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Post by gorabbits on Nov 18, 2014 12:12:19 GMT -6
In all probability, a third consecutive trip to the playoffs is on the line for SDSU. They have to win to be under consideration by the selections committee. So the Jacks have plenty to motivate them for this game. Hopefully as many as 5 or possibly 6, if YSU beats NDSU, Missouri Valley teams will be in the playoffs. NDSU and ISUred are locks. NIU, SDSU and ISUblue should also make it if they win this weekend and YSU can qualify for consideration with 7 wins if they beat NDSU. Great year for the Valley.
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Post by golfingyote on Nov 18, 2014 12:27:27 GMT -6
Posts from "Yotes": "I've got my tickets (not sure why we went through the trouble of getting tickets when all that's keeping us out is a dinky chain link fence). Never been to a game up there, can't say I'm excited to experience their "stadium" either." "I believe we are set to go check out the practice facility, some sort of pre-game ordeal I guess. Sounds like the weather is going to be about as good as one can expect on Saturday, otherwise I'd probably be hanging out in there just to get away from the cold." Yotes (not the group, the poster): You do not seem very happy about going to the last USD vs. SDSU football game at the wornout and tired Coughlin Alumni Stadium. Visiting fans have been having a great time at all the games this year...even last Saturday's snow bowl. But, judging from the two posts quoted above, you have to reconsider your decision to go to Brookings. Is somebody holding a gun to your head? Stay home and enjoy whatever it is you prefer to do. If you do decide to attend the game, lighten up and have some fun. You will not be forced to go through any pre-game ordeal (how do you come up with such goofy notions?)...you won't be forced to do anything. Present yourself as a reasonable person and you'll be treated as such.
Yoteforever: are you coming up? The 1978 USD defense featuring you and your colleagues, the notorious "Pack Patrol", can revisit the scene of the crime in your championship year: USD 24, SDSU 7 before it is permanently changed. Yotemeal; Cousin Eddie: You seems to be able to find free beer...coming up? We'll have lots of it. Jeff will be there. Personally, I have been to the last two NDSU-SDSU games at Coughlin and I found that overall experience (tailgate, Game atmosphere, post game) to be better than any game I have ever been to in the dome (sdsu-usd game last year maybe even with this). Maybe its just something about being outdoors but I have always had a good time at SDSU pre game and during the games. |
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Post by jackjd on Nov 18, 2014 12:36:22 GMT -6
Will you be attending Saturday, golfingyote?
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Post by golfingyote on Nov 18, 2014 13:04:39 GMT -6
Will you be attending Saturday, golfingyote? Absolutely, I will be at both Cubby's and tailgate with the vermillion leo's crowd at some point before the game. |
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Post by fightsd on Nov 18, 2014 13:41:19 GMT -6
Taking some criticism on this thread for believing this will be a different coyote team than we have seen this year. I'm standing by it. Once again this is a rivalry game FOR US. There is a disconnect between a lot of jacks fans and players, I've talked to several of both. SDSU players don't consider this game a rivalry. Do they want to win? Sure, but in their minds their rival is the Bison. The only edge we may have this week is the fact that our guys know this is the most important game of the year. Year in and year out, regardless of our record, this is the most important game of the year.
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Post by yote14 on Nov 18, 2014 13:41:50 GMT -6
In all probability, a third consecutive trip to the playoffs is on the line for SDSU. They have to win to be under consideration by the selections committee. So the Jacks have plenty to motivate them for this game. Hopefully as many as 5 or possibly 6, if YSU beats NDSU, Missouri Valley teams will be in the playoffs. NDSU and ISUred are locks. NIU, SDSU and ISUblue should also make it if they win this weekend and YSU can qualify for consideration with 7 wins if they beat NDSU. Great year for the Valley. I agree ISU and NDSU are locks. I also think Northern Iowa is a lock even if they lose this weekend. I know a lot of people think that 6 or 7 teams are going to get in from the valley but I just do not see that happening. 5 would be the max. Indiana State wins and I think they get the 4th spot even though SDSU beat them. They have more quality wins in their OOC. So it comes down to SDSU and YSU. I beleive SDSU will win on Saturday easy unless theres a huge shift in the universe. So it will all come down to if YSU can win in Fargo on Saturday. If they do they get the 5th spot and SDSU is hoping to get a 6th which I just do not think will happen. YSU loses and its a coin flip between SDSU and YSU for that 5th spot with the other hoping they take 6 from the MVFC. |
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Post by golfingyote on Nov 18, 2014 13:58:04 GMT -6
Taking some criticism on this thread for believing this will be a different coyote team than we have seen this year. I'm standing by it. Once again this is a rivalry game FOR US. There is a disconnect between a lot of jacks fans and players, I've talked to several of both. SDSU players don't consider this game a rivalry. Do they want to win? Sure, but in their minds their rival is the Bison. The only edge we may have this week is the fact that our guys know this is the most important game of the year. Year in and year out, regardless of our record, this is the most important game of the year. But it is also the most important game of the year for them. I think thats what alot of us are saying. If they win, they are likely in the playoffs. So presently, it is their most important game of the year. They were in the same situation last year and they played it like a playoff game (win and keep playing scenario). And its not that suprising people in their program dont consider us a rival. Last time we played there, they could have put a 50 spot on us if they hadnt called the dogs off. |
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Post by gorabbits on Nov 18, 2014 14:11:33 GMT -6
In all probability, a third consecutive trip to the playoffs is on the line for SDSU. They have to win to be under consideration by the selections committee. So the Jacks have plenty to motivate them for this game. Hopefully as many as 5 or possibly 6, if YSU beats NDSU, Missouri Valley teams will be in the playoffs. NDSU and ISUred are locks. NIU, SDSU and ISUblue should also make it if they win this weekend and YSU can qualify for consideration with 7 wins if they beat NDSU. Great year for the Valley. I agree ISU and NDSU are locks. I also think Northern Iowa is a lock even if they lose this weekend. I know a lot of people think that 6 or 7 teams are going to get in from the valley but I just do not see that happening. 5 would be the max. Indiana State wins and I think they get the 4th spot even though SDSU beat them. They have more quality wins in their OOC. So it comes down to SDSU and YSU. I beleive SDSU will win on Saturday easy unless theres a huge shift in the universe. So it will all come down to if YSU can win in Fargo on Saturday. If they do they get the 5th spot and SDSU is hoping to get a 6th which I just do not think will happen. YSU loses and its a coin flip between SDSU and YSU for that 5th spot with the other hoping they take 6 from the MVFC. The selection committee has a history of short changing the MVFC in recent years, for example only two teams made it last year in spite of it being the best conference in FCS by all accounts. The 22-1 record of the conference this year in OCC game against FCS schools should carry some weight. Supposedly, the selection committee looks strongly at the GridIron Power Rankings, a composite of selected polls and computer rankings, in making it selections. Here are the latest rankings in the GPI. 1. NDSU 2. ISUred 5. UNI 7. SDSU 11. ISUblue 15. YSU (3 of their wins are agains lower level FCS schools, either no or limited scholarships) 17. SIU (SIU can't get to 7 DI wins which is unofficially the minimum for selection, so they won't be in consideration) In theory, if the first five listed all win, you can make an argument that not only should they all get in but four of them should get first round byes. That obviously won't happen, but at the least NDSU and ISUred should get first round byes. www.collegesportingnews.com/articles/20141118gpi.htm |
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Nov 18, 2014 14:13:29 GMT -6
Im not buying that USD is not a rival of SDSU. They are the only 2 schools in SD at this level of athletics. It is just a saying state fans use to try and degrade the U since the transition. Any true State or U fan knows that the other school is their biggest rival. If they say otherwise they either are not a true fan or started following either school during the transition.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2014 15:05:46 GMT -6
Coach Glenn's take on the rivalry:
"This is our rivalry game," he said. "Maybe we've got to beat South Dakota State someday for us to be their rival again. In time, it will be a rivalry again – there's no doubt."
It is still a rivalry game, just not as big as the SDSU/NDSU one imo.
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 18, 2014 15:33:47 GMT -6
SDSU minimalizes USD and the rivalry by claiming it's not a rivalry. It's the hardest shot you can take at rival school, claiming you've gone on to bigger and better things. I don't know how they support the claim that NDSU is their biggest rival. There's hardly a student left on SDSU's campus that can remember the last time the Jacks beat NDSU in football. What has it been? 5 years now? I suppose you could say the same for USD and SDSU except for the fact this is an in-state deal which is much bigger than anything those two schools fabricated. I do have to give them credit, the manufactured rivalry they put together when they went to D1 together was a heck of a sales job. So good, in fact, there is a lot of revisionist history going on. When that Dakota Marker game was announced both sides believed it was forced, but they ended up buying it hook, line, and sinker. Of course the Jacks got something out of the deal, riding on the coattails of NDSU's success and being mentioned in the same breath as an "equal".
As for the game, it's one of the games I truly do not enjoy. Last year was the worst home game experience I had and that was simply due to interacting with SDSU fans. No other fan base has been worse, IMO. This game is for all the USD fans whose primary reason for going D1 was so "we get to play State again". Well, enjoy the game because it seems this game is all some people care about. Me? I care about contending for the conference and making the playoffs. You know, the rest of the entire season that means a heck of a lot more than one single game. If USD wins Saturday and I hear one person say "well, at least we beat State" I think I'll blow a gasket.
As far as I am concerned this obsession that some USD people have for playing SDSU and this "rivalry" game is what is holding us back as a football program. Too many are simply content the game is scheduled again. This thing is beginning to remind me of Iowa/Iowa State, with ISU playing the role of "little brother" even though they beat Iowa all to often. ISU never does anything else with their football program. It's a one game season to a lot of those fans. At least we beat Iowa. Is ISU football something we want to emulate at USD? I sure as heck don't. At least we beat State. If that's what it is going to be I am off this train right now.
I've had my fun enjoying all the other games on the schedule. The record stunk this year but I can honestly say I had some good times going to Coyote games this season, even if it was painful to watch at times. As for this Saturday, I have other things I'll be doing that day so I won't be in attendance.
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Post by 88grad on Nov 18, 2014 15:50:06 GMT -6
If we could win a few games against the jacks maybe then I could step into Scheels without being blasted by blue and yellow EVERYWHERE I LOOK
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Post by jackjd on Nov 18, 2014 18:48:56 GMT -6
...But it is also the most important game of the year for them. I think thats what alot of us are saying. If they win, they are likely in the playoffs. So presently, it is their most important game of the year.... No question this game is turning out to be the most important one of the season for SDSU. State's only realistic chance of extending the season is a win on Saturday. I suppose many will claim its a little corney or trite but the team's 1-0 goal each week is really what they focus on. This weekend's game is huge because of what a win may mean. golfingyote: Good choice with Cubby's and tailgating. Cubby's will be really packed after the game. There are some new places that will also be packed including Buffalo Wild Wings which is just a couple blocks south of SE corner of campus. One post was making light of the Dakota Marker Trophy. The record for the trophy stands at NDSU 7, SDSU 4. In the series, SDSU's last win was 2009 (SDSU won it 04, 07, 08, 09) while NDSU is on a run of five straight (10, 11, 12, 13 & 14 and Bison also won in 05 & 06). Link to Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakota_Marker |
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Post by jackjd on Nov 18, 2014 19:36:53 GMT -6
Im not buying that USD is not a rival of SDSU. They are the only 2 schools in SD at this level of athletics. It is just a saying state fans use to try and degrade the U since the transition. Any true State or U fan knows that the other school is their biggest rival. If they say otherwise they either are not a true fan or started following either school during the transition. Like sandakotastate, I accept that there's a rivalry between USD and SDSU but the biggest rivalry right now for SDSU is NDSU. Just my opinion. So in coyotecrazie5's opinion I'm not a true fan or I only started following SDSU during transition. coyotecrazie is wrong. Isn't the discussion about rivalries a little dumb at this point? SDSU dearly wants to win this game. I assume USD does too. That's all we need for a reason to show up and yell for the team you want to win. |
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Post by Yotes on Nov 18, 2014 20:21:23 GMT -6
Some fans claim it's not a rivalry, but I can surely tell you after living in Brookings for a while that anyone who claims that is putting on an act. Personally, I absolutely hate the State-U games. It's just a toxic ordeal, and I admit I do little to help that reputation, but every time I've seen these two get together in person it has not been fun. I'd rather have the game on the schedule rather than avoiding it entirely in the Big Sky, but not by much. It would be nice if this were a more fun rivalry, but the cultures of the two schools are so different that there is always going to be plenty of animosity.
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