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Post by yoteolfan on Oct 22, 2019 15:03:19 GMT -6
It is a weird situation going from the recruiting phase to showing up on campus. For the past year or more, all the coaches treat you like their best friend and tell you all the great things you'll do at their school and how awesome the whole situation is. You commit and they all jump around you and slap you on the back and get you all fired up and excited. Then you show up on campus and the mood has changed. Their goal is now winning football games, not getting you to come to their school. The coaches obviously saw something in you or you wouldn't be there in the first place, but now you're at the bottom of the totem pole. They have bigger things to worry about than if an underclassmen is 'feeling the love'. Some guys can handle that and others can't. Just need to put your time in and find your role on the team. I'm not going to retype it as it's listed up above, but if you don't like your role, you do have some options. Agree with this 100%. Development for players not in the line-up happens in the off-season, not typically during the season. During the season, the coaches need to focus on getting the guys who are going to play prepared. There isn't enough reps to go around to make sure the 3rd and 4th team guys feel "included" or love their role. That's part of being a team mate. For the guys that don't feel "the love", do something to earn that love then. I get tired of people bashing coaches because they "don't pay enough attention to everybody" That's a cop out and an excuse for someone that is either too naive to understand their talent or doesn't really want to be here. Do you think the XDSU's are giving equal reps to their 3rd and 4th team guys. If you do then you have your head buried in the sand. The difference is they don't have a bunch a guys that can't handle their roles as a special teams guy or a scout teamer until their opportunity comes. They understand the process, they don't quit as a sophomore and take their ball home because they didn't like their role. Go Yotes I never said that 3rd and 4th string players should get reps or equal reps. However, to again try to make my point, my questions to you are: 1. Why are the other XDSU's successful in keeping more players through their Senior years? (Remember this thread is about our lack of depth!) 2. If you work for a company and you are not happy - is it 100% your fault or is it the manager/leadership's fault? (Hint - 82% of people who leave companies do so because of their managers). All I am saying is that if some of the ACoaches took the time to speak with the 3rd string and below players on a regular basis - and this can be simply talking to them on the way to practice - and let them know what they are doing right and what they are doing wrong. it can go a long way in building a winning culture. Can you honestly say that you would love to work at a job where you receive NO feedback or only negative feedback for 4 months straight or more? Maybe your head is in the sand (or somewhere else) and you need to consider that either we suck at recruiting good players or some of our ACoaches aren't building a winning culture or maybe it is somewhere in between. Putting 100% of the blame on the players is some seriously flawed thinking.
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Post by yoteolfan on Oct 22, 2019 7:05:29 GMT -6
The Gibbs situation is a good example of how the assistant coaches treat players - especially Walk Ons and PWOs. The word I hear from the players I talk to is that a WO or PWO at USD, is just a piece of meat. I cannot speak for all positions, but I do know that our OL coach has told many 1st and 2nd year players that he doesn't feel that they are good enough to play for him so they leave. Let's put this into perspective here. Are most High School Freshman or Sophomores ready to start Varsity? No Way - Only the freaks are and guess what - they usually end up playing for Power 5 schools. The rest need to develop physically and mentally over the course of their first 2-3 years. If the expectation of this coach is that all of his players will come into the program game ready - NO WONDER NDSU kicks our tails every year! NDSU takes the time to develop and mature their players by encouraging them to continue to grind it out, learn and get bigger and stronger. How many freshman start for NDSU or SDSU versus USD? Not many because of how they develop their players for the long run.And specifically to the Gibbs situation, I point out the highlighted. He's been in the program for 2 years. Developing physically and mentally happens on the scout team. Most 1st, 2nd, and even 3rd year players spend time on the scout team, growing, maturing, developing, and biding their time. On one hand there are people saying he didn't get his chance and should be getting a chance to play. On the other hand there are posts saying we need to develop players over 2-3 years and bring them through the system. So which is it? Where do you all think that development happens? Where do you think NDSU and SDSU develop their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd year players? On scout team. I think that you are missing my point. What I am saying is that I believe that several of our position coaches do not know how to develop players. Successful programs find a way to keep players motivated as they grind through the learning years. Players are encouraged and can clearly see their goals. It is a cultural mindset. Yes these are young men that need to be mentally strong enough to endure the grind, but you also need position coaches there, coaching them to get better and helping the players see what they can become, not what they are today. Go to a couple of practices, talk to some of our players and you will see and hear that we have coaches that aren't 100% bought into developing all of their players. I think that we can all agree that a first year player will not be the same player 3-4 years later. They will develop and get better. Yes, some will leave the team as they realize what a massive time commitment D1 football is, but we shouldn't be losing players because position coaches are not coaching them. Winning programs embrace ALL of their players and have a desire to make them all better. That is how you build a successful program.
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Post by yoteolfan on Oct 21, 2019 7:52:38 GMT -6
The Gibbs situation is a good example of how the assistant coaches treat players - especially Walk Ons and PWOs. The word I hear from the players I talk to is that a WO or PWO at USD, is just a piece of meat.
The coaches basically tell WOs/PWOs that you are here to be scout team players - that is it. Of course this isn't the story they are told when being recruited, but it quickly turns into that once practice starts. This is part of the reason why our upper classman depth is so weak. Why grind it out if even when you play or practice well, you get shoved back to the bottom of the depth chart, especially if you are a WO or PWO. Where is the incentive to stay?
How about building a culture of competition and development?
I cannot speak for all positions, but I do know that our OL coach has told many 1st and 2nd year players that he doesn't feel that they are good enough to play for him so they leave. Let's put this into perspective here. Are most High School Freshman or Sophomores ready to start Varsity? No Way - Only the freaks are and guess what - they usually end up playing for Power 5 schools. The rest need to develop physically and mentally over the course of their first 2-3 years. If the expectation of this coach is that all of his players will come into the program game ready - NO WONDER NDSU kicks our tails every year! NDSU takes the time to develop and mature their players by encouraging them to continue to grind it out, learn and get bigger and stronger. How many freshman start for NDSU or SDSU versus USD? Not many because of how they develop their players for the long run.
If you look at successful programs (NDSU, Wisconsin, Minnesota under PJ FLeck and even SDSU) you will see that they celebrate the WOs and PWOs that work hard and they encourage them and their younger players to keep grinding and earn playing time and/or a starting spot - even if it ends up being in their Senior year. USD doesn't do this. They seem to be trying to weed out the young players before they have a chance to develop.
We do have a depth problem, but in my opinion it can be fixed with a change in mindset by the position coaching staff. Bob needs to step in here and change the culture before it is too late.
I realize that this is a pretty harsh assessment for a Monday morning, but I have been having this discussion with quite a few people lately and they all seem to agree that this is an issue.
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Post by yoteolfan on Sept 16, 2019 6:36:20 GMT -6
Something else that really screwed us over and pissed me off Saturday. Kai Henry taking a penalty after he scores. We can’t KO for a touchback, so then they get a return deep into our territory that leads to points. Henry should’ve had his ass benched right then. Then we waste a timeout because we’ve got only 10 guys in punt return formation. Then later we blow gain on first down because someone wasn’t lined up properly. Then we also burned another timeout in the second half on a third down. Crowd is in full throat after two decent plays and Sega calls TO and then we come out and give up an easy first down. We just look lost out there. Don’t get me started on not being able to rush it for 6 inches at the goal line. There are problems aplenty but I would look at one major factor that has been going on for some time. I have said it before and I will say it again, the OL coach needs to go. They are being coached to be pass blockers and pass blockers only. All of the real road graders have left the program because of the coach and his philosophy. That is why we can't score from the 6" line! This coach doesn't believe in coaching during the game and his negative attitude and posturing has turned the team culture toxic. Watch him during the game. He doesn't talk to his players! What kind of a coach does that?! Time to get rid of this guy and build a winning culture. As far as the DC - I would say that we need to give him some time to figure out how to adapt his philosophy to our opponents. He brought in a pretty extreme change to our D and before we pull the plug on him, lets give him more than 3 games to prove himself. Couldn't agree more about players getting penalties for showboating - bench them until they learn a little class.
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Post by yoteolfan on May 22, 2019 13:56:02 GMT -6
The ol adage ...” a football team is only as good as their line”! Let’s pray that we are in a better position than it seems🙏🏼 I didn’t realize they converted tight ends in to lineman😳 Was it just for spring or a permanent change? Does anyone know? What tight ends did we have that are possibly big enough to play O-line?? My understanding is that A. Jensen is a permanent move and they had Goehering coming over a great deal but uncertain if it was a permanent move. You also need to take into account that our OL coach told Seck last year that he wouldn't be a player for him, so Seck went to DL for a while, was asked to come back to play OL and is now vying for a starting role? If he hadn't decided to give OL another shot, we would be down yet another OL player. It really sounds like a cluster is going on with this key part of our team.
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Post by yoteolfan on May 22, 2019 8:21:54 GMT -6
I know that this distresses some members when someone points out something about the coaching staff, but let's not stick our heads in the sand. If the OL does not improve this year - dramatically - this OL coach need to go. I understand that he has been with our Head Coach for a long time, but that is not a good reason to allow a coach that clearly is in over his head, to keep his position. The OL has gone backwards since he took over and this year we will have no depth except incoming freshmen! We actually moved 2 TE's to OL in the Spring to have enough depth to practice and they played left tackle - in a passing offense! Can I ask what prompted you to post this today? Just thinking about the season and reading about how our competitors are excited about their teams.
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Post by yoteolfan on May 22, 2019 7:09:34 GMT -6
I know that this distresses some members when someone points out something about the coaching staff, but let's not stick our heads in the sand. If the OL does not improve this year - dramatically - this OL coach need to go. I understand that he has been with our Head Coach for a long time, but that is not a good reason to allow a coach that clearly is in over his head, to keep his position. The OL has gone backwards since he took over and this year we will have no depth except incoming freshmen! We actually moved 2 TE's to OL in the Spring to have enough depth to practice and they played left tackle - in a passing offense!
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Post by yoteolfan on Apr 30, 2019 7:44:40 GMT -6
For clarification - I did not say that he was making comments in the locker room last year. When he quit this Spring, that is when he told the players that a big reason was the OL coach and that he didn't want to play for him any longer. My understanding was that he was not a distraction during the season but was very clear when he left, why he was leaving. Also of note, Gilray, #63 has also left the team due to no longer wanting to play for the OL coach. With the departure of these 2 OL this Spring, USD just lost 2 of their 5 strongest OL on the team. Not a good trend!
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Post by yoteolfan on Apr 29, 2019 6:35:27 GMT -6
I wonder how much of this decision rests on the position coach.... . Absolutely zero. It was a personal decision and had nothing to do with coaches, players or the program. I wish him good luck in the future. This is not what he was saying in the locker room or the message he communicated to the OL players upon his departure... It was absolutely an issue with the current OL coach. We may have a bigger issue here as our OL situation is not looking good. We have zero depth, key players leaving the team and an extremely young OL going into the season. Last year one of our areas of strength was supposed to be the OL and how did that work out for us? Watching the Spring practices, it was apparent to me that our OL cannot stop a pass rush so the play calling was for quick hitting passes that protected the QB from getting mauled, mixed in with a little play action runs to attempt to keep the D off guard. How long is this going to work against the other teams on our schedule?
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Post by yoteolfan on Jun 21, 2018 7:03:51 GMT -6
I think Chisholm and Ruetz are not on the team anymore. The roster will be updated to the Fall roster, hopefully soon. I believe that Seck has moved to Defense and Ambrogio is still not cleared to practice or play.
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Post by yoteolfan on Jun 20, 2018 6:24:55 GMT -6
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Post by yoteolfan on Jun 19, 2018 13:01:36 GMT -6
Noticed a few players no longer listed on the football roster: two offensive linemen, freshman Jack Clement and soph Justin Lewis, also junior linebacker Matt Johnson. Don't really know much about any of these players. Things probably just didn't work out for them. That can happen to anyone. Best of luck and thanks for your efforts as Coyotes. Three more players no longer listed on the football roster: Tre Morris soph OL, Dodi Makwinja soph LB and Justin Heinrichs jr DB. No social commentary or panic at all, merely an observation. I think all were walkons. Wow - that gets us to 11 returning players on the OL with 4 more coming in as Freshman.
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Post by yoteolfan on May 31, 2018 7:40:48 GMT -6
Another Dad of a player chiming in here - the boys LOVE the new strength coaching team. They are building up the players in all areas - strength, flexibility and speed! So to recap - look for Bigger, Stronger, more Flexible and Faster players on the field this fall! The players are 100% bought into the program and are seeing amazing results. We truly have a world-class strength team that is going to make a big difference on the football field. Personally, I can't wait to see out boys hit the field this fall. From what I understood its called ""Olympic" lifting. I hear this style of lifting is proven to get results. Can't wait to see them in action his season! You are correct. Olympic lifting is all about explosive power versus just raw power. When training a football player, this is a key differentiation.
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Post by yoteolfan on May 30, 2018 7:48:09 GMT -6
Another Dad of a player chiming in here - the boys LOVE the new strength coaching team. They are building up the players in all areas - strength, flexibility and speed! So to recap - look for Bigger, Stronger, more Flexible and Faster players on the field this fall! The players are 100% bought into the program and are seeing amazing results. We truly have a world-class strength team that is going to make a big difference on the football field. Personally, I can't wait to see out boys hit the field this fall.
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Post by yoteolfan on Dec 7, 2017 8:29:51 GMT -6
But their could be an agenda for someone else to plant the rumor. It had to be the Russians! :>
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