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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 18, 2012 0:31:42 GMT -6
If Josh is the best than Glenn better hit the recruiting class hard and bring in two freshman quarterbacks that have a chance to play next season. If he recuits a couple of quarterbacks than can run and can't pass I am going to throw up a little.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Nov 18, 2012 3:53:25 GMT -6
yes, because in the history of college football, true freshmen are always a great idea to start right away....
I do agree that he needs to bring in a couple of freshmen QBs, but I would think they need to bring in a JUCO as well, since, like I said, freshman QBs do not have a good history of success...heck, even try and find a transfer.
I say one of the QB USD should take a chance on is Chase Marso. Why not at this point?
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Post by obc on Nov 18, 2012 6:09:15 GMT -6
JVM had a horrible fumble in the game and the rest of the offense watched as the SDSU player took it in for a score (over 40 yards). The other glaring error was the first play over-throw missing out on a sure TD.
Even with those errors - JVM was the second best offensive player for USD yesterday - Powell was the best.
USD lost mainly because SDSU controlled the line of scrimmage on both sides. The USD OL is weak and actually kind of fat. The SDSU OL was the best FCS line we saw this year. anyone else notice the glaring difference? I have heard SDSU's strength and conditioning program is very good and it shows on the field.
The OL and DL are the biggest position group holding USD back. They make everyone else look better when they control the LOS. Unless this is fixed things will not get better.
My final post game thought is this: a very bad USD team just played the best SDSU team of all time. SDSU scored two offensive TDs in the first half and a FG. We know USD had an opportunity to tie the game at 7 a piece early. The second half USD was in position to score after driving down the field three different times. SDSU only scored after they started with a very short field after the USD onside kick.
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 18, 2012 7:47:31 GMT -6
I hope the Jacks run up the score here in the last moment. They won't and the knee is taken inside the 10. In another post you say you want honest dialogue and not head butting with guys like me, then I wake up this morning and read this post. You wanted SDSU to score again and make it look worse than what it was? Why? Seriously here, why the hell would any Coyote fan want the score run up on his team unless he wants the staff fired? What other reason would you say this?
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 18, 2012 7:52:24 GMT -6
I'm sorry CoyoteFan, but just about every time I think you're ready to be civil on this board, you say stupid shit like that. You are already in a roundabout way orchestrating another board uprising to get the coach fired. The new coach gets one year in your mind? I truly am sorry and I apologize upfront to everyone on here, but you don't have slightest idea of what it takes to succeed and build a program. None.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2012 8:22:37 GMT -6
Well, I just turned off the broadcast I was receiving on this debacle. What a joke! To add insult to injury I could not get into this before the game got started. I ordered and paid for it last night. I had to reorder and pay again to finally get it about mid-way thru the first quarter. It would figure that the jackies would rip me off. Oh, and the audio was about 5 to 7 seconds ahead of the video which made it almost unwatchable. I'm gonna complain and ask for at least half of my money back. I guess I should not be surprised considering the source. Thank goodness this season is mercifully over. Somebody get in touch with me next year if the Yotes acually look like they are playing football again. Until then I don't really care. I bet I'm not the only one feeling this way either. See ya! That's not normal for an SDSU game feed at home. I had it all last year and never have have had a problem with it through this year. if it's an away game thats a different story. I'd be upset too.
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Post by 88grad on Nov 18, 2012 8:43:32 GMT -6
Pretty much everything went the way I was expecting it to. The way we played, the way State played, the crowds, the score and the post-game bitching. I was just hoping that I would have been surprised.
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Post by chuck on Nov 18, 2012 9:21:46 GMT -6
I am glad that the USD fan turnout was not so great. It shows that the common fan isn't gonna put up with this season and also that refutes the claim by many SDSU fans that USD people only care about this game. The only games I missed personally were UNI and SDSU out of protest for this season other than the games far away from home. I want to set the example that I care much more about USD than I care about this rivalry. I haven't gone to a State-U game of any sport to prove that the State-U game is not more important than just being a fan of South Dakota. Apparently many others share this view and should IMHO. Coyotefan, I would encourage you to think a little harder about this "vote with your wallet" and "hoping for disaster" position. The time to "vote for your wallet" is when a coach has had adequate time and it is clear that things will continue to decline if things don't change (e.g., Bill Callahan). Right now is the exact opposite time--we clearly have a qualified and dedicated coach who is attempting to build momentum in the program. Support, not a lack of it, is what is needed now as we enter critical periods towards the common goal of building a strong Coyote football program.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 18, 2012 13:08:06 GMT -6
I'm sorry CoyoteFan, but just about every time I think you're ready to be civil on this board, you say stupid shit like that. You are already in a roundabout way orchestrating another board uprising to get the coach fired. The new coach gets one year in your mind? I truly am sorry and I apologize upfront to everyone on here, but you don't have slightest idea of what it takes to succeed and build a program. None. So what if I said that or not. It was heat of the moment. I don't really care one way or another if SDSU scored or not. I will say I am not one of those guys that complains about running up the score or not. I believe in general a team should try to beat the other by as many points as possible. SDSU has some impressing to do to try to get into the playoffs. By now maybe it has been announced.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 18, 2012 13:10:03 GMT -6
I am glad that the USD fan turnout was not so great. It shows that the common fan isn't gonna put up with this season and also that refutes the claim by many SDSU fans that USD people only care about this game. The only games I missed personally were UNI and SDSU out of protest for this season other than the games far away from home. I want to set the example that I care much more about USD than I care about this rivalry. I haven't gone to a State-U game of any sport to prove that the State-U game is not more important than just being a fan of South Dakota. Apparently many others share this view and should IMHO. Coyotefan, I would encourage you to think a little harder about this "vote with your wallet" and "hoping for disaster" position. The time to "vote for your wallet" is when a coach has had adequate time and it is clear that things will continue to decline if things don't change (e.g., Bill Callahan). Right now is the exact opposite time--we clearly have a qualified and dedicated coach who is attempting to build momentum in the program. Support, not a lack of it, is what is needed now as we enter critical periods towards the common goal of building a strong Coyote football program. The vote with your wallet I get. What do you mean hoping for disaster. I have alway and currently want this Coyote program to start winning. That has never changed.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 18, 2012 13:22:14 GMT -6
Pretty much everything went the way I was expecting it to. The way we played, the way State played, the crowds, the score and the post-game bitching. I was just hoping that I would have been surprised. Generally the more of an uprising there is after a loss or after a bad season the more the fans care. That is just the way it is and the way it should be. I don't see nearly enough of an uprising from Coyote Fans considering the season they just went through. If this season happened to the Bison or Jacks their boards would have multiple pages of fans complaining and whining. Just look at any well followed sports team. That is the way it is. There is a definate disconnect between USD graduates and active USD sports fans. When the Argus Leader did the color the state red or blue bit there were actually more USD grads than State grads listed as residing in Sioux Falls. That was very surprising to know considering the Argus is so slanted towards SDSU. After a season like this the last thing I want to do is come to the fan board and read how everything is going to be ok. We have had enough of the be patient and wait it out talk. That has happened since 1988 so maybe it's time for a different approach, one of urgency and non acceptance. " I think everyone knows that Glenn is probably going to remain head coach. I accept that eventhough I am about 50-50 whether he should remain head coach. One thing I will not accept is a lack of accountability within this program. If people have had their chance and haven't come through it's time to go in another direction, for example special teams coach and OC. Why is is that Coyote Football seems be the place where coaches come to learn or be groomed. It should be the place where coaches that are proven at their art come to display what they are already seasoned to do.
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 18, 2012 13:27:02 GMT -6
I'm sorry CoyoteFan, but just about every time I think you're ready to be civil on this board, you say stupid shit like that. You are already in a roundabout way orchestrating another board uprising to get the coach fired. The new coach gets one year in your mind? I truly am sorry and I apologize upfront to everyone on here, but you don't have slightest idea of what it takes to succeed and build a program. None. So what if I said that or not. It was heat of the moment. I don't really care one way or another if SDSU scored or not. I will say I am not one of those guys that complains about running up the score or not. I believe in general a team should try to beat the other by as many points as possible. SDSU has some impressing to do to try to get into the playoffs. By now maybe it has been announced. So what if I said it or not? You admit you want your team to get embarrassed. That's the only point I was making. It leads to credibility issues from past and down the road. That's all. Thanks for admitting it.
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 18, 2012 13:38:34 GMT -6
Listen close CoyoteFan if you are capable. Once again you come to this board beating your chest for accountability of the program. When just one year ago now, you led this DUMP ED campaign on this board because YOU WERE FED UP. Then AD Sayler hires what I would call a safe pick, you lauded him for that pick, and now here we are after one season wanting another coach. But more importantly, the great COYOTEFAN wants accountability.
In fact, you demand it. Or what? You will withdraw your personal and financial support? You don't give squat, so that arguments a waste. By your own admission, you weren't at the UNI or SDSU game as your way to protest. Protest what? Protest what you asked for last year? You certainly fill the bill as the kind of supporter I want in my corner if I was the AD (rolling my eyes). Holy crap man, Coach Glenn barely has moved into his house, and you want his hide. My God, please refrain from beating your chest until you fulfill the following:
1.) Full time member of the Howling Pack 2.) Season ticket holder 3.) Giver to capital campaigns 4.) Attend at least 1-2 road games per year
Once you have done the above, then you can DEMAND ACCOUNTABILITY. We are still paying for what you wanted last year.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 18, 2012 14:38:43 GMT -6
If Yoteforver was running things honestly he probably would only allow Howling Pack members to attend games. Isn't paying for tickets to attend games financially supporting a program? Getting a $100 Howling Pack membership is over-rated compared to if a fan that actually attends games and buys single game or season tickets.
This football team doesn't really deserve the support from the fringe fans out there. This is a day and age where the common fan isn't going to automatically show up to games anymore. You call me out but have you ever considered that I sat through almost every game in the 90's and watched Coyote teams that could barely walk and chew gum at the same time. I think I deserve the right to boycott a couple of games out of past loyalty. Yoteforever I am guessing you are old enough and supported the program enough to remember those days. I am seeing an unfortunate repeat of those days just beginning in the last few years.
I supported the Glenn hiring eventhough I don't think a true national search was done like I thought should have been the case. USD people got tunnell vision when Glenn became a possibility and when it comes to truly objective hiring practices I think that is a mistake.
Just because I supported the hiring doesn't mean I think we should all just sweep this season under the rug because isn't that what alot of us are doing. Even if you give Glenn alot of benefit of the doubt this football team did not look well coached. Generally a first year coach will have some positive impact if he is indeed a good coach. I was not predicting or expecting miracles but Glenn should be held accountable for alot of what happened this year. Hasn't Glenn already put his endorsement behind our OC who hasn't proven even for one season that his offenses look FCS ready. Glenn also put his endorsement behind a quarterback that almost all Coyote Fans wanted to see benched.
When Glenn makes those calls and stands behind players that just don't look like they can get it done, should we hold Glenn somewhat accountable for that? Why is it that 80% of Coyote Fans can seem to get that the Yotes would be better off with Earl over Vander Matten. The coach doesn't agree and I guess he should know best. He sticks with his guns and goes down in a blaze for the decision. Should Glenn accept responsibilty for that? Shouldn't fans demand answers?
Glenn seems to be going against conventional wisdom for whatever idea when it comes to decision making.
The bottom line is that we just went through another season of Coyote Football and we are as behind the curve as we have ever been. Why is it that transition seemed to have the opposite effect for this team. It seems like the futher into transition and now eligibilty the Coyote get the further away they become from being a good FCS program.
Are we really going forward, sideways or backwards as a program right now? That might be the most interesting question to answer of a season full of questions.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 18, 2012 14:48:09 GMT -6
I have become to judge based on a win-loss oriented system but apparently I am in the minority. A win is a win and a loss is a loss. Close does not count especially considering that the Coyotes generally lose 90% of their close games. So close really isn't as close as many would like to believe. An example or that was just this weekend. The Yotes played the Jacks tough for alot of the middle portion of the game. What was telling to me was that as soon as the Yotes got a touchdown and a sliver of momentum they gave it away as fast as a blink of the eye. The Jacks felt just a tad threatened then proceded to thrash the Coyotes defense when they really needed to.
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