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Post by Yotes on Feb 13, 2020 22:35:55 GMT -6
Yikes. Lost at home to a 4-7 Denver team. When's the last time they lost to anyone but USD at home? Especially in league play. Answer: Lost to Marquette and Central Michigan at home back in December. Last Summit loss at home that wasn't to USD: A 57-56 loss to IUPUI in January 2013.
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Post by Yotes on Feb 13, 2020 22:43:21 GMT -6
Yikes. Lost at home to a 4-7 Denver team. When's the last time they lost to anyone but USD at home? Especially in league play. Haven't seen any stats, but I would imagine that Denver was just hot from three point land. They certainly have that potential. Denver went 4/23 from 3. Shot 39% overall. It's an upset, but that's not the formula for one.
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Post by elcoyote on Feb 13, 2020 22:54:08 GMT -6
Haven't seen any stats, but I would imagine that Denver was just hot from three point land. They certainly have that potential. Denver went 4/23 from 3. Shot 39% overall. It's an upset, but that's not the formula for one. That's very surprising. If someone would have told me Denver shot 4/23 from three and not mentioned the score I would have thought SDSU in a walk.
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Post by gopheryote on Feb 14, 2020 6:30:40 GMT -6
I was really hoping SDSU could get their RPI in the top 50 to help our resume, but they dropped 20 spots down to #82. Now we need to make sure they don't go into a tailspin and fall out of top 100.
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 14, 2020 7:15:22 GMT -6
I was really hoping SDSU could get their RPI in the top 50 to help our resume, but they dropped 20 spots down to #82. Now we need to make sure they don't go into a tailspin and fall out of top 100. Numbers Wise it's a wash once we get to conference play. Perception wise it will only matter if SDSU falls into a different quadrant, since that's what the committee sees.
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Post by usdtator on Feb 14, 2020 8:00:01 GMT -6
My guess is that the bunny women shit-the-bed at home just to spite us.
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 17, 2020 9:07:12 GMT -6
Summit WBB standings:
South Dakota-------13-0 Won 13
South Dakota State 11-2 Won 1
Western Illinois------8-5 Won 1 Oral Roberts---------7-6 Lost 1 Denver ---------------6-7 Won 3 North Dakota --------5-7 Lost 3 North Dakota State --5-7 Won 1
Omaha ---------------1-11 Lost 10 Purdue Fort Wayne --1-12 Lost 6
Only three or four games left, and some teams are running out of time to improve their situations.
Frontrunners: The Jacks' unexpected loss to Denver at home has taken their destiny out of their hands. They now need to both beat the Coyotes and have them lose to another team. The odds of both happening are fairly low, I would think. The Yotes can now lose to State and still win the regular season title and earn the #1 seed in the SLT. They will need to stay focused to win out, though. Maintaining a high NCAA seed is another goal.
Mid-pack: Once again, it is the trio of WIU, ORU and Denver that head the upset threats, with WIU the most consistent and ORU surging late in the season. Denver is all over the place. North Dakota is in real danger of securing the #7 seed and a likely date with State in the first round. The Lady Bizun have shown some improvement this year, but securing a #5 or #6 seed would be a big feather in their cap.
Bottom feeders: Omaha has four more chances to win a second conference game, and get the chance to play a SD team in the first round of the SLT. Fort Wayne has three more chances to do the same.
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 17, 2020 9:34:59 GMT -6
Summit MBB Standings: South Dakota State 11-2 Won 6 NEXT: @und, USD, @ndsu
North Dakota State 10-2 Won 6 NEXT: usd , @und, SDSU, Omaha South Dakota ------- 9-4 Lost 1 NEXT: NDSU, @sdsu, UND Oral Roberts ---------7-6 Won 2 NEXT: @den, WIU, PFW Omaha ---------------6-6 Won 1 North Dakota --------6-6 Won 1 Purdue Fort Wayne --5-8 Lost 2 Western Illinois -----2-11 Lost 8 Denver --------------1-12 Lost 7 The separation of the bottom tier to middle has remained, but the line separating the top and middle tiers has narrowed. USD is only two games ahead of ORU. With only three games left, maybe that is enough for USD to stay out of the 4 v 5 first round game? Our schedule will make that very hard, playing three Dakota schools, while ORU plays all of the bottom three. Yikes. The battle for the regular season title, top seed and NIT auto-berth will be a tough one, with both top contenders having almost identical remaining schedules. The winner will be well-earned.
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Post by GoYotes on Feb 17, 2020 9:48:13 GMT -6
ORU should win out so the Yotes need to win 2 of their last 3 to lock up the 3 seed. A win over NDSU on Wednesday night also locks up the 3 seed. The first tie breaker is head to head and the Yotes split with ORU. The second tie breaker is the head to head record vs the #1 team continuing down through the standings until a team gains an advantage. With a win over the Bison on Wednesday, the Yotes & ORU would both be 1-1 vs the Bison, but ORU is 0-2 vs SDSU and the Yotes already hold a W over SDSU.
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Post by Yotes on Feb 17, 2020 10:48:05 GMT -6
I'm trying to go over scenarios where ORU could get the 3 seed and it just seems incredibly unlikely. If we only beat UND then ORU has to win out, and then NDSU has to be the 1 seed. That's a lot to ask for, and honestly in that event I don't see much difference between being the 3 or the 4. As a 4 it would be UNO/UND in the first round followed by a likely matchup against NDSU in the semis. Contrast that to the much more likely scenario where NDSU is the 2 seed and USD is the 3 seed, and we are likely to draw UNO/UND in the first round followed by a likely matchup against NDSU in the semis. Zero difference.
I'm looking to shake that up though. If we play anything like we have over the last 6 weeks, sans that trip to Tulsa, I'd just about guarantee a win against NDSU. I expect the team to have their wake up call and take care of business on Wednesday. Beat NDSU and we get to play for a 2 seed in Brookings.
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Post by yotefan90 on Feb 20, 2020 22:17:38 GMT -6
Just got tougher for ORU to get the 3 seed after dropping their game in Denver in OT tonight.
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Post by elcoyote on Feb 20, 2020 23:12:02 GMT -6
I just don't understand ORU. To me they have as much or more pure physical talent as anyone but they just consistently underachieve. Of all the teams in the Summit, they're the one team that we seem to have the hardest time matching up with so hopefully we can avoid them in the tournament.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Feb 21, 2020 7:24:25 GMT -6
When it comes to the Summit League tourney the team I would want to avoid at all cost is the Jacks. In the D1 era they have never defeated them outside of Vermillion. The Coyotes have defeated the Bison and Eagles multiple times outside of Vermillion. The Bison would be the second team I would want to avoid. ORU is at best the 3rd least desirable matchup but I am not sure I would even put them there. I would probably put Omaha ahead of them as well since they have been to the tourney championship game more often than the Yotes have.
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 21, 2020 8:50:42 GMT -6
Summit MBB Standings: 1 South Dakota State 12-2 Won 7 NEXT: USD, @ndsu
2 North Dakota State 11-2 Won 7 NEXT: @und, SDSU, Omaha 3 South Dakota ------- 9-5 Lost 2 NEXT: @sdsu, UND 4 Omaha ---------------7-6 Won 2 NEXT: @wiu, UND, @ndsu 5 Oral Roberts ---------7-7 Lost 1 NEXT: WIU, PFW 6 North Dakota --------6-7 Lost 1 7 Purdue Fort Wayne --5-9 Lost 3 8 Western Illinois -----2-11 Lost 8 9 Denver --------------2-12 Won 1 mid-week update on standings. 1-seed still up in the air, but USD is officially out of the race. Season finale in Fargo might determine it. That game could theoretically affect other tie-breakers as well. USD can lock down the 3-seed win one more win. The H2H losses to NDSU prevents us moving up, the H2H wins vs Omaha prevents them from moving up. If we lose out, we could finish 4th or even 5th, although the distinction between the two won't really matter. We could even "back into" 3rd after losing out. Not ideal, but i'd take it. I'd like to be playing UND or PFW(again) in the 3v6 game, then play a revenge game vs NDSU in the 2v3. Crossing fingers for an upset on the other side. Maybe the "good" ORU shows up? Denver just made the race for the 8-seed interesting.
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 24, 2020 8:52:22 GMT -6
Updated WBB Standings:
(1) South Dakota-------15-0 Won 15
(2) South Dakota State 12-3 Lost 1
Western Illinois------9-5 Won 2 Oral Roberts---------7-7 Lost 2 Denver ---------------7-7 Won 4 North Dakota State --6-8 Won 1 North Dakota --------5-9 Lost 5
Omaha ---------------2-12 Won 1 Purdue Fort Wayne --1-13 Lost 7
So the top two seeds are locked in.
If WIU wins one more game they will lock in #3. They play @oru and @ Denver, so no guarantees.
ORU and Denver seem destined to meet again in the 4v5 game, then the winner will likely play USD. Not my prefered semifinal match-up, but it is what it is. Denver seems to have figured something out, and is on a win streak.
The ND schools are vying for who plays SDSU first round, and who would play them 2nd round. The Bison just got the big rivalry win this last weekend. At six conference wins, Collins has already out-performed Maren Walseth's last four seasons. They have a chance to get a 5-seed, which would be better than any of Walseth's five years. Really well done.
UND is on a losing streak. Not great for confidence going into the tournament. Is Brewster finally on a warm seat?
Omaha finally got their 2nd win of the season, beating PFW. Nothing locked in, but I can see them as our first round match-up. They would have the tiebreaker, should PFW decide to actually win a game.
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