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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 2, 2022 2:59:22 GMT -6
I am not sure Sjerven is technically the best player in the Summit League (she might be) but she is gonna be the toughest player to replace in the league and by that definition I think she is the most valuable. Sjerven is also so deeply embedded in Jacks fans heads and that alone has to be like getting votes for MVP.
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Post by summitfandom on Mar 3, 2022 12:33:27 GMT -6
Let's try this as an exercise before the all-conference list comes out. You are putting together an all-star Summit team to compete in a national tournament (for a million dollars LOL). You get to choose 10 players. 1. Sjerven -no other post player in the league comes close. In a class by herself. 2. Selland - she has the size and skill to play 2-5. Athletic, smart, everything. Without the injury she's MVP. 3. Lamb - Also an MVP level player on a team where she doesn't have to always carry the team (but often does). Hard-nosed, clutch player. 4. Meyer - Does everything a true point guard is supposed to do. Surprisingly effective for a Freshman. 5. Korngable - swiss-army-knife guard. on another team she would be a featured player in every game, stuffing stats. 6. Irwin - elite defender, and often great offensively, too. Nice size. Like Liv, she would be a featured stat-stuffing player elsewhere. 7. Ezeudu - probably the second-best true center in the league. (zars 3rd?) 8. Borowicz - elite shooter that can score on all three levels. 9. Alnatas - well-rounded guard that is always a scoring threat. 10. Krull - Like Meyer, a do-everything PG. Probably a worse scorer but a better defender. Only thing I change on this list is the inclusion of C Brooklyn McDavid from KC over Ezeudu. I think she may sneak into a first team all conference this year. Was definitely newcomer of the year and a big reason they surprised people and finished third. Other than that I agree the SD schools have DEEP talent.
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Post by kiyoat on Mar 3, 2022 12:37:06 GMT -6
Only thing I change on this list is the inclusion of C Brooklyn McDavid from KC over Ezeudu. I think she may sneak into a first team all conference this year. Was definitely newcomer of the year and a big reason they surprised people and finished third. Other than that I agree the SD schools have DEEP talent. weren't the Roos picked 3rd in the preseason poll? I wouldn't say they surprised anyone.
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Post by summitfandom on Mar 3, 2022 12:40:54 GMT -6
Let's try this as an exercise before the all-conference list comes out. You are putting together an all-star Summit team to compete in a national tournament (for a million dollars LOL). You get to choose 10 players. 1. Sjerven -no other post player in the league comes close. In a class by herself. 2. Selland - she has the size and skill to play 2-5. Athletic, smart, everything. Without the injury she's MVP. 3. Lamb - Also an MVP level player on a team where she doesn't have to always carry the team (but often does). Hard-nosed, clutch player. 4. Meyer - Does everything a true point guard is supposed to do. Surprisingly effective for a Freshman. 5. Korngable - swiss-army-knife guard. on another team she would be a featured player in every game, stuffing stats. 6. Irwin - elite defender, and often great offensively, too. Nice size. Like Liv, she would be a featured stat-stuffing player elsewhere. 7. Ezeudu - probably the second-best true center in the league. (zars 3rd?) 8. Borowicz - elite shooter that can score on all three levels. 9. Alnatas - well-rounded guard that is always a scoring threat. 10. Krull - Like Meyer, a do-everything PG. Probably a worse scorer but a better defender. Only thing I change on this list is the inclusion of C Brooklyn McDavid from KC over Ezeudu. I think she may sneak into a first team all conference this year. Was definitely newcomer of the year and a big reason they surprised people and finished third. Other than that I agree the SD schools have DEEP talent. First Team: Sjerven, Selland, Lamb, Alnatas, McDavid, And the final one is tricky either Meyer or Burckhard from SDSU, Korngable or Borowicz. I’m leaning to the SDSU side.
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Post by summitfandom on Mar 3, 2022 12:45:53 GMT -6
Only thing I change on this list is the inclusion of C Brooklyn McDavid from KC over Ezeudu. I think she may sneak into a first team all conference this year. Was definitely newcomer of the year and a big reason they surprised people and finished third. Other than that I agree the SD schools have DEEP talent. weren't the Roos picked 3rd in the preseason poll? I wouldn't say they surprised anyone. I think 4th or 5th but I definitely thought NDSU or ND would be 3rd based on last years play and returners. Either way hopefully the voters reward the players that won and don’t strictly go off statistics. I find it hard to give first team to a player on a bottom seeded team.
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Post by kiyoat on Mar 3, 2022 15:14:14 GMT -6
weren't the Roos picked 3rd in the preseason poll? I wouldn't say they surprised anyone. I think 4th or 5th but I definitely thought NDSU or ND would be 3rd based on last years play and returners. Either way hopefully the voters reward the players that won and don’t strictly go off statistics. I find it hard to give first team to a player on a bottom seeded team. You are correct: goyotes.com/news/2021/10/12/womens-basketball-coyotes-picked-as-summit-favorites-three-named-preseason-all-league.aspxpre | team | finish | team | 1 | USD | 1T | SDSU (+1) | 2 | SDSU | 1T | USD (0) | 3 | NDSU | 3 | KC (+1) | 4 | KC | 4 | ORU (+2) | 5 | Denver | 5 | UND (+4) | 6 | ORU | 6 | NDSU (-3) | 7 | WIU | 7 | WIU (0) | 8 | Omaha | 8 | Denver (-3) | 9 | UND | 9 | UST (+1) | 10 | UST | 10 | Omaha (-2) |
biggest disappointments: NDSU and Denver, also Omaha nailed it: USD and Western biggest surprises: UND and ORU
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 4, 2022 2:07:26 GMT -6
I think Omaha is the most disappointing team. They got to the Summit Final last year (which was pretty much a fluke) but to finish dead last is embarrassing for them. You would think they would gain confidence from Sioux Falls last year. North Dakota did well. NDSU gets honorable mention for most disappointing. They took as many steps back this year that they took forward last year. I don't feel bad for them. The Bison have enough to cheer about the way it is. They can struggle in something anyway.
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Post by yote18 on Mar 4, 2022 9:16:04 GMT -6
Building off of the season finishes. This brings me to my question what do we think about AJ getting COY? Im personally Neutral on it (although it kind of feels more like a “we can’t give the Yotes everything” thing) but AJ is also a great coach. Personally I didn’t see anything from either USD or SDSU that screamed coach of the year. Mainly because the level we’re playing at is something that’s expected at this point.
My personal choice for it was KC’s coach. I think she’s really building something good down there in KC. While they played a more easy schedule in non-con they still finished the year 22-7 with a 12-6 summit record (4 losses to the SD’s). They were also the only other team in the top 100 of the NET for a majority of the season.
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Post by kiyoat on Mar 4, 2022 9:46:28 GMT -6
Building off of the season finishes. This brings me to my question what do we think about AJ getting COY? Im personally Neutral on it (although it kind of feels more like a “we can’t give the Yotes everything” thing) but AJ is also a great coach. Personally I didn’t see anything from either USD or SDSU that screamed coach of the year. Mainly because the level we’re playing at is something that’s expected at this point. My personal choice for it was KC’s coach. I think she’s really building something good down there in KC. While they played a more easy schedule in non-con they still finished the year 22-7 with a 12-6 summit record (4 losses to the SD’s). They were also the only other team in the top 100 of the NET for a majority of the season. Yeah, I think COY was a tough one this year. If Bernhard at UND had finished 3rd or even 4th, that would have been a slam dunk in my mind. From being picked 9th to 3rd? Wow. 9 to five, OTOH, us just a good Dolly Parton song. The lackluster finish and 0-2 record vs their rival Bison basically took her out of the running, I think. I think the simple fact that the Jacks were picked 2nd in the preseason tipped the scales for a AJ over Coach P. That and the fact that the Jacks are a much stronger team at the end of the season than they were at the start points to growth. It's about expectation vs results. I also think that if the Roos were picked 5th in the preseason rather than 4th, Hoyt with KC would have gotten the nod. Or if she had upset one of the SD schools. Really, you have to have a good excuse not to reward one of the two elite teams in the conference, and Hoyt and Bernhard came close, but not close enough. JMO.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 4, 2022 13:14:20 GMT -6
Building off of the season finishes. This brings me to my question what do we think about AJ getting COY? Im personally Neutral on it (although it kind of feels more like a “we can’t give the Yotes everything” thing) but AJ is also a great coach. Personally I didn’t see anything from either USD or SDSU that screamed coach of the year. Mainly because the level we’re playing at is something that’s expected at this point. My personal choice for it was KC’s coach. I think she’s really building something good down there in KC. While they played a more easy schedule in non-con they still finished the year 22-7 with a 12-6 summit record (4 losses to the SD’s). They were also the only other team in the top 100 of the NET for a majority of the season. Just because the level is expected should not exclude either AJ or DP from getting the award. It is not The South Dakota schools problem that the rest of the league doesn't want to up the ante. Until someone really puts a scare into the SD schools than I would have no problem if the COY goes to either of them every time.
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Post by yote18 on Mar 4, 2022 15:08:41 GMT -6
Building off of the season finishes. This brings me to my question what do we think about AJ getting COY? Im personally Neutral on it (although it kind of feels more like a “we can’t give the Yotes everything” thing) but AJ is also a great coach. Personally I didn’t see anything from either USD or SDSU that screamed coach of the year. Mainly because the level we’re playing at is something that’s expected at this point. My personal choice for it was KC’s coach. I think she’s really building something good down there in KC. While they played a more easy schedule in non-con they still finished the year 22-7 with a 12-6 summit record (4 losses to the SD’s). They were also the only other team in the top 100 of the NET for a majority of the season. Just because the level is expected should not exclude either AJ or DP from getting the award. It is not The South Dakota schools problem that the rest of the league doesn't want to up the ante. Until someone really puts a scare into the SD schools than I would have no problem if the COY goes to either of them every time. I’m not saying exclude them lol take the blue glasses off for just a minute. I said they didn’t pass MY eye test. Dawn and AJ are both phenomenal coaches no one in this league is saying otherwise. I just happened to think the KC Coach had a better case.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 4, 2022 19:44:35 GMT -6
I also didn't say you said they should be excluded either.
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Post by kiyoat on Mar 9, 2022 15:11:49 GMT -6
Now that the regular season and Summit Postseason has concluded, here are some interesting all-time records to update:
Most Regular season championships: 8 SDSU 6 Western Ill 5 USD 5 Youngstown St 3 Oakland
Most consecutive reg-season champs: 5 Youngstown St (1995-99) 4 Western Ill (2003-06) 3 SDSU (2012-14)
Most SLT Championships: 9 SDSU 5 ORU 4 USD 3 Youngstown St
Most consecutive SLT champs: 5 SDSU (2009-13) 3 USD (2020-22) active 2 SDSU (2015-16) 2 SDSU (2018-19) 2 ORU (2007-08) 2 Valpo (2003-04)
Most SLT championship appearances: 11 SDSU 9 USD 7 ORU 7 Oakland 6 Youngstown St 5 Valpo 3 Western Ill
Most consecutive SLT champ appearances: 6 Youngstown St (1995-00) 5 SDSU (2009-13) 5 USD (2018-22) active 4 USD (2013-16) 3 SDSU (2018-20) 3 Oakland (2001-03) 3 Valpo (2002-04)
Most SLT MVPs 7 SDSU 6 USD 6 ORU
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Mar 9, 2022 18:21:12 GMT -6
This is interesting, is it possible to add how many years each team was/has been in the league?
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Post by kiyoat on Mar 9, 2022 18:47:48 GMT -6
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