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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 19, 2011 19:55:37 GMT -6
It's tough but Coyote Nation needs a voice.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 19, 2011 22:19:03 GMT -6
For those that want Meierkort to stay in control that is completely ok. I will just say don't expect to see anything different in the future than what we have seen recently. Nothing is going to change so I am assuming those that want to stay going in the same direction are ok with the last two road losses as long as the Yotes continue to win at home.
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Post by jman1985 on Nov 20, 2011 0:36:51 GMT -6
A game like Saturday will certainly bring more people to this question.
Literally 5 minutes after the game ended, a guy i was talking to said he wouldnt be surprised if a change is made. This from a guy who is a Coyote supporter.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 20, 2011 0:53:46 GMT -6
Whether he stays of not, Ed has to be asking the question to himself if he will be around. How could he not at least rattle the notion around a little.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 20, 2011 1:06:20 GMT -6
One thing that has to be considered is with misfortune can also come opportunity. Ed was a D3 coach before he touched down at USD so he is making an incredible leap from D3 to D1 FCS MVFC in a 8 year timeframe. That is a huge leap up for most coaches and maybe he is just in over his head.
USD needs to really think about this. I believe this would be a very attractable job and would attract very respectable candidates. We are talking about the transition being over, big upgrades to the dome coming and a University generally on the rise. It could be a great opportunity for both USD and for a coach to take advantage of. Is there risk, or course there is but it's one that is worth taking.
Imagine if the Yotes could become a respectable road team. They would really be good at home in that senario.
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Post by jman1985 on Nov 20, 2011 1:16:44 GMT -6
This quote from Meierkort directly from the USD game release
"I come back down to making the right calls in certain situations either side of the ball, to manufacture stops for the kids. I have a young staff that hasn’t been through this before and they are learning the hard way and I feel bad for them."
Again, we're throwing this on the young staff?
Here's a thought: Different seasons, different players, different games, different opponents, different schemes, different situations, but the same outcomes. What's the one thing in common through all these road problems?
I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 20, 2011 1:54:44 GMT -6
So I guess we are supposed to allow these assistant coaches to learn on the job. Aren't qualified people already in these positions of importance. Heck I want to learn how to be a coach, can I get some on the job training as well (JK) :-)
Montana State is having a great year. Remember when Ed was in the running for that position. I wonder where the Bobcats would be today with Ed running their ship.
Last year it was me and maybe 1 or 2 other users on the bandwagon of change. I get the feeling after today that bandwagon is really starting to gain steam.
Through all of this I feel extremely bad tonight for the players on the Yotes most especially the seniors. They deserved a better fate than has been presented to them. I guess in these times is when they really have to become men and learn that life can really throw some rotten apples at them.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Nov 20, 2011 3:51:48 GMT -6
These two bad road collapses equals out the EWU and SUU games. I am for a coaching change, but if he doesn't go, the assistants do have to be replaced to show there is change and if things aren't changed around in a year he is gone.
Also, young assistant coaches? If you are the head coach, you should be the ones making the calls at the end of the games or have a hand in it. That's how you become Leslie Frazier, by doing nothing and watching you team flounder.
Seriously, the wrong calls? Usually that's the head coach. I don't see Bob Stoops throwing his assistant coaches under the bus after the Baylor game....
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 20, 2011 4:07:17 GMT -6
Leslie Frazier :-) Nothing like the Vikings going with their 124th straight unproven head coach to ruin the ship. That is very funny CF#1.
Mr. Saylor I hope you are reading tonight. This board is predictably somber as it should be.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2011 9:06:30 GMT -6
Have a friend for dinner. Keep Ed for your coach ;D The way you guys are tearing into Ed, there will be no leftovers for the Jack fans. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by bopelini on Nov 20, 2011 14:53:04 GMT -6
What's Joe Glenn up to these days? I'm just sayin'.......
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 20, 2011 15:04:03 GMT -6
What's Joe Glenn up to these days? I'm just sayin'....... Who knows if he would be a candidate or not but if this is to be done USD is going to have to do their due diligence and open this up to a national search. This would definately need to be done right. Too much as stake.
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 20, 2011 20:05:22 GMT -6
Let me start by saying I don't think it would be prudent to throw Ed under the bus because I do think he is good for USD. I will get into that later. I also do understand everyones frustrations regarding the 2 losses this season in games we held big leads, and I am one of them.
There are alot of things to consider before you even put up a poll that is valid. In order to vote I think everyone needs to know all the facts. The 2 losses to Poly and ND is just part of the equation. And when I rebut this argument with CoyoteFan, understand I am not taking the personal differences we may have into consideration. My point in this post before it gets out of hand is to make sure everyone understands ALL the rules before you cast a vote to keep or discard.
If I were the AD, I would first get the pulse of those close to the program. Literally go behind closed doors and ask them to spill it. It is critically important that you don't lose the base of funding that is in place right now.
Next I would ask other football minds that are familiar with FCS football to rate the talent that USD has in uniform. It is critical to know if we indeed are recruiting the quality of athletes we need to compete at this level. I don't think AD Sayler is necessarilly a football guy, but rather pretty well diversified. Then knowing that about myself, I would ask for candid evaluations regarding our talent level.
Once I knew the above 2 items, I would have a heart to heart with Coach Meierkort and ask him to give a candid self analysis. At this point you will know if he is BSing you or not, because you will know whether his supporters are at risk if he is shown the door or not, and you will have a good feeling as to whether or not you have the talent in place year after year to compete. If Coach Meierkort confidentially awknowledges that his staff is young and not prepared, I would then ask if he is willing to make the necessary change. If he admits that he is responsible for the late season losses, then I would ask for a written self analysis of what he would be willing to do to remedy the situation.
Then there is something in place that is out of control to all of those involved. And that is the BOR policy of everyone getting one year contracts. Many of you have "poo pooed" this notion, but I am telling you it makes people nervous. Because of this policy, I have to disagree vehemently with CoyoteFan that this is a desireable job. This has to be changed, not only for USD but the beloved Jacks as well. Without this one change, it will be nearly impossible to recruit an up and coming coach...head or assistant.
Now all of that being said, after reading my own post, where do I fall in this?
1.) I believe that Coach Meierkort has a solid base of donors that like him alot. He is not only good with them, but I think he is great. He'll sit and drink a beer, make jokes, and talk about Coyote football. Do NOT underestimate the value of this.
2.) Although I don't know for sure, I think the talent level is there. We have had a number of top drawer athletes play here the past 7-8 years.
3.) The self analysis is tough. And also needs to be private.
The bottom line is I trust David Sayler to do what is right. He is sports wise, and most importantly, he cares.
I will say this out front and not hide behind the poll where no one knows who voted for what. I would vote that Coach Meierkort stays as USD's head coach. He may have to concede some assistant coaches despite his personal take on it, but that would be his call. Ed Meierkort is good for USD and good for USD football. That is my non-expert opinion. Do i wish he would consider some changes? Of course I do. But I vote that Ed stays.
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Post by jackjd on Nov 20, 2011 20:30:23 GMT -6
yoteforever's counsel is wise. Meierkort has done a well-above-average job of recruiting and that's a huge part of the puzzle.
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Post by bopelini on Nov 20, 2011 20:34:25 GMT -6
Let me start by saying I don't think it would be prudent to throw Ed under the bus because I do think he is good for USD. I will get into that later. I also do understand everyones frustrations regarding the 2 losses this season in games we held big leads, and I am one of them. There are alot of things to consider before you even put up a poll that is valid. In order to vote I think everyone needs to know all the facts. The 2 losses to Poly and ND is just part of the equation. And when I rebut this argument with CoyoteFan, understand I am not taking the personal differences we may have into consideration. My point in this post before it gets out of hand is to make sure everyone understands ALL the rules before you cast a vote to keep or discard. If I were the AD, I would first get the pulse of those close to the program. Literally go behind closed doors and ask them to spill it. It is critically important that you don't lose the base of funding that is in place right now. Next I would ask other football minds that are familiar with FCS football to rate the talent that USD has in uniform. It is critical to know if we indeed are recruiting the quality of athletes we need to compete at this level. I don't think AD Sayler is necessarilly a football guy, but rather pretty well diversified. Then knowing that about myself, I would ask for candid evaluations regarding our talent level. Once I knew the above 2 items, I would have a heart to heart with Coach Meierkort and ask him to give a candid self analysis. At this point you will know if he is BSing you or not, because you will know whether his supporters are at risk if he is shown the door or not, and you will have a good feeling as to whether or not you have the talent in place year after year to compete. If Coach Meierkort confidentially awknowledges that his staff is young and not prepared, I would then ask if he is willing to make the necessary change. If he admits that he is responsible for the late season losses, then I would ask for a written self analysis of what he would be willing to do to remedy the situation. Then there is something in place that is out of control to all of those involved. And that is the BOR policy of everyone getting one year contracts. Many of you have "poo pooed" this notion, but I am telling you it makes people nervous. Because of this policy, I have to disagree vehemently with CoyoteFan that this is a desireable job. This has to be changed, not only for USD but the beloved Jacks as well. Without this one change, it will be nearly impossible to recruit an up and coming coach...head or assistant. Now all of that being said, after reading my own post, where do I fall in this? 1.) I believe that Coach Meierkort has a solid base of donors that like him alot. He is not only good with them, but I think he is great. He'll sit and drink a beer, make jokes, and talk about Coyote football. Do NOT underestimate the value of this. 2.) Although I don't know for sure, I think the talent level is there. We have had a number of top drawer athletes play here the past 7-8 years. 3.) The self analysis is tough. And also needs to be private. The bottom line is I trust David Sayler to do what is right. He is sports wise, and most importantly, he cares. I will say this out front and not hide behind the poll where no one knows who voted for what. I would vote that Coach Meierkort stays as USD's head coach. He may have to concede some assistant coaches despite his personal take on it, but that would be his call. Ed Meierkort is good for USD and good for USD football. That is my non-expert opinion. Do i wish he would consider some changes? Of course I do. But I vote that Ed stays.
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