obc
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Post by obc on Oct 28, 2018 8:38:08 GMT -6
Observations from the NDSU game:
I certainly could go on and on about the different position groups - each one getting beaten badly by NDSU. I will just sum up that what we witnessed was what it looks like when a veteran-led, determined, disciplined, focused, physical, and talented team (actually more than a team - a program and culture) faces a group of mostly young and inexperienced individuals struggling to try and operate as a unit, lacking leadership, confidence, determination, discipline, and energy. In fact if you would not even watch the game, but only watch the sideline organization, engagement, and discipline - you could tell which program was dominant. Way too many of our guys dancing and giggling on the sideline while they are getting their asses handed to them. Focus on the game and get mental reps in when not playing. For those suited up and not in the game - you are one play away from getting put into the game. For those in street clothes - the coaches brought you in because they expect you to step in and improve the team. Get mentally ready today, so you can be that much ahead when you do play. You don't have to wait to be a Jr or Sr to take a leadership role on the team. Take control and set the new expectations and standard. If you have slackers that won't step up and meet that standard - kick their ass until they change or leave. There is no other way.
The Bison set the standard for excellence and the gap between where they are currently and where the USD program is extremely wide (as wide as it has ever been in my opinion). We have not closed the gap one inch against them in my view. Now it is up to the team on what they want to do. When confronted with a program that is that much better currently, the program can do one of two things - USD can look at NDSU's excellence and cower and be overwhelmed by it, feeling like a bunch of losers - Or they can look at that standard as where they need to get to - focus on getting a little better each day - focus on being a little better version of themselves each day as they prepare for the next time they get a chance to challenge the Bison. I sure hope they choose the route of taking on the challenge and improving a little every day and strive for greatness versus just going into a shell and waving the white flag. SDSU has had success largely because they have used NDSU as their target of excellence and have improved significantly as a result. USD needs to put their focus there as well.
NDSU is the class of the FCS - they could easily move up a division and have success. Impressive program and we should all be excited to compete with them and make it bring out the best in us - players, coaches, and fans.
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Post by aldewitt on Oct 28, 2018 10:42:57 GMT -6
Wow!!!!!!! He is Horrible!!!! Don't care what anyone says. Or how you will try and make me look like a fool. That wasn't o lines fault. Get him off the field. Horrible Horrible Horrible. He is afraid That's a little extreme, In fact it's wrong. USD has the #2 passing offense in the league. Austin Simmons is #2 in total offense. Austin Simmons is #2 in passing average/game. You can find reasons to criticize him of course but you can't demonstrate he is incompetent in running the offense. He is one of the best in the league. Listed as a jr he can has time to work on the parts of his game that need improvement. |
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Post by bisoninnwmn on Oct 28, 2018 10:52:45 GMT -6
Wow!!!!!!! He is Horrible!!!! Don't care what anyone says. Or how you will try and make me look like a fool. That wasn't o lines fault. Get him off the field. Horrible Horrible Horrible. He is afraid That's a little extreme, In fact it's wrong. USD has the #2 passing offense in the league. Austin Simmons is #2 in total offense. Austin Simmons is #2 in passing average/game. You can find reasons to criticize him of course but you can't demonstrate he is incompetent in running the offense. He is one of the best in the league. Listed as a jr he can has time to work on the parts of his game that need improvement. IMO, there is nothing wrong with Simmons. Kid is a gritty competitor. There are also good WRs. OL needs to improve and running game. USD needs to improve on the defensive side of the ball...period. NDSU has rushed for over 1000 yards the last 3 games against the Coyotes. Take a page from Klieman....build the team from both lines out. |
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Post by sportschic on Oct 28, 2018 11:03:56 GMT -6
Trying to be objective and non-biased......something has happened to this team pandemicably in all areas. It is evident there is no leadership. This is where I say your QB needs to be a strong leader and Simmons is not that. There can be other leaders for position groups but regardless the team leader needs to be the QB. One thing that was evident to me was ....there was not 1 throw to Karai the entire game......WHY? He is in the top five receivers in the conference and your playing the best team in the FCS and not 1 target pass to him! He amongst others were wide open in the seam numerous times and overlooked. Simmons does appear to be scared but I guess if you have huge lineman coming after you every game anyone would be scared.
Also this senior class in general does not have the presence, respect and leadership of last years senior class. Stetson, Strevy, Wessell, BVR were leaders even when injured and not playing. You show me a team with absent leadership and I’ll show you a team with no cohesiveness or direction.
I have not lost an ounce of faith in Coach Nielson... he will Identify and remedy any coaching improvements that need to be made on the off season.my concern is the culture of this team...that needs an overhaul. I fully support Simmons capabilities and athleticism and with experience he will get football savvy it’s his leadership ability that’s in question. A QB without leading ability is crucial in a football teams success.
Some of you have mentioned heart and quitting, if the coaches quit the player will quit. I have read some accounts of what you heard and saw on the sideline in reference to certain coaches and if those things are true than there is your answer to the lack of fire and motivation this team appears to have.
Offense: way too predictable... easy to scout and scheme against.
Defense: on the field way to much and lack of pressure on valley QB’s. Also your free safety should not be your leading tackler game after game.
This team has finish this season with some fight and fam support so they can go into the off season with some confidence and motivation.
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NDSU week.
Oct 28, 2018 11:27:54 GMT -6
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Post by highplainsbison on Oct 28, 2018 11:27:54 GMT -6
Observations from the NDSU game: I certainly could go on and on about the different position groups - each one getting beaten badly by NDSU. I will just sum up that what we witnessed was what it looks like when a veteran-led, determined, disciplined, focused, physical, and talented team (actually more than a team - a program and culture) faces a group of mostly young and inexperienced individuals struggling to try and operate as a unit, lacking leadership, confidence, determination, discipline, and energy. In fact if you would not even watch the game, but only watch the sideline organization, engagement, and discipline - you could tell which program was dominant. Way too many of our guys dancing and giggling on the sideline while they are getting their asses handed to them. Focus on the game and get mental reps in when not playing. For those suited up and not in the game - you are one play away from getting put into the game. For those in street clothes - the coaches brought you in because they expect you to step in and improve the team. Get mentally ready today, so you can be that much ahead when you do play. You don't have to wait to be a Jr or Sr to take a leadership role on the team. Take control and set the new expectations and standard. If you have slackers that won't step up and meet that standard - kick their ass until they change or leave. There is no other way. The Bison set the standard for excellence and the gap between where they are currently and where the USD program is extremely wide (as wide as it has ever been in my opinion). We have not closed the gap one inch against them in my view. Now it is up to the team on what they want to do. When confronted with a program that is that much better currently, the program can do one of two things - USD can look at NDSU's excellence and cower and be overwhelmed by it, feeling like a bunch of losers - Or they can look at that standard as where they need to get to - focus on getting a little better each day - focus on being a little better version of themselves each day as they prepare for the next time they get a chance to challenge the Bison. I sure hope they choose the route of taking on the challenge and improving a little every day and strive for greatness versus just going into a shell and waving the white flag. SDSU has had success largely because they have used NDSU as their target of excellence and have improved significantly as a result. USD needs to put their focus there as well. NDSU is the class of the FCS - they could easily move up a division and have success. Impressive program and we should all be excited to compete with them and make it bring out the best in us - players, coaches, and fans. 👆 This!👆 You nailed it, mate!! |
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NDSU week.
Oct 28, 2018 20:32:45 GMT -6
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Post by usdyotes on Oct 28, 2018 20:32:45 GMT -6
Wow!!!!!!! He is Horrible!!!! Don't care what anyone says. Or how you will try and make me look like a fool. That wasn't o lines fault. Get him off the field. Horrible Horrible Horrible. He is afraid That's a little extreme, In fact it's wrong. USD has the #2 passing offense in the league. Austin Simmons is #2 in total offense. Austin Simmons is #2 in passing average/game. You can find reasons to criticize him of course but you can't demonstrate he is incompetent in running the offense. He is one of the best in the league. Listed as a jr he can has time to work on the parts of his game that need improvement. Yes he is and how's that working out for you? Don't give me he is that and he is that give me wins. The problem is he can't. Again he is great against carp teams big deal. Beat an average team not even a good one but he can't. I know I know its the o lines fault. |
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NDSU week.
Oct 28, 2018 20:35:09 GMT -6
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Post by usdyotes on Oct 28, 2018 20:35:09 GMT -6
Trying to be objective and non-biased......something has happened to this team pandemicably in all areas. It is evident there is no leadership. This is where I say your QB needs to be a strong leader and Simmons is not that. There can be other leaders for position groups but regardless the team leader needs to be the QB. One thing that was evident to me was ....there was not 1 throw to Karai the entire game......WHY? He is in the top five receivers in the conference and your playing the best team in the FCS and not 1 target pass to him! He amongst others were wide open in the seam numerous times and overlooked. Simmons does appear to be scared but I guess if you have huge lineman coming after you every game anyone would be scared. Also this senior class in general does not have the presence, respect and leadership of last years senior class. Stetson, Strevy, Wessell, BVR were leaders even when injured and not playing. You show me a team with absent leadership and I’ll show you a team with no cohesiveness or direction. I have not lost an ounce of faith in Coach Nielson... he will Identify and remedy any coaching improvements that need to be made on the off season.my concern is the culture of this team...that needs an overhaul. I fully support Simmons capabilities and athleticism and with experience he will get football savvy it’s his leadership ability that’s in question. A QB without leading ability is crucial in a football teams success. Some of you have mentioned heart and quitting, if the coaches quit the player will quit. I have read some accounts of what you heard and saw on the sideline in reference to certain coaches and if those things are true than there is your answer to the lack of fire and motivation this team appears to have. Offense: way too predictable... easy to scout and scheme against. Defense: on the field way to much and lack of pressure on valley QB’s. Also your free safety should not be your leading tackler game after game. This team has finish this season with some fight and fam support so they can go into the off season with some confidence and motivation. Well said!!! Watch out though they will be coming after you now. |
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Post by Yotes on Oct 28, 2018 21:00:57 GMT -6
I think we can all respect a well stated, thought out opinion. There's a reason why your posts illicit backlash.
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Post by elcoyote on Oct 28, 2018 22:50:34 GMT -6
Senior day will be interesting. Wonder who the spotlight will be on?
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Post by aldewitt on Oct 29, 2018 5:56:43 GMT -6
That's a little extreme, In fact it's wrong. USD has the #2 passing offense in the league. Austin Simmons is #2 in total offense. Austin Simmons is #2 in passing average/game. You can find reasons to criticize him of course but you can't demonstrate he is incompetent in running the offense. He is one of the best in the league. Listed as a jr he can has time to work on the parts of his game that need improvement. Yes he is and how's that working out for you? Don't give me he is that and he is that give me wins. The problem is he can't. Again he is great against carp teams big deal. Beat an average team not even a good one but he can't. I know I know its the o lines fault. As far as wins and losses go I can tell you assuridly The Yotes are defying the odds. They should be much better. Everybody needs to improve. There is criticism to go around. If I were you I would go read sportschics post again to try and change your focus. Among all the good things she said was this: |
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Post by golfingyote on Oct 29, 2018 7:23:22 GMT -6
The 2 easiest places to look when things are going bad are..? the head coach and the QB, which is for the most part where much of the convo has gone the last several days. My personal opinion is that Simmons has received the short end of the stick in terms of criticism. This team has a lot of flaws, and I think Simmons would be the first to admit he has not played his best. But, he is not the reason we are losing football games.
The best teams in this league can run the football/have to be able to. Playing outdoors in October/November you have to be able to run the football. Period. Being this bad on the ground does a few things. First, we are dead last in the league in TOP...and its not even close. In fact its embarrassingly bad. Second, that means our defense is on the field the most in the league, and if no one has noticed, our front 7 is not very good right now. We are dead last in sacks, get no pressure, and constantly look overwhelmed at the point of attack in the ground game.
Look around the league, the last 2 teams Nielsen has coached are dead last in the league in rushing...while the team thats surprising everyone is pounding it for 5.3 yards a crack on the ground(Indiana State). I like the uptempo spread offense, but not if it means being inept at running the football.
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Oct 29, 2018 12:35:19 GMT -6
Outside of the game, I had a good time tailgating with the Bison fans. Their fans sitting by me were also enjoyable outside of one drunk guy, but theres always that one guy....
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Post by elcoyote on Oct 29, 2018 13:39:19 GMT -6
Outside of the game, I had a good time tailgating with the Bison fans. Their fans sitting by me were also enjoyable outside of one drunk guy, but theres always that one guy.... I always lurk on our opponents message board the week of our game and I always thought they were pretty good to be around too, but this past week on Bisonville our fans base was referred to as stupid, jealous pathetic losers, Coach Nielson is a low key jerk, our players are cheapshot assholes and our facility is a dump. Maybe it's just their jerks who post there because I was kind of surprised by this, but it might be interesting to see what they're like when they fall back into the pack. Might take awhile, but inevitably they will at some point. |
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Post by Yotes on Oct 29, 2018 17:26:17 GMT -6
I went to Fargo last year and have nothing but great things to say about their fans, except one guy. There's always that one guy.
P.S. I'm sure that I've been that one guy for others many times.
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Post by kiyoat on Oct 29, 2018 17:46:28 GMT -6
Outside of the game, I had a good time tailgating with the Bison fans. Their fans sitting by me were also enjoyable outside of one drunk guy, but theres always that one guy.... I always lurk on our opponents message board the week of our game and I always thought they were pretty good to be around too, but this past week on Bisonville our fans base was referred to as stupid, jealous pathetic losers, Coach Nielson is a low key jerk, our players are cheapshot assholes and our facility is a dump. Maybe it's just their jerks who post there because I was kind of surprised by this, but it might be interesting to see what they're like when they fall back into the pack. Might take awhile, but inevitably they will at some point. If I had to guess, I'd say that the change you perceived was somewhat related to the fact that we had a good season a year ago, we are recruiting well, spending money on the facilities, and we at least have their attention. The small but loud percentage of dicks in their fan base would probably be a lot nicer to a program that posed no threat whatsoever to their dominance. Obviously that didn't play out well on the field this year, but there is positive momentum in the athletic department. Plus, we have lately upstaged them in men's and women's basketball, volleyball, and have gotten close in softball, etc. Obviously none of that means as much to them as football, but it's all part of the perception of our Athletic Department. Just a guess. |
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