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Post by Yote 53 on Dec 1, 2015 9:18:22 GMT -6
When I saw that USD hired a firm to assist with the coaching search that was the best news I have heard all football season and right up their with the NDSU upset. They will be of huge assistance in this process and will probably put out names that maybe Herbster would not have seriously considered. I am so happy that Herbster decided to go this route and I think he is a smart man for having done it. It is vital to get this right and if it takes 2 more weeks than it would have originally it's 2 weeks well spent despite the recruiting setbacks. It's 1000 times more important to take the time necessary than to rush the hire just to get a little bit more time recruiting. It would be nice if this consulting firm would go as far as to have a rep sit in on the interviews as well. They are a professional firm for a reason because they know what the h**l they are doing. A professional consulting firm was instrumental in assisting UND in picking their new nickname. Go Fighting Hawks  ! Just saying. |
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Post by Yote 53 on Dec 1, 2015 9:21:36 GMT -6
Not saying Stugart would be a bad hire, but it definitely doesn't get me fired up. This is where I am at as well. 'Underwhelmed' would be the word I would use. I'd give him a chance but I'd be skeptical of having too much success. |
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Dec 1, 2015 9:25:39 GMT -6
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Post by nccyote on Dec 1, 2015 9:51:11 GMT -6
I think its pretty safe to say that Wesley will not be the next head coach at USD. After reading Herby's list of qualifications, he meets none. I wish Wesley nothing but the best and I know that he is a good coach and will land on his feet somewhere. My money is that he finds a D-2 or D-3 HC job. UW-LaCrosse is open, wouldn't shock me if his name is involved with that job.
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Post by geauxsioux on Dec 1, 2015 11:20:08 GMT -6
USD would be wise to consider Dale Lennon. Perfect style and great in this area of the country. He had some great players from SD when he was at UND.
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Post by Yote 53 on Dec 1, 2015 11:42:35 GMT -6
Except that he already failed while at SIU, a team USD beat this year. Why would USD take a castoff from another school so soon after he has been let go? I get every coach gets fired at some point, my point is that Lennon shouldn't just lateral into another MVFC head position. Probably best that he works some other gigs, reinvents himself, and works his way back up the ladder.
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Post by Yotes on Dec 1, 2015 11:47:35 GMT -6
You just don't see a head coach get fired ten rehired as head coach for someone else in the same conference. He can be one of our coordinators but not the head coach.
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Post by nccyote on Dec 1, 2015 12:59:28 GMT -6
You just don't see a head coach get fired ten rehired as head coach for someone else in the same conference. He can be one of our coordinators but not the head coach. Unless you are in the SEC and get fired after averaging over 9 wins a year and won 2 conference titles and Georgia fires you. Sounds like Mark Richt is a popular name in the South Carolina discussion. I agree, I don't think Lennon should get hired in the Valley after getting canned by SIU. I'm sure he will have many options as he has been a very successful HC in D2 and his 1st 2-3 seasons at SIU. |
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Post by Yotes on Dec 1, 2015 13:47:44 GMT -6
You just don't see a head coach get fired ten rehired as head coach for someone else in the same conference. He can be one of our coordinators but not the head coach. Unless you are in the SEC and get fired after averaging over 9 wins a year and won 2 conference titles and Georgia fires you. Sounds like Mark Richt is a popular name in the South Carolina discussion. I agree, I don't think Lennon should get hired in the Valley after getting canned by SIU. I'm sure he will have many options as he has been a very successful HC in D2 and his 1st 2-3 seasons at SIU. Mark Richt is the rare case of a coach with a great record getting the boot. Could be a huge mistake for them. This would be akin to UNI firing Farley after this season. He would get looks from any MVFC team looking for a head coach. |
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Post by wiley on Dec 3, 2015 11:06:28 GMT -6
Hearing Bob Nielson, Western Ill head coach, formerly of MN - Duluth is getting some serious consideration.
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Post by obc on Dec 3, 2015 11:15:22 GMT -6
Hearing Bob Nielson, Western Ill head coach, formerly of MN - Duluth is getting some serious consideration. Solid coach. Looks like his salary is $199,896 at WIU. He made $168,830 at MN Duluth as AD & FB coach. |
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Dec 3, 2015 11:17:46 GMT -6
Hearing Bob Nielson, Western Ill head coach, formerly of MN - Duluth is getting some serious consideration. Makes sense. He sort of has a connection here. I have heard the resources at WIU are the worst in the MVFC and that it isn't really close. He seems to be being a lot with a little there. Getting WIU into the second round of the playoffs is no small accomplishment. He has only been there 3 seasons. That is pretty nice work. He also did great things at UMD. Also, it tends to line up with the timeline. Barring an announcement by tomorrow that a coach has been hired, I think it is pretty safe to say that our new coach's team is still playing. |
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Post by nccyote on Dec 3, 2015 11:20:08 GMT -6
Hearing Bob Nielson, Western Ill head coach, formerly of MN - Duluth is getting some serious consideration. Would he consider jumping ship to another Valley school? I am not disputing the claim, but I would wonder if leaving a playoff team, after turning them around, to go to another program in the same conference that has been under .500 since turning FCS would make sense. Are WIU facilities, commitment to the football program, and athletic dept. bad enough for him to seriously consider leaving after turning the Leathernecks into a playoff team? |
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Dec 3, 2015 11:24:41 GMT -6
Hearing Bob Nielson, Western Ill head coach, formerly of MN - Duluth is getting some serious consideration. Would he consider jumping ship to another Valley school? I am not disputing the claim, but I would wonder if leaving a playoff team, after turning them around, to go to another program in the same conference that has been under .500 since turning FCS would make sense. Are WIU facilities, commitment to the football program, and athletic dept. bad enough for him to seriously consider leaving after turning the Leathernecks into a playoff team? I've never been there to see them, but I have heard on more than one occasion that they are bad. I believe the exact quote was "worst in the conference." |
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Post by Yote 53 on Dec 3, 2015 11:33:57 GMT -6
There is more going on in the background at WIU, and the rest of the schools in Illinois. The state budget is a dumpster fire and university's budgets are being slashed left and right. If the facilities, etc. are bad now, that situation is only going to get worse. If I'm this coach I would think very seriously about another opportunity in conference, especially now that he has had some success he needs to do it while the opportunity is open. He'll be coming to a school with more resources, a plan to offer COA, better facilities, and an athletic department and university that is growing, not declining. This is an opportunity to keep moving up the ladder. A lateral move to a conference school, parlay the success there to something at the next level. Bottom line is the coach needs to look at the situation and decide which school has the higher ceiling. I firmly believe that, while WIU has had a great year, they can only go so far, and that USD is a program that offers a higher ceiling.
The XDSU's can make fun of the DakotaDome and USD in general all they want. The reason they do it is because they are rivals out to troll us, not because what they say is based in fact. The proof is in the structures we are putting up and the money we are spending. Unfortunately in this internet message board world, with these two fanbases repeating crap often enough everybody starts believing it to be true.
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