drdank
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Post by drdank on Nov 23, 2011 9:39:31 GMT -6
USD needs to hire big if they want to play big. They need to let the world know Vermillion is next to Nebraska and not Alaska. We have a cupboard full of D-I players from around the country waiting to be developed and more on the way. Moving to the Valley will give them a decent grace period as long as the fans can see positives on the field.
The people who tore down Ed always sounded as if being a big fish in a small D-2 pond was where WE should have stayed. The Yotes have just weathered through a transition to D-I with D-2 coaches. Saylor made the right decision based on the future, but you can't discount the accomplishments and moral victories over the last 2 years. Thanks Ed for the players and heroics.
We are D-I NOW. Moving backwards to D-2 coaches will not produce anything better - and probably worse. Between transfers and lost recruiting lines to players outside of SD, we would be in Hell Valley. With Ed it would have been a 2 year transition to some success. Even a top D-2 coach would take 5 years.
USD needs an experienced Head Coach/Coordinator from a top program - FBS or FCS. We also need enough position coaches that can teach and are not learning themselves on the fly.
The key to attracting a quality staff goes back to the contract. Budget-wise we will need to continue to play 2 money games and on the road for non-conference FCS to get the size of cash to get the quality of coach. I said this before, if we can structure a series of 1 year contracts with performance clauses, we can stay in compliance with the state and create tenure while keeping the ability to fire a coach without a significant buyout.
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Post by 88grad on Nov 23, 2011 9:59:49 GMT -6
Will we have better luck with hiring a D1 coach or a D1 OC or DC looking to move up?
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 23, 2011 10:18:27 GMT -6
FWIW, you guys that want Caruso can cross him off the list. A D3 coach with no true D1 experience. If we had hired a guy with his resume and a past affiliation to, say UMD, instead of USD you guys would be all over Saylor. No, this next coach will have D1 experience.
I trust the AD to make a good hire. Saylor's job is officially on the line with this hire, he's taking ownership of this athletic program and not passing the buck or being complacent. This is the bright spot in all this.
Another thing this move does is to give notice to other USD coaches that they need to perform. I'm thinking of one coach in particular right now that has had great success at USD, has had a solid transition (just like Ed), but hasn't even had the signature wins that Ed had on his resume. I'm sure the old guard and old money at USD will call me crazy, fine, but the writing is on the wall that this is not D2 anymore. More is expected.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Nov 23, 2011 12:40:14 GMT -6
I would like you to say who it is Yote 53, because I think I know who you are talking about.
I am perplexed that no on has mentioned Urban Meyer yet. He would be the perfect fit....ok, ok...
Yeah, I am not on board with Caruso since he is a D-III guy. It needs to be someone with D-I experience either as a coach or high-end off. or def. coordinator.
Josh Heupel is someone that comes to mind for me here, too, along with Joe Glenn. Other than that, I don't have too many more names to really throw out there.
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Post by 88grad on Nov 23, 2011 12:55:45 GMT -6
So Joe Glenn's in his, what, early 60s? I guess that's not too old but how long would someone like that stick around? Do we need someone to stick around 10 years or more? I dunno...
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Post by coyotega on Nov 23, 2011 13:41:52 GMT -6
Josh Heupel makes 330K per year at Oklahoma and, as a key asst, likely has a two or three year deal.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 23, 2011 13:50:40 GMT -6
It's very simply to me. Let the process play itself out. Let each and every resume come in and maybe reach out to contact some that don't take the initiative themselves. There will be plenty of candidates to choose from and it sounded from Sayler's interview that he has no preconceived notion on who the coach should be. Who knows if that is correct but hopefully this is truley an open nationwide search.
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Post by joeybrownerhof on Nov 23, 2011 14:39:14 GMT -6
At best we get a succesfull d-2 head coach, FBS position coach, FCS coordinator or a retread head coach with ties to SD.
Not saying any of that is bad but to think a Josh Heupel will come to SD is tomfoolery.
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Post by GoYotes on Nov 23, 2011 15:12:17 GMT -6
Jeremy Hoeck tweeted that an interim head coach will be named today.
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Post by usdfbalum on Nov 23, 2011 15:50:54 GMT -6
Wes Beschorner was just named interim head fb coach
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Post by dklemme on Nov 23, 2011 16:36:59 GMT -6
Caruso has a great gig here in the Twin Cities. He has a brand new athletic building, great alumni with $$$, and can get good kids to come there. He has St. Thomas ahead of St. Johns now and can continue to dominate at that level. The sun shines out his arse up here gentlemen. It would cost a lot and he'd want a lot of say to leave this top notch program up here.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 23, 2011 17:36:22 GMT -6
Caruso has a great gig here in the Twin Cities. He has a brand new athletic building, great alumni with $$$, and can get good kids to come there. He has St. Thomas ahead of St. Johns now and can continue to dominate at that level. The sun shines out his arse up here gentlemen. It would cost a lot and he'd want a lot of say to leave this top notch program up here. With all respect don't count on it meaning that he wouldn't leave St. Thomas. He was the most dominant offensive coordinator in D2 when he was at USD and he left that. He would leave St. Thomas in a heartbeat if USD offered him the head coaching job. If he was loyal he would still be at USD and would possibly be promoted to head coach. St. Thomas is a nice program but they are still D3. He isn't staying D3 forever.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Nov 23, 2011 22:50:04 GMT -6
Yes, i realize Heupal is a huge reach, but why wouldn't you call him? Not saying he is going to come, but you give the S.D. guy a call. What's the worst you can get, a no?
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Post by joeybrownerhof on Nov 23, 2011 23:07:25 GMT -6
We would be lucky if he answered the call. He makes north of 330k at a bsc powerhouse. His career tract is pretty much set. Taking a gig at a new fcs school would be career suicide. Indy state, I realize they blew dong, got lucky with a position coach from a failing bcs staff and he was an alum.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 23, 2011 23:14:51 GMT -6
What exactly is Heupel's resume. If he is no more than a quarterback's coach at Oklahoma and hasn't had any other head coaching experience why exactly would he be a good candidate. I am not stating, I am asking?
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