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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 8, 2022 8:45:16 GMT -6
We have a game against a long-time rival this Saturday. Playoffs on the line for UND and pride on the line for the Yotes.
Prediction:
South Dakota 27 - North Dakota 23
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Post by Yotes on Nov 8, 2022 9:48:45 GMT -6
Who wouldn't be thrilled to stick it to the Fighting Somethings? Bonus if it ruins their season too.
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Post by elcoyote on Nov 8, 2022 10:53:30 GMT -6
I'd love for the 'Yotes to come home with a victory and definitely think it's within reach, but our struggles on the road this year give me pause not to mention the winner of this game seems to always be the home team. Also think we need to establish some kind of travelling trophy for this game between two similar Dakota Territory institutions.
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 8, 2022 11:35:53 GMT -6
You mean like the Sitting Bull Trophy.
Going on the road to Grand Forks doesn't bother me because the game is indoors. Same when we go to UNI. We seem to struggle more with outdoor road games.
I just remember last year's game where we were by far the more physically dominant team. Bigger, stronger, faster, more athletic across the board. I think we've been the better team for years but have just found ways to blow leads with bad turnovers or let UND hang around too much. Play a clean, efficient, physical game and we win this one.
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Post by elcoyote on Nov 8, 2022 12:13:24 GMT -6
You mean like the Sitting Bull Trophy.Going on the road to Grand Forks doesn't bother me because the game is indoors. Same when we go to UNI. We seem to struggle more with outdoor road games. I just remember last year's game where we were by far the more physically dominant team. Bigger, stronger, faster, more athletic across the board. I think we've been the better team for years but have just found ways to blow leads with bad turnovers or let UND hang around too much. Play a clean, efficient, physical game and we win this one. Something along the lines like that one was, but don't think that particular moniker would fly in this day and age. |
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Post by sdyotefan on Nov 8, 2022 13:19:29 GMT -6
You're probably right elcoyote which is sad since Sitting Bull was a great native leader!
Trophy was being used when I was there. Nice wooden bust.
Never was anything disrespectful!
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Post by Yotes on Nov 8, 2022 13:33:30 GMT -6
Anything that could be made up to restart a trophy game is going to feel very forced. Look at the xDSUs parading around a dumb rock that they made up. Look at the hokey trophies Nebraska made up in joining the Big Ten.
Trophy games work when they embrace quirky history, like Iowa and Minnesota commemorating the time they played for a hog in the 30s.
If we can't come up with a naturally fun concept for a trophy then we don't need one. Ohio State and Michigan don't play for a trophy, and they seem happy when one of them wins.
Edit: I can't imagine UND would publicly embrace a native themed trophy after their name saga.
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Post by GoYotes on Nov 8, 2022 13:33:59 GMT -6
The Sitting Bull trophy and the USD - UND rivalry was the subject of a Sports Illustrated article back during my days as a student at USD. Perhaps it could be resurrected as part of a week long celebration of Native American history and heritage that would rotate annually between Vermillion & Grand Forks ans culminate with the football game on Saturday |
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Post by canislatrans on Nov 8, 2022 13:49:42 GMT -6
The Sitting Bull trophy and the USD - UND rivalry was the subject of a Sports Illustrated article back during my days as a student at USD. Perhaps it could be resurrected as part of a week long celebration of Native American history and heritage that would rotate annually between Vermillion & Grand Forks ans culminate with the football game on Saturday That was a great read, thanks for posting. |
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Post by elcoyote on Nov 8, 2022 15:16:21 GMT -6
Anything that could be made up to restart a trophy game is going to feel very forced. Look at the xDSUs parading around a dumb rock that they made up. Look at the hokey trophies Nebraska made up in joining the Big Ten.Trophy games work when they embrace quirky history, like Iowa and Minnesota commemorating the time they played for a hog in the 30s. If we can't come up with a naturally fun concept for a trophy then we don't need one. Ohio State and Michigan don't play for a trophy, and they seem happy when one of them wins. Edit: I can't imagine UND would publicly embrace a native themed trophy after their name saga. How dare you besmirch the Bits of Broken Chair Trophy! |
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Post by nccyote on Nov 8, 2022 15:18:31 GMT -6
The Sitting Bull trophy and the USD - UND rivalry was the subject of a Sports Illustrated article back during my days as a student at USD. Perhaps it could be resurrected as part of a week long celebration of Native American history and heritage that would rotate annually between Vermillion & Grand Forks ans culminate with the football game on Saturday That was a cool article! |
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Post by elcoyote on Nov 8, 2022 15:24:11 GMT -6
The Sitting Bull trophy and the USD - UND rivalry was the subject of a Sports Illustrated article back during my days as a student at USD. Perhaps it could be resurrected as part of a week long celebration of Native American history and heritage that would rotate annually between Vermillion & Grand Forks ans culminate with the football game on Saturday I remember that article. It made quite a stir around campus when it appeared. Great find! |
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Post by Yotes on Nov 8, 2022 16:01:50 GMT -6
Anything that could be made up to restart a trophy game is going to feel very forced. Look at the xDSUs parading around a dumb rock that they made up. Look at the hokey trophies Nebraska made up in joining the Big Ten.Trophy games work when they embrace quirky history, like Iowa and Minnesota commemorating the time they played for a hog in the 30s. If we can't come up with a naturally fun concept for a trophy then we don't need one. Ohio State and Michigan don't play for a trophy, and they seem happy when one of them wins. Edit: I can't imagine UND would publicly embrace a native themed trophy after their name saga. How dare you besmirch the Bits of Broken Chair Trophy! That one is great, because it occurred naturally, but doesn't Nebraska ignore its existence? It seemed like it didn't have official recognition. Sort of an outlaw trophy. |
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Post by elcoyote on Nov 8, 2022 16:18:21 GMT -6
It's always talked about on the "Corn Nation" website. It was a bigger deal until the Huskers started to suck though. Anyway, back to USD vs UND...
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Post by kiyoat on Nov 9, 2022 10:00:20 GMT -6
Gratuitous long post with trophy pictures incoming..... ...almost there... ... keep scrolling....  1976 - The Coyote Football team wins back the Sitting Bull Trophy in Grand Forks after a 14-7 game. Some terrible suggestions for a new USD/UND trophy..... ![]()  The "Dakota Access Pipeline" Trohpy?No explanation needed. Plus, the players could drink champagne from it.  The "Nehamiah G. Ordway" Trohpy?
(he was a corrupt and hated Dakota Territory Governor that moved the Capitol from Yankton to Bismark with political help from the Northern Pacific Railway, even though the population was mostly in the South Dakota portion of the territory) Nehemiah G. Ordway
Super nerdy pick.  The "Fighting Flickertail" Trophy?This is the mascot UND probably should have chosen instead of the generic "Hawks". The state literally has the official nickname "The Flickertail State", just as SD used to be known as the "Coyote State" at one time. Bonus points for rodents comprising the bulk of the natural diet of coyotes. BTW: Flickertails are large ground squirrels that look and behave very similarly to prairie dogs, in case you were wondering.  The "Strategic Air Command" Trophy?For many years the three air bases in the Dakotas have been, (along with tons of missile silos) a critical part of America's nuclear deterrent strategy. As post-cold-war military cutbacks have created competition between these bases for survival, I think the B-52 Stratofortress, (based in the past in both states) would be a fitting symbol. Well, either that or.....  The "Minuteman ICBM" Trophy?Could be advertised as: "The Largest and most phallic football trophy in the Dakotas" in an escalating arms race... Well, that's all I have for now. |
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