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Post by gopheryote on Dec 4, 2021 8:10:12 GMT -6
The Coyotes were competitive sort of but I wouldn't call it the kind of performance that we should be cheering that loudly about. For some reason anytime someone brings up expectations or trying to strive for more many people get their panties in a bunch. There is nothing wrong with being happy about the season but expecting a bit more in the post season. They don't have to be mutually exclusive to one another and I just happen to be in the minority by being both. You may want to consider the POV that being realistic provides more enjoyment and contentment for fans than always wanting/expecting something more than what we have.
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Post by gopheryote on Dec 4, 2021 8:33:18 GMT -6
If you combine tonight, the football team and women's hoops they all seem just too satisfied to be in the playoffs but when they get their none of them have played well. The Jacks are doing more in the post season so now as a fan base we should expect a little more as well. Football is very new to this but now women's hoops and volleyball need to be better in the ncaa's. That isn't to take away from a good season but let's raise the bar higher. If the yotes WBB would get an easy first round like the state had in the years they've won, we'd pick up a few tournament wins too. They get a Syracuse or something and we end up playing Stanford or the most under-seeded Oregon team of all time. Volleyball is a different animal. You don't see many upsets in volleyball. The better team generally wins. Building a lead doesn't matter when you have to win 3 individual games. The luck of the draw in postseason matchups is such a huge piece of winning games. CF likes comparing things to SDSU, so let's compare it. If the Yotes played UC Davis in FB last week they would still be playing. It has nothing to do with expectations or being satisfied or even how good you really are - it often is just fortunate matchups. (The one exception I can think of was the WBB team from 2019-20, where they would have received P5-level seeding, and likely would have been favored in the first round.)
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Post by kiyoat on Dec 4, 2021 9:11:54 GMT -6
Really if we had been playing better in the non-con we would have almost assuredly been playing an un-seeded team in the first round. We finished with an RPI of 70, but could have been closer to 50 or 45 with a handful of more wins. That’s just on the outside of at-large territory.
Water under the bridge. I’m ecstatic we won back-to-back titles. It was a very good year.
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Post by kiyoat on Dec 4, 2021 10:03:26 GMT -6
Post Match Interviews:
Q: Is there anything unique that you can take away from this game, that's maybe different than the past couple of years?
Coach: "Yeah... I think we belong. We belong in the NCAA tournament. We belong playing the top teams. And that's something that we are gonna continue to buy into, and continue to work towards. This is exactly where we want to be every single year.... Yes, we'd love to be able to take that next step and win a match, and this wasn't our year, but we still have so much we can take from it..."
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Post by yoteforever on Dec 4, 2021 11:05:58 GMT -6
The Coyotes were competitive sort of but I wouldn't call it the kind of performance that we should be cheering that loudly about. For some reason anytime someone brings up expectations or trying to strive for more many people get their panties in a bunch. There is nothing wrong with being happy about the season but expecting a bit more in the post season. They don't have to be mutually exclusive to one another and I just happen to be in the minority by being both. The Coyotes were competitive, sort of? Are you serious Clark? The Coyotes were seeded 53rd out of 64. And given our performance throughout this year, that’s fair. We’ve struggled all year with serve receive and passing to go “in system”. Our kids aren’t Power 5 athletes when they come to Vermillion. They are being developed and that’s a huge tribute to Leanne and Mike. We go into Maturi Pavilion and play the nations number 12 team in front of a huge and hostile crowd, and both sets 1 and 2 the Gophers are pushed to the limit. CF, since you post all these “winner” observations you have, let’s talk about the game of volleyball because you must understand it well to post what you do. I want you to comment on attack errors, serving errors, and passing errors. Why do they happen? How would you coach them differently? When I coached, I had one motto. Don’t find fault, find remedy. So how would you as coach remedied the situation last night? These kids played their asses off. They left nothing on the floor. I guaranty you if every fan was like you they’d go elsewhere. You can’t even appreciate what they did. You literally always spout off what they didn’t do. I’ll tell you what they didn’t do…they didn’t quit. These young ladies are warriors. We won the conference tournament even though we weren’t conference champs. Think about that. Did they have a “so-so” tournament? No they didn’t but they did it on a huge home court advantage. Who had that last night? Oh yeah, the #12 team in the country. You always reference the Jacks. Always. Change your name to Jacks Fan and I’d have more respect for you.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Dec 4, 2021 12:22:54 GMT -6
Is it ok to be happy with the season which I clearly was but want to see more in the NCAAs? Apparently not.
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Post by Yotes on Dec 4, 2021 12:49:51 GMT -6
Post Match Interviews: Q: Is there anything unique that you can take away from this game, that's maybe different than the past couple of years? Coach: "Yeah... I think we belong. We belong in the NCAA tournament. We belong playing the top teams. And that's something that we are gonna continue to buy into, and continue to work towards. This is exactly where we want to be every single year.... Yes, we'd love to be able to take that next step and win a match, and this wasn't our year, but we still have so much we can take from it..." Sounds like a coach truly focused on keeping USD in the national picture. I think that's a big deal considering the opportunities Leanne must have. Something that's especially on my mind given the absurd carousel we are currently seeing in big time college football and coaches talking out both sides of their mouth.
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Post by kiyoat on Dec 6, 2021 8:45:16 GMT -6
#12 Minnesota vs South Dakota (round 1)
25-19 25-22 25-17
#12 Minnesota vs Stanford (round 2)
25-20 25-18 25-17
Looks pretty similar.
BTW, although Stanford wasn't seeded this year, they are #18 in the AVCA Coaches Poll this year, and have more national titles than any other program (9 with 8 runner-up finishes), and won their most recent titles in 2018 and 2019.
Yeah, I'd say the Yotes belong.
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Post by yoteforever on Dec 6, 2021 11:51:40 GMT -6
#12 Minnesota vs South Dakota (round 1) 25-19 25-22 25-17 #12 Minnesota vs Stanford (round 2)25-20 25-18 25-17 Looks pretty similar. BTW, although Stanford wasn't seeded this year, they are #18 in the AVCA Coaches Poll this year, and have more national titles than any other program (9 with 8 runner-up finishes), and won their most recent titles in 2018 and 2019. Yeah, I'd say the Yotes belong. My over / under for points scored when USD played Minnesota was 55 for the first three sets. An 18+ average against a highly ranked opponent would be making the statement “although we aren’t quite at your level, we’re close. If you slip up we can get you”. We scored 58. That’s awesome. Despite what one poster thinks this was one hell of a showing. I’ve been involved and around the highest level of volleyball with my daughters and I can tell you that the lady Coyotes are very very close to playing top ten teams. Coach W, in my opinion, runs this program as it should be run. They play and practice hard yet they do fun things on trips and take some time away from the game. 63 of the 64 teams in the NCAA tournament end their season with losses. The expectation level of the fans needs to be tempered. If we had won the regular season title plus the conference title, then it’s feasible we could’ve played a team like Iowa State which now is a peer of USD. That would’ve been a potentially winnable match. But we finished 2nd in the conference but won the tournament therefore affecting our overall seed. Out of the field of 64 we were 53rd. That was a fair seeding. Stanford was 21st. Iowa State was 44th. I think in reality we could’ve beaten Iowa State, played with and possibly beat Stanford. Three years ago we played Iowa State in Vermillion and got handled pretty easily. Two years ago we played them in Ames. Same result. The 2021 team is now on equal footing with the Cyclones. That’s a combination of their program going the wrong direction and ours the right way. That changes annually as one would guess. The bottom line is this….Coyote fans are getting to watch a super product on the floor for very little money. Secondly, you name one kid in that program that doesn’t have class? I’m not sure what people want, and I know MOST posters on here are realists but for those that aren’t….get real.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Dec 6, 2021 20:18:40 GMT -6
Getting swept is not one hell of a showing. It was a good season but is there a such thing as having a very good season but also admitting that the Coyotes played mediocre in the NCAA tournament. If this was considered a great showing then getting swept every tourney should be completely acceptable and as one poster said, it was one hell of a showing.
Why can't some people be objective and call it like it is. Take the red goggles off for just one second. This was a good season but not a great showing against Minnesota. Why sugar coat it.
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Post by fightsd on Dec 6, 2021 20:24:22 GMT -6
Getting swept is not one hell of a showing. It was a good season but is there a such thing as having a very good season but also admitting that the Coyotes played mediocre in the NCAA tournament. If this was considered a great showing then getting swept every tourney should be completely acceptable and as one poster said, it was one hell of a showing. Why can't some people be objective and call it like it is. Take the red goggles off for just one second. This was a good season but not a great showing against Minnesota. Why sugar coat it. You might be the least objective poster on this topic. If you look at it objectively, the coyotes played the number 12 team in the country tougher than a lot of the B1G did all year. They absolutely didn't play their best game, but it wasn't a mediocre performance.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Dec 6, 2021 20:29:30 GMT -6
Watch the third set and tell me it was one hell of a showing. The Coyotes played poorly in that set and most of it had nothing to do with how good Minnesota was. Go ahead and watch.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Dec 6, 2021 20:35:54 GMT -6
If people call that match a good or great showing than don't complain if every tourney match ends up a sweep. The expectation is already set that it is a great showing.
Some people would call it a good performance regardless of what actually happened. Playing a team close for two sets and not winning a set is not great. If the Coyotes would have taken them to 5 than I could maybe buy into the great performance theory.
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Post by fightsd on Dec 6, 2021 20:54:02 GMT -6
If people call that match a good or great showing than don't complain if every tourney match ends up a sweep. The expectation is already set that it is a great showing. Some people would call it a good performance regardless of what actually happened. Playing a team close for two sets and not winning a set is not great. If the Coyotes would have taken them to 5 than I could maybe buy into the great performance theory. Nobody is going to convince you of anything, so I'm not going to try. All I will say is that I can live with losing to a team that is clearly better. I wouldn't expect the football team to go out and beat Alabama, or even keep it close. I didn't expect WBB to beat SC in Sioux Falls. Minnesota is a legitimate national championship contender, and I didn't realistically expect them to win that one either. I will quit typing it because I'm tired of saying it, but USD played Minnesota better than a lot of teams in the B1G did all year long. Nobody plays their best game every night and USD certainly didn't this weekend, but it wasn't mediocre. Same goes for Minnesota. If both teams played up to their abilities, the result would have been the same. If you lose sleep over these kinds of games, you must really hate being a sports fan.
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Post by usdguy99 on Dec 6, 2021 21:16:53 GMT -6
Watch the third set and tell me it was one hell of a showing. The Coyotes played poorly in that set and most of it had nothing to do with how good Minnesota was. Go ahead and watch. You are going to use 1 set as your measuring stick? Pull that stick out of your....
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