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Post by usdtator on Nov 19, 2019 10:21:41 GMT -6
We all know our defense is bad. Something that needs to be fixed. That's why before the game I said our only chance was to get some turnovers and turn this into a shootout. That didn't happen. The same thing applies for this week against State. The last game if the season we're not just going to turn into a lockdown defense. We're going to need to make it a shootout with timely turnovers we can convert to points. Then take the off season and retool the defensive side of the ball. I'd put a high priority on recruiting defensive players, especially the front 7. Emphasize defense because we're going nowhere in this conference unless we become a good defensive team. This probably belongs in the "Depth" thread, but I wanted to quote Yote 53: Looking at the 21 2020 commits we have coming in (coyotecrazie5 has not added the commit yet from last night), less than half are defensive players. I don't think anyone would debate you that we NEED to recruit on the defensive side of the ball. Our OL has significantly improved over last year and is very young. There appears to be a good crop of young OL and we have more signing. Does Johansen need a year or two to bring in "his" guys to get the defense where it needs to be...? Hard to tell by the fact that we don't have a significant push to bring in more defensive players. Also, if he doesn't have the "guys" to run the defense he wants, he should be tailoring the defense at this time to be successful with the guys we have, all the while bringing everyone up-to-speed on his defensive schemes. Fundamentals seem to be the big issue as well. Tackling techniques, putting guys in the right place to make a play are both things that can be taught and coached. I am anticipating a big push to bring in JUCOs and transfer defensive players considering the current recruiting class is still tilted toward offensive guys.
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Post by bisonbacker on Nov 19, 2019 18:02:39 GMT -6
It was a fluke but you keep telling yourself it wasn't I never said I had one damn thing to do with NDSU winning but again think what you want. As you can see by my posting so "regularly here" read that with sarcasm if you can I came over out of morbid curiosity to see what was being said and I found your fans lamenting the loss and discussing ancient history and claiming it to be the norm. If you want to be mad don't get mad at NDSU fans get mad at your own administration/coaching staff. Carry on. "Nuff said" It wasn’t a fluke, rest assured. I couldn’t remember the stats from that game so I went back and looked. Actually it was an ass kicking. I don’t hang my hat on that game and I’m thoroughly pissed we have regressed, so be clear about that. But don’t come on board and make provocative statements rubbing our face in your crap and make irrational statements like you did. The stats clearly show it wasn’t a fluke PLUS we had 2 turnovers and you had ZERO. Good luck to your team the balance of the year. Keep doing your thing I decided to go look back to 2010 and look at the scores and game stats. I didn't bother to go any further as it wouldn't help your "it wasn't a fluke" argument. Since 2010 NDSU games against USD you guys won that one fluke game by 3 points. In the games since 2010 NDSU has scored a total of 387 points to USD's 110. You take from that what you want I guess. Where I come from there is a name for that Sad thing is the total for NDSU could have been much higher had Kleiman not taken his foot off the gas but our backups got time in those games. Happy Thanksgiving to you all.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 19, 2019 18:26:07 GMT -6
It wasn’t a fluke, rest assured. I couldn’t remember the stats from that game so I went back and looked. Actually it was an ass kicking. I don’t hang my hat on that game and I’m thoroughly pissed we have regressed, so be clear about that. But don’t come on board and make provocative statements rubbing our face in your crap and make irrational statements like you did. The stats clearly show it wasn’t a fluke PLUS we had 2 turnovers and you had ZERO. Good luck to your team the balance of the year. Keep doing your thing I decided to go look back to 2010 and look at the scores and game stats. I didn't bother to go any further as it wouldn't help your "it wasn't a fluke" argument. Since 2010 NDSU games against USD you guys won that one fluke game by 3 points. In the games since 2010 NDSU has scored a total of 387 points to USD's 110. You take from that what you want I guess. Where I come from there is a name for that Sad thing is the total for NDSU could have been much higher had Kleiman not taken his foot off the gas but our backups got time in those games. Happy Thanksgiving to you all. Get a life man.
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Post by elcoyote on Nov 19, 2019 19:29:00 GMT -6
I decided to go look back to 2010 and look at the scores and game stats. I didn't bother to go any further as it wouldn't help your "it wasn't a fluke" argument. Since 2010 NDSU games against USD you guys won that one fluke game by 3 points. In the games since 2010 NDSU has scored a total of 387 points to USD's 110. You take from that what you want I guess. Where I come from there is a name for that Sad thing is the total for NDSU could have been much higher had Kleiman not taken his foot off the gas but our backups got time in those games. Happy Thanksgiving to you all. Get a life man. Give him a break. It's the only thing this guy has going for him.
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Post by bisonbacker on Nov 19, 2019 21:47:29 GMT -6
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Post by sdyotefan on Nov 19, 2019 22:09:30 GMT -6
No doubt the bizon have build a DII power in FB followed by an FCS power. The question for bisonbacker and the ndsu fans is where do they go from here? Do they remain a big fish in the pond or move on to the FBS lake where they would be in the bottom third of teams? So far they have chosen to stay--they like winning. When will their fans get bored? Will they go for the FBS gusto or just want to rack up the wins? I think they like the wins so much they won't want to lose that and will stay FCS and not really take the bigger challenge! Kind've chicken in a way!
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Post by elcoyote on Nov 19, 2019 22:37:15 GMT -6
Very poor effort and doesn't make sense. I expected a much better. You're proving our point for us.
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Post by bisoninnwmn on Nov 20, 2019 6:47:43 GMT -6
No doubt the bizon have build a DII power in FB followed by an FCS power. The question for bisonbacker and the ndsu fans is where do they go from here? Do they remain a big fish in the pond or move on to the FBS lake where they would be in the bottom third of teams? So far they have chosen to stay--they like winning. When will their fans get bored? Will they go for the FBS gusto or just want to rack up the wins? I think they like the wins so much they won't want to lose that and will stay FCS and not really take the bigger challenge! Kind've chicken in a way! Well for one, you would need a conference invite and no conference is going to do that. The MAC? No, NDSU is too far west of their footprint. The MW? No, NDSU is too far east of their footprint. Going independent is a death sentence. Liberty can do it because they have a lot of $$. Helps having something like 100K online students to draw money from and people donate money to that school because it is a "religious school". NDSU would have to at least double their athletic budget to compete, increase coaches salaries and probably add a women's sport or two to be in complacence with Title IX with the increase in 22 football scholarships. NDSU is in the Big 12 for wrestling but will never be invited to join for all sports. Why? Travel all the way to Fargo in a small media market? What does NDSU offer to the Big 12 or even the Big 10. Heck, Gophers annually say no to a football game and that is coming right from out AD. "Chicken in a way".......where is the money coming from? What conference is going to invite NDSU? NDSU doesn't have Liberty money. Rack up wins? Sure, I love it as a fan. But this "run" is no fluke. NDSU has tradition, culture, great coaching, winning program.....What kid would not want to come and play for the Bison? Just listen to players give interviews, they talk about respecting the tradition of NDSU and playing for the past players and playing for your brother beside you. You do not "create" this in a few years. This has taken decades. Just saying..."we are going to move up"....is not feasible or makes any sense.
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Post by bisoninnwmn on Nov 20, 2019 6:58:04 GMT -6
Very poor effort and doesn't make sense. I expected a much better. You're proving our point for us. Bisonbacker is right. Even if you guys want to admit it or not, that USD win was a fluke. Most the games in the D1 era between the 2 teams have been blowout wins. Is that not a fact? I would say it isn't a "fluke" if there would have been games where the score was close or USD has won multiple games. Even the game played in USD's playoff year was a complete blowout also. USD has a lot of work to do to become a top Valley team consistently. Watch UND struggle when they come into the league next year.
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Post by golfingyote on Nov 20, 2019 8:26:17 GMT -6
what a dumb argument. NDSU has absolutely owned us and a lot of other teams in the conference, but I do not get why this clown show is calling it a "Fluke". USD did what very few teams could do against NDSU over their run and won the battle in the trenches. Just absolutely out executed NDSU and exploited their inability to stop the zone read in that game. Are you guys that arrogant that you cant own up to being outplayed 1 time? the 700 yards you put up on us this year, while highly alarming for us, has no impact on the outcome of the 2015 game.
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Post by kiyoat on Nov 20, 2019 9:03:59 GMT -6
what a dumb argument. NDSU has absolutely owned us and a lot of other teams in the conference, but I do not get why this clown show is calling it a "Fluke". USD did what very few teams could do against NDSU over their run and won the battle in the trenches. Just absolutely out executed NDSU and exploited their inability to stop the zone read in that game. Are you guys that arrogant that you cant own up to being outplayed 1 time? the 700 yards you put up on us this year, while highly alarming for us, has no impact on the outcome of the 2015 game. Clearly this is a case of moving goalposts. Calling the game a "fluke" in the context of the overall D-1 series between our teams is accurate, but not relevant to the actual point Coyote fans were making. The fact that on THAT day in THAT season, the game was absolutely not a fluke. It was a straight-up win. Trying to win an argument by changing the parameters is a pretty dishonest debate tactic. We see it all the time in sports and politics, but IMHO it only makes the person look weak, desperate and petty. Things pretty unbecoming of such an accomplished program as Bison Football. Carry on.
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Post by bisoninnwmn on Nov 20, 2019 12:36:44 GMT -6
what a dumb argument. NDSU has absolutely owned us and a lot of other teams in the conference, but I do not get why this clown show is calling it a "Fluke". USD did what very few teams could do against NDSU over their run and won the battle in the trenches. Just absolutely out executed NDSU and exploited their inability to stop the zone read in that game. Are you guys that arrogant that you cant own up to being outplayed 1 time? the 700 yards you put up on us this year, while highly alarming for us, has no impact on the outcome of the 2015 game. Clearly this is a case of moving goalposts. Calling the game a "fluke" in the context of the overall D-1 series between our teams is accurate, but not relevant to the actual point Coyote fans were making. The fact that on THAT day in THAT season, the game was absolutely not a fluke. It was a straight-up win. Trying to win an argument by changing the parameters is a pretty dishonest debate tactic. We see it all the time in sports and politics, but IMHO it only makes the person look weak, desperate and petty. Things pretty unbecoming of such an accomplished program as Bison Football. Carry on. Ya, on that day the Bison lost, I'm not arguing that. Indiana State beat the Bison. YSU beat the Bison. Montana, SDSU, JMU and UNI. Bison lost. Looking weak and unbecoming? Get over yourself. This is a fan board and that is all. Hang your hat on that "win" if that is what it takes. But be ready for the next 3 years to look like this year in this series between the schools because this Bison team is very young: 14 seniors 19 juniors 26 sophomores 58 RFR and true FR
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Post by nccyote on Nov 20, 2019 12:57:50 GMT -6
Clearly this is a case of moving goalposts. Calling the game a "fluke" in the context of the overall D-1 series between our teams is accurate, but not relevant to the actual point Coyote fans were making. The fact that on THAT day in THAT season, the game was absolutely not a fluke. It was a straight-up win. Trying to win an argument by changing the parameters is a pretty dishonest debate tactic. We see it all the time in sports and politics, but IMHO it only makes the person look weak, desperate and petty. Things pretty unbecoming of such an accomplished program as Bison Football. Carry on. Ya, on that day the Bison lost, I'm not arguing that. Indiana State beat the Bison. YSU beat the Bison. Montana, SDSU, JMU and UNI. Bison lost. Looking weak and unbecoming? Get over yourself. This is a fan board and that is all. Hang your hat on that "win" if that is what it takes. But be ready for the next 3 years to look like this year in this series between the schools because this Bison team is very young: 14 seniors 19 juniors 26 sophomores 58 RFR and true FR Cool, man.
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Post by kiyoat on Nov 20, 2019 13:24:09 GMT -6
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Post by Yotes on Nov 23, 2019 22:23:39 GMT -6
I wonder how many people actually think the Coyotes will beat SDSU next week. Not sure, but clearly those people are a bunch of rubes.
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