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Post by Yote 53 on Jan 27, 2020 15:25:36 GMT -6
Why do you think Denver has advantages? Sure, they are located in a big city but they are also fighting with every pro team in town for visibility, not to mention CU, CSU, and Air Force for relevancy at the college level (along with Northern Colorado). Their hockey program has an advantage in that DU, CC, and Air Force are the only D1 hockey programs in the state (meaning not overshadowed by CU and CSU), and it has a long history of success and plays at the highest level in a top hockey conference.
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Post by kiyoat on Jan 27, 2020 15:28:28 GMT -6
The school I don't understand is Denver. With all the perceived advantages inherent with that school, a person would think that they'd always be among the top teams in the standings. Their men are the pits and now if the women's team slide into that abyss they could develop into the worst basketball school in the Summit. Are they that much of a hockey school? They do have highly competitive golf, soccer, lacrosse, gymnastics and volleyball teams. I have no idea why they seem to be dropping the ball in BB. Their fans certainly don't show up for volleyball or women's basketball, regardless of how good they are. When they are good at MBB they will suddenly have a good turnout. Typical Urban campus. The thing that drives me nuts every year is that many Summit teams fail to do anything in the non-conference, destroying the conference RPI, and then all of a sudden they figure things out just in time to pull an upset in conference play. SMH
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Post by kiyoat on Jan 27, 2020 15:34:04 GMT -6
Why do you think Denver has advantages? Sure, they are located in a big city but they are also fighting with every pro team in town for visibility, not to mention CU, CSU, and Air Force for relevancy at the college level (along with Northern Colorado). Their hockey program has an advantage in that DU, CC, and Air Force are the only D1 hockey programs in the state (meaning not overshadowed by CU and CSU), and it has a long history of success and plays at the highest level in a top hockey conference. I know you were directing this at ElCoyote, but ... Isn't Denver's pockets the deepest in the league? They don't have to disclose coaching salaries since they are a private, but in that anonymous survey of Summit MBB coaches this year Denver was tabbed as the "best facilities" and "best resources" in the league IIRC. That's a massive advantage. And their endowment dwarfs the other schools.
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Post by elcoyote on Jan 27, 2020 17:09:38 GMT -6
Why do you think Denver has advantages? Sure, they are located in a big city but they are also fighting with every pro team in town for visibility, not to mention CU, CSU, and Air Force for relevancy at the college level (along with Northern Colorado). Their hockey program has an advantage in that DU, CC, and Air Force are the only D1 hockey programs in the state (meaning not overshadowed by CU and CSU), and it has a long history of success and plays at the highest level in a top hockey conference. Why? Great facilities, excellent academics, money, should be able to recruit in their own back yard more so than any other Summit team and, in real estate parlance, location, location, location. Denver is a beautiful, vibrant city that's one of the most desirable places in the nation to live especially for the younger college graduate. Compare it to other Summit towns and the only one the even comes close is Omaha, but it doesn't have the Rocky Mountains in its backyard. I fully realize that Colorado as a whole is a pro sports area, but they're not competing with the Broncos or the Rockies. I'll give you the Avalanche and Nuggets, but compare costs to attend a game. CU is always crap in basketball and CSU is nothing special. Besides, what would you guess the population in say even a ten mile radius from campus would be. I don't think visibility plays a factor either. Does anyone come to USD to get their name in the Press and Dakotan?
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Post by usdcoyote on Jan 29, 2020 21:39:42 GMT -6
States men win a big road game 76-61 at oral. Freidel with a big game. 22/7/6. They certainly look like the front runners at this point.
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Post by elcoyote on Jan 30, 2020 0:11:48 GMT -6
ORU seems to do less with more every year. And really, what's up with Obanor? He tore it up last year and now a non factor in games? I don't get that at all.
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Post by kiyoat on Jan 30, 2020 12:47:01 GMT -6
Three men's and three women's games tonight, USD men's game is the latest start at 8PM. For a nice happy-hour appetizer, the Jacks women play @ WIU at 5:15 on ESPN3.
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Post by Yotes on Jan 30, 2020 17:05:16 GMT -6
I just got the email that my Summit League tournament tickets are now ready for pick up.
Someone help me out, have they said whether or not ticket holders are going to be able to renew their seats again for 2021 and 2022? I really hope they just open the whole thing to the general public, but if not I want to make sure I'm not losing my seats.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 13:37:10 GMT -6
This is a defensive stat I followed for Women's Basketball last year. Steals plus blocks. Here it is through games of 1/31/2020.
1) Nelson (Den) 53 + 34 = 87 2) Sjerven (USD) 26 + 42 = 68 3) Sanders (PFW) 20 + 39 = 59 4) Zars (WI) 15 + 37 = 52 5) Leet (UND) 7 + 43 = 50 6) Sellers (PFW) 38 + 11 = 49 6) Laupenku(PFW) 48 + 1 = 49 8) Ezeuda (Den) 40 + 8 = 48 9) Irwin (SDSU) 34 + 13 = 47 10) Murdie (OMA) 20 + 26 = 46 11) McKeever(USD) 39 + 6 = 45 12) Arens (USD) 26 + 18 = 44 12) Jensen (SDSU) 37 + 7 = 44 14) Nichols (WI) 32 + 6 = 38 15) Lippe (ORU) 34 + 2 = 36 16) Killian (OMA) 30 + 5 = 35 17) Duffy (USD) 26 + 7 = 33 17) Larson (SDSU) 13 + 20 = 33 19) Cobbins(NDSU) 29 + 3 = 32
I didn't expect to see 3 of the top 7 from Purdue Fort Wayne.
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Post by Yotes on Feb 2, 2020 17:03:05 GMT -6
Three men's and three women's games tonight, USD men's game is the latest start at 8PM. For a nice happy-hour appetizer, the Jacks women play @ WIU at 5:15 on ESPN3. I'm just now seeing WIU lost by 41 at home. They also barely beat NDSU at home following that. There is a massive drop off again after 2nd place this year...hopefully there's just as large of a gap separating 1st and 2nd
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 22:29:24 GMT -6
Blocks plus Steals updated with USD at Denver game:
1) Nelson (Den) 56 + 34 = 90 2) Sjerven (USD) 32 + 44 = 76 3) Sanders (PFW) 20 + 39 = 59 4) Zars (WI) 15 + 37 = 52 5) Ezeuda (Den) 43 + 9 = 52 6) Leet (UND) 7 + 43 = 50 7) Sellers (PFW) 38 + 11 = 49 7) Laupenku(PFW) 48 + 1 = 49 9) Irwin (SDSU) 34 + 13 = 47 10) Murdie (OMA) 20 + 26 = 46 10) McKeever(USD) 40 + 6 = 46 12) Arens (USD) 27 + 18 = 45 13) Jensen (SDSU) 37 + 7 = 44 14) Nichols (WI) 32 + 6 = 38 15) Lippe (ORU) 34 + 2 = 36 16) Killian (OMA) 30 + 5 = 35 17) Duffy (USD) 26 + 7 = 33 17) Larson (SDSU) 13 + 20 = 33 19) Cobbins(NDSU) 29 + 3 = 32
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 3, 2020 9:25:31 GMT -6
Summit WBB Standings:South Dakota-------6-0 Won 6 South Dakota State6-1 Lost 1 Western Illinois-----4-2 Won 3North Dakota-------3-3 Lost 3Oral Roberts--------3-3 Lost 1 Denver--------------2-4 Won 1 Omaha--------------1-4 Lost 3 North Dakota State 1-4 Won 1 Purdue Fort Wayne 0-5 Lost 6 WBB Standings update: South Dakota-------10-0 Won 10 South Dakota State--9-1 Won 3 Western Illinois-------6-4 Won 1 North Dakota---------5-4 Won 2 Oral Roberts----------4-5 Lost 1 North Dakota State--3-6 Lost 1 Denver----------------3-7 Lost 3Omaha----------------1-7 Lost 6Purdue Fort Wayne---1-8 Lost 2 Trending up: -USD SDSU have cleanly separated from the pack, as we expected at the start of the season. -NDSU has now gone 2-2 in the last four games, pulling ahead of Denver and solidifying their place in the middle tier. Trending down:-Denver has slip-slided away... to the back of the middle tier. -Omaha's bridge over the troubled waters of ineptitude seems to have collapsed. -Purdue Fort Wayne is still crappy after all these years, looking for 50 ways to leave the conference. *this review brought to you by Paul Simon*
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 3, 2020 9:40:09 GMT -6
Summit Men's BB Standings:North Dakota State-4-1 Won 2 South Dakota State-5-2 Lost 1 Oral Roberts---------4-2 Won 4Omaha---------------3-2 Lost 2 South Dakota--------3-3 Won 1 Purdue Fort Wayne--2-3 Lost 2 North Dakota--------2-4 Lost 4Western Illinois------2-4 Lost 1 Denver---------------1-5 Won 1 Men's standings update: South Dakota State-8-2 Won 3 North Dakota State-7-2 Won 3 South Dakota--------7-3 Won 5Omaha---------------5-3 Lost 1 Oral Roberts---------5-4 Won 1 North Dakota--------4-5 Lost 1 Purdue Fort Wayne--3-6 Lost 1 Western Illinois------2-8 Lost 5Denver---------------1-9 Lost 4
Things seem to be very gradually sorting themselves out on the men's side. Really, the only major difference from the current standings and the preseason rankings is SDSU and ORU. State has vastly over-performed expectations, and ORU has underperformed (a little). Still, nobody is more than 1.5 games ahead of anyone else, in the standings. Moving up or down should still be an option for any team.
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Post by gopheryote on Feb 6, 2020 8:40:54 GMT -6
Hagedorn:
- Given his size and shooting, does anyone know if he is planning to keep playing professionally?
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Post by captaincoyote on Feb 6, 2020 21:47:25 GMT -6
Mike Daum had more time to build up buzz. Hags has more gradually become the player he is. Also he doesn't have the kind of personality that draws attention. For example, he's probably statistically as good or better than Mooney, but Mooney was way more emotionally charged on the court.
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