@ Denver

[kiyoat]

I guess I wasn’t assuming that the ref’s calls were favoring Denver, or anything like that. It just sounded like the game was called inconsistently. Like allowing very physical play at times, and calling touch-fouls away from the ball at other times. It’s hard to adjust your play when you have inconsistent calls.

Also, didn’t we get called for 3 second violations like three or four times? Seems a little odd. I have a hard time believing that we suddenly just forgot how to play. Oh well. These are the same refs that allow Daum to lower his shoulder and lay out his defenders with impunity, so we can’t expect perfection.

[gopheryote]

Someone noted in the OOC that Denver is scary because of their style. If they are 'on' it is unlikely that either of the SD schools can adjust their style to keep up in tourney play. Well, we saw that exact scenario in spades at Denver. Negative spin - the better team can't allow the other team to control pace/style of a game. Positive spin - Yotes really did adjust to that style (99 points), but Denver just never came back down to earth shooting the ball.

FWIW, I kind of expected SDSU MBB to fall at PFW, and unfortunately make them more focused/intense for the game Sunday (didn't expect the blowout though). I hope the same thing happens in our favor for WBB.

[kiyoat]

Also of note: there was no postgame interview with coach P. I don’t recall Thayer even mentioning it, TBH. Not that surprising, I guess, but usually they come out, rain or shine.

[Yotes]

Doesn't Thayer complain about the refs most of the time anyways?

Either way, there goes any shot at an at-large bid.

[coyoteglory]

The at-large part is tough because I think we're now back to a one bid league. But hopefully it means that we come out stronger against State on Sunday.

[kiyoat]

Jan 4, 2019 7:43:54 GMT -6 Yotes said:

Doesn't Thayer complain about the refs most of the time anyways?

Either way, there goes any shot at an at-large bid.

In the words of Lee Corso: 

Not so fast, my friend...

The think people always forget about the crappy RPI is this:  It doesn't keep track of who you lose to, just number of wins/losses and SOS.  That's it.  (and where you lost, home/neutral/away) Whether our one loss comes from SDSU or Denver, it makes no difference to the RPI score.

The committee will look at good/bad losses, of course, but time and time again it has been proven that your RPI trumps most everything, unless you are squarely on the bubble.  That's when the human comparisons make a difference.

We just need to beat SDSU on Sunday and go from there.

[coyoteglory]

Jan 4, 2019 8:02:52 GMT -6 kiyoat said:

Jan 4, 2019 7:43:54 GMT -6 Yotes said:

Doesn't Thayer complain about the refs most of the time anyways?

Either way, there goes any shot at an at-large bid.

In the words of Lee Corso: 

Not so fast, my friend...

The think people always forget about the crappy RPI is this:  It doesn't keep track of who you lose to, just number of wins/losses and SOS.  That's it.  (and where you lost, home/neutral/away) Whether our one loss comes from SDSU or Denver, it makes no difference to the RPI score.

The committee will look at good/bad losses, of course, but time and time again it has been proven that your RPI trumps most everything, unless you are squarely on the bubble.  That's when the human comparisons make a difference.

We just need to beat SDSU on Sunday and go from there.

I like the hope. I guess a sweep against SDSU could change things.

[larobe]

I wouldn't be so despondent about this ending any thoughts at getting an at-large bid in the NCAA Tournament just yet, there's a good chance of winning the Conference auto-bid for another thing,and it just makes any other game from now on that much more critical to win. The Yotes still have the impressive wins against two top 25 schools to their credit, if that's enough to keep the at-large hopes alive or not, who knows.  Denver just ratcheted up the pressure for all the contenders who have to face each other yet, as well as gives the lower half teams incentive to up their games and become spoilers themselves. This has suddenly become a very interesting Summit league Conference season, but as long as one of the SD teams remain an at-large bid recipient, the other, or anyone for that matter, still has the opportunity to get the Conference auto-bid given to the SLT Champs. This year, the pressure to keep an at-large status going forward has become more difficult, as well as winning the SLT. All this because the prior seasons "status quo" of the SD schools handling the other conference members on the road and only losing to each other has been jeopardized. But, to sum up, we can still get two teams into the Dance, but it just became more difficult for any team to keep an at-large status going ( just the two SD schools at this juncture) , it's going to have to be really earned this season for it to happen. Otherwise, we are back to becoming a one team NCAA Tournament Conference and the Summit League Tournament Champs take all. That's the life of a mid-major.

[Men's League Waterboy]

The refs made some interesting calls both ways. It happens. And Denver had the better night at a lot of spots. Team didn’t look as focused defensively and one of our advantages this season, the size and athleticism of Sjerven off the bench was totally neutralized by Jeffcoat’s play and Denver’s understanding of what she wants to do with the ball.

They were just better last night. They didn’t get sucked into trying to do something they don’t do and they kept the pace rolling.

Hot team, trap game, at elevation, it was kind of a recipe for trouble. Let’s just see how they respond.

[leatherneckcountry]

I can't comment on USD cause I haven't seen them play but SDSU just didn't pass the eye test as an at large bid in my opinion I've seen much better Jacks teams.

[steelsd]

Jan 4, 2019 12:28:46 GMT -6 leatherneckcountry said:

I can't comment on USD cause I haven't seen them play but SDSU just didn't pass the eye test as an at large bid in my opinion I've seen much better Jacks teams.

Much better? Uh, no you haven’t...

[leatherneckcountry]

Jan 4, 2019 16:10:32 GMT -6 steelsd said:

Jan 4, 2019 12:28:46 GMT -6 leatherneckcountry said:

I can't comment on USD cause I haven't seen them play but SDSU just didn't pass the eye test as an at large bid in my opinion I've seen much better Jacks teams.

Much better? Uh, no you haven’t...

They easily could have lost to a WIU who got creamed by a bad UTEP team. SDSU beat a better WIU team last year by almost 30 every game. They have Miller and Guebert and that's it. This team isn't nearly as good as the 15-16 team. 

[steelsd]

Jan 4, 2019 16:47:48 GMT -6 leatherneckcountry said:

Jan 4, 2019 16:10:32 GMT -6 steelsd said:

Much better? Uh, no you haven’t...

They easily could have lost to a WIU who got creamed by a bad UTEP team. SDSU beat a better WIU team last year by almost 30 every game. They have Miller and Guebert and that's it. This team isn't nearly as good as the 15-16 team. 

You mean a team that lost by 6 on a neutral court to a Baylor team that just beat UConn? Or, the team that had was tied with #4 Oregon in the 4th quarter? Yeah, we’ve had much better teams than this at SDSU....

The fact that you think this is a two person team tells me you don’t know much about the SDSU team. We return 4 starters from a team that was an 8 seed in the NCAAs last year, which is the highest we’ve been seeded. The 15-16 team was good, but the best two players from that team are still here, only with 3 more years of experience. And that team had zero offensive production from the 3 players it brought off the bench.

But probably silly to argue the SDSU roster on a USD board.

[elcoyote]

Good grief...must be your shift tonight to peruse the internet looking for slights to the bunnies and to quickly inform the miscreant of the errors of their ways.

[steelsd]

Jan 4, 2019 20:06:12 GMT -6 elcoyote said:

Good grief...must be your shift tonight to peruse the internet looking for slights to the bunnies and to quickly inform the miscreant of the errors of their ways.

Actually he made a comment that peaked my interest, so considering this is a message board I decided to have a conversation about it. Crazy...

But fine, we can resume the conversation about your loss to Denver now...