at Western Illinois

[94grad]

Is it just me or would we be wise to keep JVM on the field, but only as a recipient of the ball (WR, TE, Tailback, Whatever) and not a deliverer of the ball? The definition of "athlete" is subjective, but isn't JVM possibly the best athlete on the team? I think he can definitely add value on the offensive side of the ball, just not at the QB position.

Bruise Brothers numbers have been down a bit over the last couple weeks, but I have a feeling that will change drastically when we suddenly have a passing threat. Get Earl in there to start slinging the ball around and suddenly those safeties can't creep up to the line.

There are no more excuses for Special Teams. Mark me down as one of the fans that took long snappers for granted. Pray that the changes above reduce the number of times we need to punt.

[Yotes]

Sept 28, 2013 17:18:22 GMT -6 Coyote Fan said:

Sept 28, 2013 17:07:44 GMT -6 obc said:

Special teams miscues

Wide receivers wide open and not getting the ball

Two other USD players passed for more yards than JVM today

Rushed for under 100 yards.

Defense was adequate but got tired keeping the team in the game after the offense went three and out.

This was a game against an equal talent team and we lost convincingly. Special teams coach should be terminated and Wes and Glenn should be too if Earl is not taking the snaps next week. Put JVM in if you want a wildcat look at times.

Teams have figured out what the USD coaches should have - JVM cannot beat you throwing. Just clamp down on the run and get your punt returner ready.

Hallelujah we have someone on the other side of the fence so I am not the only one standing there. It's amazing how Joe Glenn gets the longest of ropes during a time where almost every decision he makes appears to be the wrong one. What happened to the Northern Colorado, Montana and Wyoming coach that had so much success in the past. He certainly had to make better decisions at those times than he does now. Something is wrong with Joe Glenn, maybe he is burned out, never truly wanted to coach again or whatever. There is definitely something that Joe Glenn is not doing right. How many weeks or seasons do we have to wait before he gets his s**t together. He is not the same coach he used to be, there is certainly no way that he is or this team would have started looking better by now. If this game doesn't convince the majority we are not heading in the right direction than no other games is going to get any easier. NDSU won a national title with a young team so I would expect USD to at least put together a competitive team on the field in the MVFC if youth is the excuse.

The cupboard was completely empty when he got here, and optimistic expectations had us finishing 8th or 9th in the conference this year. I think you are going way too far saying he doesn't want to coach anymore after (a very disappointing) loss. NDSU had some ground to stand on when they recruited a young class capable of winning a NC. Glenn's full class was recruited with a 1-10 season as a platform. Different.

Benching JVM would absolutely rattle his confidence, and isn't a decision to make lightly. The implications are great, and Glenn gave him a chance to right the ship this year. A third of the season gone, perhaps he has seen that the team will go nowhere with JVM and we'll see Earl starting next week. You have to stick with your QB to a point, and we are very near that point if we haven't reached it already, but if Earl doesn't work out then we will be in an even worse position than we were before.

If we don't win next week I fear another 1 win season.

[obc]

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[canislatrans]

Minus the special teams blunder, the Earl drive ties the game. Earl deserves a chance to lead the team. I have been as patient as anyone with JVM, and the coaches who have chosen him as starter, but I believe next week we're going to see a change. If we could sustain a drive and put some pressure on the opponent's defense to defend the pass as well as the run, we would have won this game, and multiple games in the MVFC this year.
We have talented, albeit young, but talented WRs. Our defense is stout, it's just sustaining a drive on offense and fixing the mess that is special teams.
I will say this, if Earl starts, it is going to be an adventure. Expect inconsistency, however, I think if he gets a good year of experience this year, with the young WRs, he and the Yotes could be in real good position his JR/SR years.
The defense was solid, with that many 3 and outs, in critical times, you would expect some bending, as they did today. If the offense gives them some support, they are beginning to look like a force.

[sd4ever]

If Earl doesn't start next week I will probably not watch. The Yotes are quite the joke right now. Would we be in the top half of the NSIC? I will be shocked if there is another win this season.

[notkiotees]

Well, everybody loves the backup QB...including me! I think it's time to give Earl a chance to sink or swim.
If he sinks, how is that different than what we have now.

[wylie]

Coaches made a major error in not recruiting a long snapper. I spoke with a parent of a MV snapper who couldn't even get a return email/phone call from the coaching staff. Unbelievable!! Why in the world recruit a good kicker and punter when nobody can get him the ball? This was a huge momentum killer today.

[gbnative]

Amen brother Wylie. And why go for a 50 yd FG in wind and rain?

[yoteforever]

Sept 28, 2013 21:14:27 GMT -6 gbnative said:

Amen brother Wylie. And why go for a 50 yd FG in wind and rain?

The wind was at his back and the rain falling wasn't that bad. The ball was on the 32, 4th and a bunch. If you punt it's likely the ball goes to the 20 ( 12 yards ). If you go for it, you turn the ball over there. Missing a field goal is the same result.

For what it is worth, he had plenty of distance. He was wide right maybe 2-3 feet. It wasn't an easy decision. I understand it.

[yoteforever]

If I'm the father of our kicker, I would be proud and honored my sons coach thought enough of my son to give him an opportunity. I wouldn't undermine the staff for doing that.

[teamsd]

I have heard around town that USD had a long snapper commit, however he decided not to join the program over the summer. Doing what we can with what we have, I suppose.

[Yotes]

Sept 28, 2013 20:51:34 GMT -6 wylie said:

Coaches made a major error in not recruiting a long snapper. I spoke with a parent of a MV snapper who couldn't even get a return email/phone call from the coaching staff. Unbelievable!! Why in the world recruit a good kicker and punter when nobody can get him the ball? This was a huge momentum killer today.

Yeah, word is we had a long snapper commit skip out on us. It has proven to be a huge problem for us in almost every game so far this season too.

About the 50 yard field goal; I feel we have a very, very good kicker, and a punt would have netted 15-20 yards at best, so a field goal was the best option since it was 4th and very long. Listening on the radio, it sounded like he had the distance, but not quite the accuracy. Bergner seems to have quite the leg, but I don't know if I can stand 4 years of Van Goor saying "Bergener" instead of Bergner.

[yotelaw]

I'm not much of a poster; I prefer to read all your fine opinions. But like many others today, I can't help but weigh in on the state of the current program.

Obviously, I think the offensive side of the ball is our biggest hurdle right now. While I have great respect for what JVM brings to the table, and to this point I have supported the decision to leave him as the starting QB, please count me among those who would like to see Earl as the starting QB next week. It seems to me that one of the things the coaching staff probably likes about JVM is that he is fairly conservative with his passes and doesn't make a lot of high risk throws. As a result, he doesn't throw a lot of picks. But at this point, I think it's fair to start taking some risk. I am willing to accept Earl throwing the occasional pick in exchange for having an offense that poses a legitimate two-dimensional attack. If we can force defenses to start showing even a small amount of respect for our passing game, I think it will really open up the rest of our offense. That being said, I agree with the others who have suggested that we should try to find a way to keep JVM on the field. He is obviously a talented athlete, and it would be a shame not to have him on the field. WR seems to be the most natural fit, but I have no idea if he's capable of catching a pass.

Special teams continues to be a serious problem for the Yotes. I think I would probably be about the last person to call for a coach's job, but I honestly think we need to make a change at the special teams position. It's gotten beyond ridiculous at this point. We went out and recruited a HS All American kicker, but it seems like he's only able to get the ball away about half the time. I think he is going to have a very nice career for the Yotes, but we need to shore up the rest of our special teams first. This is a huge area of concern, and it simply doesn't seem to be getting better.

Having said all that, I do not agree with Coyotefan and others who are calling for coach Glenn's head. Even if we finish 1-10 this year and don't come close to winning another game, I will continue to support Glenn as the head coach. In my mind, we went "all in" when we picked Glenn as our head coach. We put our faith in a guy who had not only proven he could win championships at this level, but was also a die-hard Coyote. There was and continues to be no one - and I mean absolutely no one - with a resume like Glenn's who would be even remotely interested in the USD head coaching position. In my mind, the future of the Coyote football program lives or dies with Glenn's tenure. He's either going to turn to the program into an annual title contender, or, as some have suggested, his best years may have past him by, and the program will descend into a consistently average to below-average FCS team. And to that end, I think we owe it to the coach to give him an opportunity to build the program his way - with his recruits and his system. These things don't happen overnight. Yes, NDSU managed to win a national championship with a young team, but guess what? We're not NDSU. We don't have the facilities, the resources, or the winning tradition that they have. We're basically starting from scratch, and it takes a lot of patience and perserverance to build a program from what we started with. Maybe in the end things won't work out with coach Glenn, but I'm willing to give him at least another couple years to give it his best shot. In the end, if it doesn't work out, so what? Would we really be any worse off than we are now? I for one am willing to gamble with the prospect of a few more years of mediocrity in exchange for the possibility of becoming a true FCS national title contender. In my mind, no one gives us a better chance of that than Joe Glenn.

My main concern at this point is recruiting. While we had an outstanding recruiting class last year, it's going to be hard to continue to get classes like that if we can't prove that the program is moving in the right direction. If we finish 1-10 for the second consecutive year, it's going to start getting pretty tough to win those recruiting battles. So I'm hopeful that we can pick up at least a couple more wins before the season is over.

[usdfbalum]

Have had a night to sleep on and digest what I saw yesterday. The disappointment on the USD bus ride must have been intense. I hope it was.

I support the University, go to games, do what I can financially, encourage other disconnected alumni to go to games to grow the program. I will keep doing this, but my concern is that the casual fan is being beaten into oblivion. The coaches know this and I am confident they are doing everything they know to do.

Several issues stick out to me of concern:

It is unfortunate if a kid backed out as the potential long snapper. But snapping is a learned skill that could have been solved if the issue was dealt with immediately with the proper intensity. That is poor leadership of the team. Whether that is on the special teams coordinator or the HC. That is a leadership fail.
Punt protection beyond the snap has been poor. Find a way to protect the punter. Every week teams find a way to consistently get pressure on our kicker.

JVM is a great young man. He has proven he cannot with any regularity be a passing threat. USD is not physical enough to muscle up and run when even an average FCS defense stacks the box. He has been given a chance and the results are obvious. Find other ways to use the athleticism and speed he has in a position where he doesn't have to throw the ball.

It is concerning that the coaches could not or chose not to address the QB problem earlier. If they really thought Earl was that bad and could not replace JVM with him, they needed to find a transfer. Other schools do it all the time.

This program is a doormat and it is unacceptable. There are definite disadvantages USD currently has versus other Valley schools. Those disadvantages do not however mean that we can't snap the ball on punts, protect the punter, have a QB that can complete a pass.

Petrino has shocked me with how well he has his unit playing on defense with virtually zero offensive help. When the defense gives up 17 points to W Illinois and 17 to N Arizona we should be in a position to win.
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If this was a business that you were running and not just a fan, supporter, booster - how would you view this? This team has potential. The staff has recruited in some promising young players. They have to be put in position to be successful. Some former players will laugh at this but a former USD coach used to say when you hear the word "potential" think of a pile of dog crap. If you could split the atoms in that pile of dog crap it could unleash enough power to blow up the world. Until then it is just a pile of crap.

[wylie]

The staff clearly needs to recruit a snapper who is totally dedicated to snapping. Bringing in a position player who also long snaps sometimes works out, but then they never get the dedicated practice for timing with the punter/kicker, which is huge. I'm not saying people should be fired, but probably some reassignment may help.