jorjo
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Post by jorjo on Mar 11, 2024 18:14:39 GMT -6
It was good to see the ladies compete. I had no issues with the refs/calls. I haven’t checked the stats but it seemed like we shot way more 3’s than sdsu, and they attacked the paint and the meyers and their other big put lots of pressure on the rim(we basically only had grace who did that). That’s going to lead to a ft advantage for SDSU. We had a chance to win this game, we just couldn’t make enough jump shots. We just weren’t talented enough this year. We are missing a few pieces to make the whole thing work.
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dbyote
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Post by dbyote on Mar 11, 2024 18:38:42 GMT -6
I obviously don't know AJ personally so you certainly could be right about him. As far as refs go, you are simply wrong. I think some of it can be chalked up the the aggressive, attacking offensive play he has always coached. I wouldn't dispute that and I think today it was a factor. Officiating in Brookings has always been next level Homer. I grew up near there and have personally witnessed it for over 30 years. Tournament officiating is different and favors the Jacks style too, but the crowd seems to affect the refs in sioux falls. It always has. All that being said, with a few exceptions, state brings the best group of players to sioux falls and has the best tactician on the bench. Their success there isn't an accident. We've been at that level and it's been bitter to see how quickly we fell. We're trying to play catch up again and it plain sucks. I’ve always seen AJ’s offense as ball movement. Hence so many players that can play the 1-4 spot. But if it truly is the style of play why do t more teams adopt that. I mean if that’s what it takes to compete and win. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. He has always had players that are serviceable shooters who can attack off the dribble. You draw more fouls and make the defense move and create open looks. I knew today wasn't going to be our day when we attempted 14 threes in the first quarter all the while we were getting in foul trouble. It does come down to who you are able to put on the floor but you don't make the defense work shooting 3s early in the clock. Our shot selection has been questionable all year. I don't have any hair left from scratching my head. I've always been impressed with the basketball IQ of the kids AJ rolls out there too. You don't see them doing dumb things very often. It makes a huge difference, especially in close games.
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Post by marco on Mar 11, 2024 19:24:36 GMT -6
We lost 2 good players to the portal last year and 2 coaches to the big 10 it happens I hope she stays. Its part of the game now I dont like it
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Post by GoYotes on Mar 11, 2024 19:41:38 GMT -6
I also hope Meyer stays. I want to beat the Jackrabbits because we have got our game back to the level we are accustomed to and not because SDSU has become less talented. Our goal has never been and should never be to just get the March Madness auto-bid. but to do some damage once we get there.
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Post by gopheryote on Mar 11, 2024 20:28:15 GMT -6
Yotes had a chance today, but the shooting had to be good (it was bad) - they really rushed shots when they weren't set.
Of course officiating style has an effect on the game - it would be ridiculous to say otherwise. Tournament games are called different - and star players get treated different. Hanna got the benefit of the doubt, and Meyer will now. That's not new. What was far more interesting was how they were calling/not calling freedom of movement with the ball. Grace and Paige Meyer weren't able to get around players because hand checking was allowed. I don't think it would have changed the outcome (airballing 3's had nothing to do with the style of game), but it is interesting to watch.
And Coyote fans - PLEASE do not go on an opposing team's fanboard a few hours after their season ends. Be better than that.
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yote18
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Post by yote18 on Mar 11, 2024 20:43:04 GMT -6
Good gawd, quit the whining. Ban me if you want, but good lord let it go. Why would you want B Meyer to leave? It won’t help the yotes win, regardless of what the yote team brings in/back. She’s not going to leave. Wouldn’t you rather they beat the Jacks with the best players. Idiotic mindset to wish for another team to come down a level so your own team is more competitive. Newsflash, the Jacks will be very good for years to come. The chance for the league was this year, down 5 players to injury. 2 invited players to just field a practice team. Regarding AJ, get a grip. Honestly poll any coach in the college game and they’ll be the first to tell you AJ is the consummate professional. Fortunately the yotes have similar in Kairus and Jewett. It’s not like he’s up and down the sideline screaming like Jory Collins. Watch the championship game tomorrow, you’ll see “hissy fits”. Every team gets calls at times, also deal with missed calls. Stop using the refs as an excuse. And I’d say this on a jackrabbit board just the same. Hopefully the Lady Yotes get an invite to a post season tourney and can do some damage. Also, find a way to get fans to the arena if they host. It’s always better when several teams are doing well and fanbases are engaged. You do know this a usd fan board right? While you make valid points we don’t really need a fan of another program, especially from the one we just lost to, to come in and tell us to get over it or not complain. It’s better to be a humble winner than a loud one.
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Post by notkiotees on Mar 11, 2024 21:54:51 GMT -6
Geez, wasn't trolling for dumb asses but still reeled one in!
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Post by kiyoat on Mar 12, 2024 0:12:23 GMT -6
I felt like the game was pretty fairly officiated most of the time. We weren't robbed by the zebras, or anything like that. I just could not understand what in the sam hell was going on in the final minute where our girls kept getting called for off-ball fouls rapidly and repeatedly in the low post against Meyer. It was bizarre. Meyer eventually got pulled, and then the same thing happened against Byom.
I'm no expert on post play, but it's not like the players were hands-off in the earlier part of the game (both ways). Was it truly a case where AJ complained loud enough or long enough that they decided to make a point? At the end of a tournament game? Like repeatedly 4 or 5 times in a row? It was comical.
Maybe we should have adjusted strategy at that point, but its not like you can just leave a player like that open. Please tell me I'm not going insane.
(and no, I'm not asking for a response from any Jack-boys. In my opinion, if you don't show up before the game to wish us well, it's in poor taste to join the discussion afterwards.)
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Post by sdyotefan on Mar 12, 2024 6:33:01 GMT -6
The state coach has perfected the art of whining and complaining over the years!
All coaches do it but he carries it to the extreme!
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jmgg
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Post by jmgg on Mar 12, 2024 8:08:38 GMT -6
I have just one thing to add about this game. I'm proud to be a Yote. Our girls battled their ass off and almost pulled it off, even with missing our 2nd leading scorer. It was a case of not nailing our outside shots like we're capable of (this is where we missed Holmes the most). We had a lot of good looks, but were just cold outside.
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Post by Men's League Waterboy on Mar 12, 2024 9:07:29 GMT -6
I surely would not advocate for anyone leaving as it is their experience and they need to do what is best for them. However I do disagree with you that a person would not be nuts for leaving. Factors: 1. Resources offered by a University from meals, travel, cost of attendance, NIl opportunities.. 2. Competition. It is not far fetched to say the summit league is a poor women’s basketball conference. You basically play an entire conference season without be challenged. At the Power 5 level it is a battle every night so personal improvement is more natural. Thriving to be your best. 3. Future of college basketball? It is not hard to imagine the power 5 conferences or Power 6 breaking off from the rest of division 1 schools for the NCAA tournament. The smaller schools do not move the needle for revenue and the big schools are sharing the pot. I would hate to see this but a future like football with FBS and FCS in basketball might not be to far off. 4. Players like Matt Mooney, Stanley Umude, Max Avmas have had incredible experiences leaving the summit leave. Many mid major players have had incredible experiences as well. Look at Dalton Knecht leaves Northern Colorado and will probably be SEC player of the year. 5. Personally I hope all players stay and fulfill their dreams but between The Yotes and the school up North we have had many players that would have been good in the power 5 level and unfortunately the money and resources are just getting bigger. Stay or go but a person surely is not nuts for leaving. We’re gonna have agree to disagree I guess. A women’s basketball player at State would be nuts to leave for something “bigger.” Which is probably why it doesn’t happen.
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Post by elcoyote on Mar 12, 2024 10:13:50 GMT -6
As to the late string of fouls, I thought at the time that we were fouling on purpose to get then into a bonus situation. It was 5 to 1 team fouls at the point with just a short time left and the bunnies starting to use clock, so the four quick fouls were to our benefit such as it was as they would have most likely used the entirety of the shot clock every possession. We needed to get the clock stopped, hoped they missed their free throws, (which they didn't) and get possessions. SDSU's game plan in the last minute or so was basically to stand and watch us make a layup and then walk down and shoot free throws.
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Post by jackedforlife on Mar 12, 2024 10:53:57 GMT -6
Geez, wasn't trolling for dumb asses but still reeled one in! Looks like there is more than one. Yes I realize it’s a Yote board. Do you not want outside perspective when there are idiotic comments? Or is it just LakesBison because they come on here and kiss your backside spewing similar hatred/disdain for the school up north. Fueling more conspiracy theories and it’s not fair storylines. Seriously, the amount of complaining from many of you is ridiculous. Often the athletes decide the game, in game coaching, adjustments. Will there be any new excuses going forward? I want to have a good rivalry with in-state fans. What happens after First Bank and Trust Arena is finished? I’ll stick to the smack I guess if I’m not kicked off. Glad I stayed away from the FB threads this season. I wholeheartedly wish the Coyote Women success if they get into a post season tourney. As I said before, it’s much better when our programs are having success…I just want the Jacks to have more of it.
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Post by jackedforlife on Mar 12, 2024 11:01:35 GMT -6
(and no, I'm not asking for a response from any Jack-boys. In my opinion, if you don't show up before the game to wish us well, it's in poor taste to join the discussion afterwards.) 🙄 Why would any Jackrabbit or opposing fan want to wish the opposition well before? I wish for a hard fought, competitive game, no injuries to either team. So, I’ll make this my last post, good luck Coyotes. Looking forward to October 26th.
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Post by kiyoat on Mar 12, 2024 11:03:39 GMT -6
As to the late string of fouls, I thought at the time that we were fouling on purpose to get then into a bonus situation. It was 5 to 1 team fouls at the point with just a short time left and the bunnies starting to use clock, so the four quick fouls were to our benefit such as it was as they would have most likely used the entirety of the shot clock every possession. We needed to get the clock stopped, hoped they missed their free throws, (which they didn't) and get possessions. SDSU's game plan in the last minute or so was basically to stand and watch us make a layup and then walk down and shoot free throws. OK, that makes more sense. See? this is why I ask the questions in here. Much smarter folks than me about the game. I suppose that fouling Meyer in that situation rather than the ball carrier makes it possible (but not likely) that she ends up getting a foul called on her due to the physics of post play (it's hard to just stand there and let someone muscle you out of position without pushing back a little), so maybe they were hoping a call would randomly go against her instead? If that was the case, she played it with discipline. On a similar note, I thought our strategy of doubling Meyer after she got the ball, and stripping the ball seemed to work at times. Until it didn't. The defensive game-plan was solid, I thought. If a few more of our arc-shots fell, we would have been right in contention. Our coaches know what they are doing. We just need to keep recruiting and developing. Brighter days ahead.
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