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Post by Men's League Waterboy on Mar 29, 2020 11:52:30 GMT -6
When you compare this incoming class to those previous during the Coach P. era, it seems like the bar gets raised just a bit higher with each group of talent coming in. I for one, have a hard time grasping the concept that next year's team, or the year after, might be better than what we all witnessed this year. What a great time to be a Coyote fan! This is like being at State and thinking this year’s team wasn’t going to skip a beat. It’s highly, ridiculously unlikely that you lose the on-court production and leadership of Duffy, McKeever and Frederick and get BETTER the next season. The Yotes are going to be good. Just like the Jacks stayed good. But anybody thinking they’re going to get “better” after this year’s losses and then next year’s (Lamb, Sjerven, Arens, Korngable, Kunzer) knows way more about these incoming recruits and their future impact than anybody else.
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Post by announcerbob on Mar 29, 2020 13:10:49 GMT -6
Men's League Waterboy, it appears someone stepped on a nerve with their positivity of future classes when the current group hasn't even graduated. Future classes will simply be different. They will have to develop their own identity and roles. The Yotes will have to find where 40 ppg, 13 rpg and roughly 9 apg is coming from. Do I expect to go 30-2 and 16-0 in conference - NO! But I do expect the returning and future players to compete like badgers on the defensive end of the court and find their roles on offense to allow the team a chance to win their fair share of games. I believe everyone loves this year's team and what they have accomplished during their careers. Now it is time to see how future teams make their own mark on the Yote Program.
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Post by olifer on Mar 29, 2020 14:05:10 GMT -6
When you compare this incoming class to those previous during the Coach P. era, it seems like the bar gets raised just a bit higher with each group of talent coming in. I for one, have a hard time grasping the concept that next year's team, or the year after, might be better than what we all witnessed this year. What a great time to be a Coyote fan! This is like being at State and thinking this year’s team wasn’t going to skip a beat. It’s highly, ridiculously unlikely that you lose the on-court production and leadership of Duffy, McKeever and Frederick and get BETTER the next season. The Yotes are going to be good. Just like the Jacks stayed good. But anybody thinking they’re going to get “better” after this year’s losses and then next year’s (Lamb, Sjerven, Arens, Korngable, Kunzer) knows way more about these incoming recruits and their future impact than anybody else. Forgive me if my earlier post sounded like I was suggesting that the 2019-2020 team was lacking in any area and that future teams might be able to improve the game. My comment was intended to suggest that the incoming recruits are all very talented and will hopefully continue the success that we've seen in the past few years. I would be one of the last people that would take away anything that this current group of young ladies has accomplished.
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Post by Yotes on Mar 29, 2020 14:10:32 GMT -6
When you compare this incoming class to those previous during the Coach P. era, it seems like the bar gets raised just a bit higher with each group of talent coming in. I for one, have a hard time grasping the concept that next year's team, or the year after, might be better than what we all witnessed this year. What a great time to be a Coyote fan! This is like being at State and thinking this year’s team wasn’t going to skip a beat. It’s highly, ridiculously unlikely that you lose the on-court production and leadership of Duffy, McKeever and Frederick and get BETTER the next season. The Yotes are going to be good. Just like the Jacks stayed good. But anybody thinking they’re going to get “better” after this year’s losses and then next year’s (Lamb, Sjerven, Arens, Korngable, Kunzer) knows way more about these incoming recruits and their future impact than anybody else. I, for one, don't think it's remotely reasonable to ever expect a team this good ever again. Not even close. 30-2 is a mark that will stand for the rest of my (hopefully many) years.
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Post by easmus on Mar 29, 2020 14:18:01 GMT -6
I guess I hope we go 31-1 or 32-0. So I hope we do have a better team coming in the future.
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Post by announcerbob on Mar 29, 2020 15:41:50 GMT -6
I have to agree with Easmus in that I HOPE we go 31-1 or 32-0 but do not necessarily EXPECT it to happen!!!
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Post by elcoyote on Mar 29, 2020 16:09:34 GMT -6
When you compare this incoming class to those previous during the Coach P. era, it seems like the bar gets raised just a bit higher with each group of talent coming in. I for one, have a hard time grasping the concept that next year's team, or the year after, might be better than what we all witnessed this year. What a great time to be a Coyote fan! This is like being at State and thinking this year’s team wasn’t going to skip a beat. It’s highly, ridiculously unlikely that you lose the on-court production and leadership of Duffy, McKeever and Frederick and get BETTER the next season. The Yotes are going to be good. Just like the Jacks stayed good. But anybody thinking they’re going to get “better” after this year’s losses and then next year’s (Lamb, Sjerven, Arens, Korngable, Kunzer) knows way more about these incoming recruits and their future impact than anybody else. I don't think "better" is the right terminology. Hard to improve on Summit League perfection and this year's team was simply about as good as it's ever going to get. They fully realized their potential which is an awesome thing to witness. That's not to say that future teams won't have the physical ability to be as competitive on a national scale as this year's team was. They'll be very good to outstanding talentwise in the future, but it also remains to be seen how these recruits develop as a team. I do have confidence that this coaching staff will get the best out of them, both physically and emotionally. One thing that can't be underestimated about this year's team was the synergy and sheer joy they displayed on and off the court. That was truly something special and speaks to the fact that this is a complete program that develops the whole person.
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Post by easmus on Mar 29, 2020 19:08:06 GMT -6
With any luck some of the teams in the league get better so the RPI isn’t so crappy and we play better competition leading to a loss or two but better overall.
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Post by Men's League Waterboy on Mar 29, 2020 19:42:27 GMT -6
It has nothing to do with a “nerve” or anything else. It’s just reality. You’re talking about replacing 3,600 career points next year. League player of the year. Arguably the best perimeter defender in the conference along with probably the most versatile defender in the conference. Assist leader. Sixth woman of the year, instant offense on the block off the bench. So many big shots it’s hard to count.
They’ve got some great players returning. They’re going to be well led by a great senior class. Obviously well coached. But it puts unnecessary pressure and expectation on those returning to honestly think they’ll be BETTER next year. It’s just not realistic or productive.
They’ll be good. They’re going to roll a lot of Summit teams again. They might even be great.
But the chances they honestly are BETTER this year or next are really remote. And nobody should put those kinds of expectations on them. Let them play, develop and be what they are.
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Post by kiyoat on Mar 30, 2020 6:32:41 GMT -6
With any luck some of the teams in the league get better so the RPI isn’t so crappy and we play better competition leading to a loss or two but better overall. Agreed. AJ isn't going anywhere, so the Jacks should always be good to great, which is good for the league and the rivalry. No idea what the future holds for Denver WBB, but Turgeon has proven to be a decent coach. If Gravina can get some more talent he can be dangerous. Collins looks to have the Bison competitive in the next few years. UND and UNO did the right thing starting over. Cussens has been good in the past, but will lose some good seniors. UMKC is on an upswing. Should be better than departing PFW. In short, the Summit should be better soon. Would be hard to be worse.
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Post by announcerbob on Mar 30, 2020 8:20:13 GMT -6
I have to agree with you wholeheartedly Men's League Waterboy as I said in my previous posts. My hopes and expectations are not necessarily the same thing!! Thanks for posting!!!
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Post by gopheryote on Mar 30, 2020 16:14:25 GMT -6
I think the 20/21 team - on paper - has a good chance to in the in 'at large' consideration again. They don't have to play against the 19/20 Yotes team, so I don't think that comparison is relevant.
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Post by kiyoat on Mar 31, 2020 8:50:15 GMT -6
I think the 20/21 team - on paper - has a good chance to be in 'at large' consideration again. They don't have to play against the 19/20 Yotes team, so I don't think that comparison is relevant. I agree. While the Jacks will benefit greatly bringing Selland and Theisen back from injury, and Burckhard will be in her third year starting, they will also lose their best PG and the versatility of Larson. I still don't see an elite guard on their roster yet, so my thoughts are that they will be similar next year to this year's team. Worse if Selland can't' stay healthy. The rest of the league will still be somewhat down, IMO. I could see NDSU under Collins take the next step, but that would still just put them in the middle of the pack. He needs another recruiting cycle to really elevate things. Two new coaches in the Summit, lots of departing seniors all around the league. I'll be interested to see how some of the veteran coaches work the transfer market this off-season. In short, USD/SDSU will still be 1A and 1B with a big gap in 2021. I like our chances to be A rather than B, but I don't think the wins will be a given. Should be some great battles ahead. I'll be very interested to see what Coach P and A.J. do with non-conference scheduling, too. Both teams now have the clout to consistently get the top teams, but I wonder if either of them dial it back just a little bit. The Jacks hurt their RPI a little with that tremendously brutal slate this last Fall. OTOH, playing teams like Drake, UNI and Creighton are SO good for fan interest and regional recruiting. Is this the year we schedule Nebraska? Williams has been wisely avoiding us, so maybe not. We may have seen the last of the Gophers, Cyclones and Huskers for a while. On to bigger fish.
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Post by elcoyote on Mar 31, 2020 9:59:51 GMT -6
I don't think Minnesota, Iowa State and especially Nebraska touch us with a ten foot pole. I just hope we can get the big dogs to do a home and home with us. Is South Carolina coming to Vermillion next season? It would be epic to even just see a team like that play.
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Post by usdguy99 on Mar 31, 2020 14:40:09 GMT -6
I don't think Minnesota, Iowa State and especially Nebraska touch us with a ten foot pole. I just hope we can get the big dogs to do a home and home with us. Is South Carolina coming to Vermillion next season? It would be epic to even just see a team like that play. From what I understand, South Carolina will be making their home and home appearance next season.
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