Bring Back the Jug!

[usdtator]

My guess is that Stig is hoping to keep the trophy after he retires and add it to his collection of antiques at home. That's where the rub lies with me. It is an antique, donated by the family of the oldest pharmacy in SD (that existed before SD was a State). He should not be able to keep something of that kind of value. If nothing else, if it's not going to continue to be exchanged between the schools, it should be in a State museum for posterity sake.

The argument of "we didn't even know it existed, therefore, we don't really care about it" holds no water.

A friend of mine made a very good argument to me last night, "If a long lost wealthy relative you didn't know existed died and was planning to leave you the bulk of their wealth, would you turn it down or feel you weren't entitled to it because you didn't know them or knew they existed?"

[kiyoat]

Some Twitter support:

... and here's the kicker.  A USD Football dad....

[kiyoat]

Seems like there's something missing from this photo.....

not sure what that might be....

[usdtator]

kiyoat, stole your idea and ran with it!

[captaincoyote]

If we want to make a splash, we need to do something disruptive (but not destructive). I'm thinking we need to convince some students to make and hang a large banner (a bed sheet should do the trick while adding a traditional college touch) on states stadium over the break!

[usdtator]

For those of you who venture into the fantasy world of the bunny boards, has the LBJ been mentioned over there?

Wondering what disillusioned thoughts they are having on the issue?

[gopheryote]

Dec 12, 2019 15:40:38 GMT -6 captaincoyote said:

If we want to make a splash, we need to do something disruptive (but not destructive). I'm thinking we need to convince some students to make and hang a large banner (a bed sheet should do the trick while adding a traditional college touch) on states stadium over the break!

Not worth it. It is well documented that no one sees that stadium after mid-September.

[captaincoyote]

Dec 13, 2019 11:55:04 GMT -6 gopheryote said:

Dec 12, 2019 15:40:38 GMT -6 captaincoyote said:

If we want to make a splash, we need to do something disruptive (but not destructive). I'm thinking we need to convince some students to make and hang a large banner (a bed sheet should do the trick while adding a traditional college touch) on states stadium over the break!

Not worth it. It is well documented that no one sees that stadium after mid-September.

😂🤣

[kiyoat]

How about missing posters?

Missing:

Roy C Davis
Little Brown Jug

Last seen: Nov 16, 2016 - in the hands of ...........

If you have any information on its wherabouts, please contact the rightful owners:

USD Coyote Football team

1-605-555-2421

(and use the photo of Stig and the Jug)

8x10 Flyers are cheap, easy to smuggle into places and can be placed just about anywhere...........

[kiyoat]

I'd suggest potentially both campuses. Our leaders could or should be asking for it, too. Obviously they haven't.

I don't know what laws are out there about flyer distribution. Maybe one of the legal minds on here knows if there is any issue there.

[kiyoat]

The story of a long lost rivalry trophy that was finally won back after two decades, ... Only to be conveniently "forgotten" again is a compelling and interesting one, don't you think?

If the local media tries to bury the lead, ... I'm sure there are national media that might be interested in this story... If not ESPN, there are plenty of other web-based national sports news sites that would eat this up.

The Jacks loved the national attention from college game day. I don't think they will love this story getting out. It paints them in a less favorable light.

[kiyoat]

Here's an example, or object lesson from a couple of little schools to our south and east.
From Wikipedia:

The origin of the $5 Bits of Broken Chair Trophy is rooted in November 2014 banter between the Twitter accounts for Minnesota mascot Goldy Gopher and "Faux Pelini",
[...]
eventually Goldy created a real trophy, which was brought to the 2014 game in Lincoln.
[...]
It received widespread acceptance from both fanbases, but it has been rejected by both universities.
[...]
Although Nebraska distanced itself from the trophy, in the weeks following the Cornhuskers' 2015 victory, the chair was seen with players and coaches, and made several appearances on the school's social media pages.
[...]
In 2016, after Nebraska defeated Minnesota in Lincoln, the trophy seemingly disappeared. Inquiries to the Nebraska and Minnesota athletic departments revealed that neither school formally recognized the trophy in the first place. This essentially ended the $5 Bits of Broken Chair Trophy in any major capacity.[10]
[...]
On September 12, 2017, it was announced, via Twitter, that Nebraska and Minnesota will once again play for the $5 Bits of Broken Chair, likely as an unofficial trophy game.
[...]
The trophy will serve as the focal point of fundraisers for Nebraska's Team Jack Foundation and Minnesota's Masonic Children's Hospital.

Here's from when the trophy was"lost"
www.offtackleempire.com/2017/7/25/16026752/mike-riley-answers-questions-about-the-5-bits-of-broken-chair-trophy

www.change.org/p/save-the-5-bits-of-broken-chair-trophy

And a couple of retrospective articles after it was "found"
www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/college-football/2016/11/11/13586790/broken-chair-trophy-https://www.forums.gopherhole.com/boards/threads/time-for-the-u-to-recognize-the-broken-chair-trophy.90506/-minnesota

athlonsports.com/college-football/how-5-bits-broken-chair-trophy-affects-nebraska-football-and-minnesota-football

And a more recent discussion on the Gooherhole fan board:
www.forums.gopherhole.com/boards/threads/time-for-the-u-to-recognize-the-broken-chair-trophy.90506/

[kiyoat]

[kiyoat]

Other similar lost trophy stories, if you like history, and are not afraid to read entire articles:

Notre Dame - Northwestern: The Shillelagh (ND's oldest; 1931-1965) rediscovered in private collection 2016
(article)

Oregon-Oregon State: Platypus trophy (1959)(rediscovered in water polo closet 1986, lost again)(2007-present, unofficial)
(article)

Minnesota-Wisconsin: Slab of Bacon (1930-1943)
(article)

Arizona-Arizona State: Territorial Cup (oldest in NCAA; 1900)(rediscovered in church basement 1983)(1995-2001 unofficial)(2001-present, official)
(article)

[kiyoat]

Age of the LBJ (1927)

Not only is the USD-SDSU the tenth-oldest football rivalry in the country, and the 2nd oldest non-Ivy league rivalry, and the oldest U-stateU rivalry, ...

The Roy C Davis Little Brown Jug is also one of the oldest rivalry trophies in all of college football.

I can't find a comprehensive article on this subject, but Wikipedia has a pretty comprehensive list of football rivalries and their trophies (all divisions)

HERE

It will just take some time to go through those listed trophies, and their years.  It's older than almost all of the most well-known CFB rivalry trophies.