yote18
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Post by yote18 on Nov 4, 2020 10:18:46 GMT -6
Conference schedule is out. And for those keeping track, every USD/SDSU game across all sports so far are being played in Brookings.
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Post by kiyoat on Nov 4, 2020 10:59:55 GMT -6
I guess all those games in Brookings is a justified handicapping, given the historic beatdown the Jacks received in the Corn Showdown Series last season. They needed some help, and got it from the league.
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Post by gopheryote on Nov 4, 2020 11:39:55 GMT -6
Can someone clarify a conference schedule question - Are these men/women double-headers on back to back nights? If it is, does that really make more sense than mirror scheduling? Grouping the teams (40 people traveling together vs. 20) seems worse, and fans together with those players for 4 hours instead of 2 also seems worse. But I'm probably missing something, thus my question.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2020 11:40:07 GMT -6
I have heard, although I don't remember where, that USD, SDSU, UND and NDSU were all having issues scheduling games. Just speculating, but I would think that given both the current covid situation and the relative remoteness of the two states might be contributing factors. I would hope something could get done with the likes of Nebraska, Creighton, Iowa State, Drake, UNI and Minnesota since they're all D1 school bus trips. Creighton WBB has released their non-conference and they're playing SDSU and not USD. gocreighton.com/sports/womens-basketball/schedule
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Post by elcoyote on Nov 4, 2020 11:56:15 GMT -6
I have heard, although I don't remember where, that USD, SDSU, UND and NDSU were all having issues scheduling games. Just speculating, but I would think that given both the current covid situation and the relative remoteness of the two states might be contributing factors. I would hope something could get done with the likes of Nebraska, Creighton, Iowa State, Drake, UNI and Minnesota since they're all D1 school bus trips. Creighton WBB has released their non-conference and they're playing SDSU and not USD. gocreighton.com/sports/womens-basketball/scheduleProbably got tired of being owned by USD.
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Post by GoYotes on Nov 4, 2020 12:38:25 GMT -6
Based on prior years, this year would have called for USD to visit Creighton. Guessing with the late start to the season that the 2 teams could not find an open date that worked for both teams. Creighton is playing at UNI & SDSU during the same dates that USD is rumored to be playing in the Bad Boys (Girls) Mower Classic at the Pentagon.
Guessing the Creighton USD game will be back on the schedule next year. Both teams are always competitive and always have a good number of visiting fans that make the trip to Omaha or Vermillion.
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Post by coyote70 on Nov 4, 2020 13:13:28 GMT -6
Two things come to mind when looking at the issue of the women's and men's teams playing both their games at Brookings this season. One is that it is possible the crowd won't be large due to Chinese virus restrictions, vaccine or no. Two is maybe, if life is fair, both games next year will be played in Vermillion -?
Okay, we know life isn't fair. Regarding thought #2 I was using logic but was only joking anyway. Where is there any logic in scheduling games this season? It's a bit nutty everywhere. As for thought #1, I guess we'll just have to stay tuned.
Maybe someone has already posted comments along these lines, but I think we can do well in all four games if we are ready mentally and the crowd, if there is any, is reduced significantly. Come to think of it, a reduced crowd at the league tournament could help us, too.
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Post by sdyotefan on Nov 4, 2020 13:21:08 GMT -6
If life was even a little fair the bunnies would be limited to 60% of whatever capacity is with 40% saved for USD. Same should be done on all Summit games even if a lot of travel is unlikely for most games. Three days before games unpurchased tickets could be released to whoever.
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Post by hoopsmom on Nov 4, 2020 14:10:22 GMT -6
Can someone clarify a conference schedule question - Are these men/women double-headers on back to back nights? If it is, does that really make more sense than mirror scheduling? Grouping the teams (40 people traveling together vs. 20) seems worse, and fans together with those players for 4 hours instead of 2 also seems worse. But I'm probably missing something, thus my question. They are playing doubleheaders, on back to back days. So if it’s a Friday Saturday, the women will play Friday and Saturday, and the men will also play Friday and Saturday, all at the same school. That reduces travel and testing for all involved. From the schedules that I have seen, quite a few conferences are doing this.
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Post by kiyoat on Nov 4, 2020 16:59:43 GMT -6
Guessing the Creighton USD game will be back on the schedule next year. Both teams are always competitive and always have a good number of visiting fans that make the trip to Omaha or Vermillion. Yeah, I actually have to give Creighton (Coach Jim Flanery) some credit for continuing to schedule us in recent years. Drake, too. We will likely never see Iowa State on our WBB schedule again, as long as Fennelly is the coach. That dude does not like to schedule mid-majors that have a chance of beating him. We would have seen us playing Nebraska already if they were going to. I doubt that will happen. I think Minnesota is done getting their tails kicked in by us in "not-so-secret" scrimmages, too. Maybe these issues are compounding our scheduling right now. The fearless top teams that would normally be seeking us out (South Carolina, etc.) are too far away geographically with this Covid 19 crisis. Just a guess. Hopefully we will find out soon who is on the schedule.
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Post by elcoyote on Nov 4, 2020 17:22:02 GMT -6
Two things come to mind when looking at the issue of the women's and men's teams playing both their games at Brookings this season. One is that it is possible the crowd won't be large due to Chinese virus restrictions, vaccine or no. Two is maybe, if life is fair, both games next year will be played in Vermillion -? Okay, we know life isn't fair. Regarding thought #2 I was using logic but was only joking anyway. Where is there any logic in scheduling games this season? It's a bit nutty everywhere. As for thought #1, I guess we'll just have to stay tuned. Maybe someone has already posted comments along these lines, but I think we can do well in all four games if we are ready mentally and the crowd, if there is any, is reduced significantly. Come to think of it, a reduced crowd at the league tournament could help us, too. How is the crowd going to be reduced when the tickets have already been sold several years ahead of time? Who would they tell couldn't attend? Will they refund money? Nice business model for the Summit, but it's a problem when a fan has to buy their seats that far ahead of the event. If this Covid thing is still blowing up I doubt I'd attend if they allow a full house, but then I'm eating the cost on some pricey tickets.
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Post by kiyoat on Nov 4, 2020 18:27:54 GMT -6
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Post by kiyoat on Nov 4, 2020 18:37:54 GMT -6
More quotes from ADDH:
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Post by kiyoat on Nov 4, 2020 18:48:58 GMT -6
THayer: (paraphrased) does this at least make you feel better about the budget, when we don't have to travel to Oral Roberts?
ADDH:
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Post by gopheryote on Nov 5, 2020 16:30:59 GMT -6
Can someone clarify a conference schedule question - Are these men/women double-headers on back to back nights? If it is, does that really make more sense than mirror scheduling? Grouping the teams (40 people traveling together vs. 20) seems worse, and fans together with those players for 4 hours instead of 2 also seems worse. But I'm probably missing something, thus my question. They are playing doubleheaders, on back to back days. So if it’s a Friday Saturday, the women will play Friday and Saturday, and the men will also play Friday and Saturday, all at the same school. That reduces travel and testing for all involved. From the schedules that I have seen, quite a few conferences are doing this. Thanks! I'm not going to fight it, but I don't see a difference in exposure with the doubleheaders. The same number of people will be traveling the same number of days if it was mirror scheduling instead of double headers. The only savings I can see is number of tests for stadium workers (and even that is iffy). I'm guessing we are still sending 2 buses to every game. I can see how that may change if you charter 1 plane for both teams, but that is pretty small number at this level.
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