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Post by Cousin Eddie on Sept 30, 2015 5:57:31 GMT -6
This is the number reported to FAFSA right now. They need to get it back to $5k to make it work. Your AD has stated to others that it is $9k presently and everybody is perplexed how that can be. Most speculation is that there was a mistake the last time the number was calculated.
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Sept 30, 2015 6:08:24 GMT -6
I think it speaks more to the fact the USD Foundation does a tremendous job with fundraising and the money is out there in our alumni base. Basically, we have resources to tap into and a means to do so. Then why ask the students for money to fund your athletic department? Just call the foundation and say you need a few million to catch up with the other schools in South and North Dakota? Sorry, you started this with the your earlier post. The reality is so far USD doesn't have the money to pay for FCOA. Your President, when asked stated it would be the Howling Pack who would help pay for it. You are correct in your earlier post. SDSU will do it. We will wait to make the announcement when we have the money. That's how we do things. Its why we have had a pretty successful transition into the D1 world. Not NDSU successful but we have made the FB playoffs multiple years. Our Men and Women BB teams have played in multiple NCAA tournaments, baseball and volleyball have both made it into the NCAA tournament, a lot of new facilities including IPF, FB stadium, baseball field, softball field, soon upgrades to Frost. An NBA draftee, some guys in the NFL, couple major league BB players, all since moving up. I'm comfortable with how our adm has handled things. I will be comfortable when they do FCOA, the right way. Huh? We will have the money to do it. Abbott doesn't make rash decisions - I think our transition to D1 has proven this. Yes Howling pack, a scholarship group, will help fund it. The same way you will eventually fund it. Where do you think your athletic scholarships get funded? Yes, the foundation comment above by somebody was misleading, if not inaccurate. It is a fact that USD's foundation has a much larger endowment than SDSU. However, it is also a fact that USD has not used its funds to spend on projects, rather choosing to pay for projects through donations, secured by the guaranty of the foundation. To be clear, the funds coming from the students for athletics will NOT be used to fund the FCOA. In fact, they cannot be used for that purpose. Funds from the students are intended to cover the cost of increased staff in coaching and admin.
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Post by yoteforever on Sept 30, 2015 6:28:10 GMT -6
Then why ask the students for money to fund your athletic department? Just call the foundation and say you need a few million to catch up with the other schools in South and North Dakota? Sorry, you started this with the your earlier post. The reality is so far USD doesn't have the money to pay for FCOA. Your President, when asked stated it would be the Howling Pack who would help pay for it. You are correct in your earlier post. SDSU will do it. We will wait to make the announcement when we have the money. That's how we do things. Its why we have had a pretty successful transition into the D1 world. Not NDSU successful but we have made the FB playoffs multiple years. Our Men and Women BB teams have played in multiple NCAA tournaments, baseball and volleyball have both made it into the NCAA tournament, a lot of new facilities including IPF, FB stadium, baseball field, softball field, soon upgrades to Frost. An NBA draftee, some guys in the NFL, couple major league BB players, all since moving up. I'm comfortable with how our adm has handled things. I will be comfortable when they do FCOA, the right way. Huh? We will have the money to do it. Abbott doesn't make rash decisions - I think our transition to D1 has proven this. Yes Howling pack, a scholarship group, will help fund it. The same way you will eventually fund it. Where do you think your scholarships get funded? Yes, the foundation comment above by somebody was misleading, if not accurate. It is a fact that USD's foundation has a much larger endowment than SDSU. However, it is also a fact that USD has not used its funds to spend on projects, rather choosing to pay for projects through donations, secured by the guaranty of the foundation. To be clear, the funds coming from the students for athletics will NOT be used to fund the FCOA. In fact, they cannot be used for that purpose. Funds from the student are intended to cover the cost of increased staff in coaching and admin. Y Well put. Very well put
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Post by yoteforever on Sept 30, 2015 6:36:15 GMT -6
I think it speaks more to the fact the USD Foundation does a tremendous job with fundraising and the money is out there in our alumni base. Basically, we have resources to tap into and a means to do so. Then why ask the students for money to fund your athletic department? Just call the foundation and say you need a few million to catch up with the other schools in South and North Dakota? Sorry, you started this with the your earlier post. The reality is so far USD doesn't have the money to pay for FCOA. Your President, when asked stated it would be the Howling Pack who would help pay for it. You are correct in your earlier post. SDSU will do it. We will wait to make the announcement when we have the money. That's how we do things. Its why we have had a pretty successful transition into the D1 world. Not NDSU successful but we have made the FB playoffs multiple years. Our Men and Women BB teams have played in multiple NCAA tournaments, baseball and volleyball have both made it into the NCAA tournament, a lot of new facilities including IPF, FB stadium, baseball field, softball field, soon upgrades to Frost. An NBA draftee, some guys in the NFL, couple major league BB players, all since moving up. I'm comfortable with how our adm has handled things. I will be comfortable when they do FCOA, the right way. Cousin Eddies response was 100% dead on. What I would add is the last thing a Jack fan wants to do is make flippant comments about our President. Jim Abbott has done more for the University of South Dakota than any president of any college in this state has ever thought about doing. To insinuate that Abbott made the decision "off the handle" to fund COA is ridiculous. The regents hopefully have learned one thing from Abbotts tenure, and that it is not only ok to hire a businessman to run your university, it should be a requirement. Jacks fans, you do not want to debate the effectiveness of university presidents between the two schools, you will lose that argument everyday, and twice on Sunday.
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Post by canislatrans on Sept 30, 2015 7:32:40 GMT -6
Cousin Eddie and Yoteforever are killin' it on the fan board this AM, well done.
"and that it is not only ok to hire a businessman to run your university, it should be a requirement."
Gospel
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Sept 30, 2015 7:40:45 GMT -6
I want to make something abundantly clear. My post was in no way, shape or form intended to start a flame war over the University and the State College ( ). I just wanted some issues to cleared up before the conversation spins off into fantasy land - from either side.
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Post by Yote 53 on Sept 30, 2015 8:21:03 GMT -6
You're fine Cuz. Jacksfan29 post was intended to flame. He states USD doesn't have the money when, in fact, he has no idea about the financials at USD. Then he goes on to list SDSU's successes in transition, as if we aren't experiencing similar things. Yeah, football has been rough, but last I checked our other sports were experiencing success at the D1 level and we are building new facilities in Verm just like they are up in Brookings. Then he implies we are doing things the wrong way, as if the SDSU way is the only way to do things. Get out of here with that crap. Glad he is comfortable with SDSU's administration as I am comfortable with the way our administration is doing things as well.
A little note about hiring a businessman to run a University. It appears the Iowa Board of Regents took note as they have hired a businessman as the next president of the University of Iowa.
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Post by yote14 on Sept 30, 2015 8:21:42 GMT -6
The direction I was going with my original post was the money is there for USD. We just have not always supported the athletics department with the money or help direct the money alumni were giving to support the athletics deaprtment. I'm happy that we finally are giving the money to Athletics and being a leader in doing so.
We seem to be embracing athletics more since going DI and helping filter or persuade the donations to athletics more so than in the past. With the rich giving history for educational purposes there is no reason to think its so impossible for USD to offer FCOA over other schools as wabbit posters have stated. I just get tired of the how can USD do it before SDSU thought process that has started as the wabbit posters on here have verified with thier USD/Abbott is doing FCOA unratioanlly and before USD has the money for it comments. I too said its only time before they do it.
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Post by Yotes on Sept 30, 2015 9:32:32 GMT -6
Who would have guessed that the school with the Medicine, Law, Business, PA, PT, OT programs has money? Weird. You really wouldn't think those highly employable and lucrative degree programs would help us in any way.
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Post by oldhare on Sept 30, 2015 11:40:49 GMT -6
Cousin Eddie and Yoteforever are killin' it on the fan board this AM, well done. "and that it is not only ok to hire a businessman to run your university, it should be a requirement." Gospel I ran into Abbot at Minneapolis airport before he made a run for political office a few years ago. He introduced himself to the group of South Dakota people waiting for the flight in which the majority had Brookings area as home. South Dakota people will always talk to each other when you see them on the road. He is also a great representative to the public for your institution since I also know nothing about the finances of USD. I am not certain how many university presidents would get involved in shooting the breeze with people in the airport. He seemed to be a good character.
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Post by Yotes on Sept 30, 2015 12:04:06 GMT -6
Cousin Eddie and Yoteforever are killin' it on the fan board this AM, well done. "and that it is not only ok to hire a businessman to run your university, it should be a requirement." Gospel I ran into Abbot at Minneapolis airport before he made a run for political office a few years ago. He introduced himself to the group of South Dakota people waiting for the flight in which the majority had Brookings area as home. South Dakota people will always talk to each other when you see them on the road. He is also a great representative to the public for your institution since I also know nothing about the finances of USD. I am not certain how many university presidents would get involved in shooting the breeze with people in the airport. He seemed to be a good character. At the last football game Abbott and his wife were introducing themselves to a lot of tailgaters, including our group. This is something not at all uncommon for him to do. Abbott makes it a point to get out and be a man of the people. I also would think this is not typical behavior for a university president, but am very pleased to see it here.
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Post by fightsd on Sept 30, 2015 12:38:14 GMT -6
I think it speaks more to the fact the USD Foundation does a tremendous job with fundraising and the money is out there in our alumni base. Basically, we have resources to tap into and a means to do so. Then why ask the students for money to fund your athletic department? Just call the foundation and say you need a few million to catch up with the other schools in South and North Dakota? Sorry, you started this with the your earlier post. The reality is so far USD doesn't have the money to pay for FCOA. Your President, when asked stated it would be the Howling Pack who would help pay for it. You are correct in your earlier post. SDSU will do it. We will wait to make the announcement when we have the money. That's how we do things. Its why we have had a pretty successful transition into the D1 world. Not NDSU successful but we have made the FB playoffs multiple years. Our Men and Women BB teams have played in multiple NCAA tournaments, baseball and volleyball have both made it into the NCAA tournament, a lot of new facilities including IPF, FB stadium, baseball field, softball field, soon upgrades to Frost. An NBA draftee, some guys in the NFL, couple major league BB players, all since moving up. I'm comfortable with how our adm has handled things. I will be comfortable when they do FCOA, the right way. Gimme a break. I realize you're from state, but at least TRY and think before you post something.
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Post by ctc2010 on Sept 30, 2015 23:57:16 GMT -6
Then why ask the students for money to fund your athletic department? Just call the foundation and say you need a few million to catch up with the other schools in South and North Dakota? Sorry, you started this with the your earlier post. The reality is so far USD doesn't have the money to pay for FCOA. Your President, when asked stated it would be the Howling Pack who would help pay for it. You are correct in your earlier post. SDSU will do it. We will wait to make the announcement when we have the money. That's how we do things. Its why we have had a pretty successful transition into the D1 world. Not NDSU successful but we have made the FB playoffs multiple years. Our Men and Women BB teams have played in multiple NCAA tournaments, baseball and volleyball have both made it into the NCAA tournament, a lot of new facilities including IPF, FB stadium, baseball field, softball field, soon upgrades to Frost. An NBA draftee, some guys in the NFL, couple major league BB players, all since moving up. I'm comfortable with how our adm has handled things. I will be comfortable when they do FCOA, the right way. Cousin Eddies response was 100% dead on. What I would add is the last thing a Jack fan wants to do is make flippant comments about our President. Jim Abbott has done more for the University of South Dakota than any president of any college in this state has ever thought about doing. To insinuate that Abbott made the decision "off the handle" to fund COA is ridiculous. The regents hopefully have learned one thing from Abbotts tenure, and that it is not only ok to hire a businessman to run your university, it should be a requirement. Jacks fans, you do not want to debate the effectiveness of university presidents between the two schools, you will lose that argument everyday, and twice on Sunday. It's safe to say they know how much Abbott means to USD... I mean they even named a residence hall in Brookings after him...
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Post by yoteforever on Oct 1, 2015 6:17:58 GMT -6
Cousin Eddies response was 100% dead on. What I would add is the last thing a Jack fan wants to do is make flippant comments about our President. Jim Abbott has done more for the University of South Dakota than any president of any college in this state has ever thought about doing. To insinuate that Abbott made the decision "off the handle" to fund COA is ridiculous. The regents hopefully have learned one thing from Abbotts tenure, and that it is not only ok to hire a businessman to run your university, it should be a requirement. Jacks fans, you do not want to debate the effectiveness of university presidents between the two schools, you will lose that argument everyday, and twice on Sunday. It's safe to say they know how much Abbott means to USD... I mean they even named a residence hall in Brookings after him... GOOD ONE CTC....LOL I was in Brookings yesterday and drove around their campus and missed that.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 1, 2015 6:30:29 GMT -6
My sis used to live in Abbott. She had to state and then explain the name in the same breath haha
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