are dangerous places to be, often shot up, and always indoctrinating. Their programs including common core math and whole word reading are absurd and destructive. I would never send any child to a public school and strongly support vouchers. I am in total agreement with many advisors that college is now largely a waste of money. But I digress. I simply should have said they are not distinguished by those programs.
My greater and relevant point is that Augie is a school that actually wants to be in the Summit. They are as much a part of our future as they are of our past.
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Post by yotebewithyou on Mar 31, 2019 20:17:54 GMT -6
If “Chicago State” and UMKC have to play college sports they should be in the Summit. I can't take you seriously anymore.
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Post by kiyoat on Mar 31, 2019 20:36:22 GMT -6
Can we please never mention Chicago State again in this thread? They are a hot mess, wrapped in a clusterf8<k, inside a dumpster fire. There really are few choices of division 1 schools that would be worse.
Do not want.
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Post by aldewitt on Apr 1, 2019 4:23:14 GMT -6
If “Chicago State” and UMKC have to play college sports they should be in the Summit. I can't take you seriously anymore. From a geographical stand point the Summit makes more sense than the wac for both of them. Think UND in the Big Sky. UMKC fled the Summit when the Dakota Augies joined. Other schools are fleeing as well. I lost track of Chicago back in the great west days Why would UMKC or Chicago State for that matter want to play in the Summit where they could bus sometimes when they can fly out to the west coast somewhere to play the illustrious WAC teams every week? They have made it clear who they think the Augies are. Its ironic the four biggest Augies in D1 have fans with an Augie complex. im no fan of Chicago or UMKC for that matter but geographically they would be better off in the Summit. I think that might make sense to their front office some day and UMKC will land in the Summit but they are no prize. Chicago? Who knows? Just think NCC 2 and you will be on the right track for the future of the Summit.
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