The Search for the Coyotes Next Head Coach

[Cousin Eddie]

My dream list is Brad Salem

(Huge gap)

Josh Heupel

(Big gap)

Everybody else

[Coyote Fan]

Salem was solid but not spectacular at Augustana and I believe he has only been an assistant since. I think the Yotes could do much better. Heupel barely has OC experience let alone head coaching experience. He is just not very proven and frankly I don't really see an upside with him either.

[wintheday]

All I know is that whoever they hire, the University better be ready to pay up to try and lure a higher profile coach (or even to try and get an established coach out of a comfortable situation). Glenn made $145,000 this past year (almost $45,000 less than Craig Smith). Stiegelmeier makes $195,500 for State and Steckel from Missouri State's base salary is $270,000. I understand USD won't be paying out that much, but they'd better be ready to open up the checkbook to compete in the MVFC. Do not get me wrong, USD is an extremely attractive job, but I think that we can shoot for higher than a Stugart. Sit back and prepare because I'm sure Herbster is going to be getting a lot of applications from all over the country if they choose to do a national search (which they should in my opinion, nothing wrong with sitting back and seeing who's interested). I would say the new coach's base salary will be somewhere around $190,000-$200,000, if not, I would seriously wonder where the priorities lie with the university.

Just a quick list of coaches that I can find in the MVFC (Within probably a couple thousand)

Glenn (USD): $145,000
Sanford (IND ST): $190,000 in 2014 (signed a new undisclosed extension after playoff appearance last year)
Stiegelmeier (SDSU): $195,000
Nielson (WIU): $206,000
Pelini (YSU): $213,000
Lennon (SIU): $220,000
Klieman (NDSU): $261,000
Spack (ISU): $268,000
Stugart (MO STATE): $270,000
Farley (UNI): $296,000

Coaches get paid extra based on media appearances and camps, some of these I would bet include that, others not. Just a general idea of where USD should be looking. $145,000 was a steal.

[Cousin Eddie]

Nov 22, 2015 19:43:21 GMT -6 Coyote Fan said:

Salem was solid but not spectacular at Augustana and I believe he has only been an assistant since. I think the Yotes could do much better. Heupel barely has OC experience let alone head coaching experience. He is just not very proven and frankly I don't really see an upside with him either.

Salem took Augie out of the tank and built them up. - last two seasons were 8-4, the most wins in a season for Augie ever.

His AC role has been under one of the best head coaches in football, he is the QB coach of a likely first round pick, he is their recruiting coordinator, when RB coach he trained Le'veon Bell.

By way of comparison, Riggs coached an NAIA team (no recruiting rules) and is now "stuck" in the IFL.

There is no comparison.

[88grad]

Any guesses on how long Joe's decision was known to Herbster and the rest of the football staff? Just kept on the down low until today? I have to think that this wasn't an "out of the blue" decision that caught everyone of guard. Or maybe I'm totally wrong - but that's why I asked.

[Cousin Eddie]

Josh is young, no doubt, but played under Bob Stoops with OC's Mike Leach and Mark Mangino, was the heisman runner up, won a national title, coached under Stoops, was QB coach for Sam Bradford ( Heisman winner), had prolific offenses as OC later. He is well connected in the JUCO ranks and is leading a strong, balanced offense at Utah State in his first year there.

[Yotes]

I'm not impressed with the Jed Stugart name. He has, what, 1-2 years of success at a D2 school where he was setup very nicely? I get the feeling a lot of coaches would have done just as well.

I don't know that we are ready to write a check big enough to capture the best interested candidate and their staff. Lord knows the state of South Dakota's one-year contracts won't help anything. From what I can see we paid our entire staff a total of $635,000 this season. I don't know for sure how that compares to our peers in the MVFC but I have a guess that it is the lowest. If we want to be competitive and make having a football team worthwhile we are going to need to push that number closer to the $1,000,000 mark than the $500,000 mark.

Being a flagship university and turnaround opportunity we are going to get a lot of interest. The position might be even more appealing to outsiders when they see the foundation that Joe Glenn has been working on. Money might not be everything to the interested candidate too when they see a program capable of so much more than they have been accomplishing. Craig Smith for example took a pay cut to come to USD and perhaps he wouldn't have if not for the clear potential the program had and the boost his career would gain from being the guy to work us up to that potential.

Should be a few weeks before we know for sure. This search should be opened up nationally which means waiting past December 5th when the FBS regular season ends and first two rounds of FCS playoffs have been completed. Guess I'll just bide my time watching basketball until this thing heats up.

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Nov 22, 2015 20:15:55 GMT -6 88grad said:

Any guesses on how long Joe's decision was known to Herbster and the rest of the football staff? Just kept on the down low until today? I have to think that this wasn't an "out of the blue" decision that caught everyone of guard. Or maybe I'm totally wrong - but that's why I asked.

This is why I personally believe USD has already made their decision.

My guess is USFs coach is hired within the next couple weeks.

[teamsd]

Nov 22, 2015 21:30:11 GMT -6 SDSUAlum08 said:

Nov 22, 2015 20:15:55 GMT -6 88grad said:

Any guesses on how long Joe's decision was known to Herbster and the rest of the football staff? Just kept on the down low until today? I have to think that this wasn't an "out of the blue" decision that caught everyone of guard. Or maybe I'm totally wrong - but that's why I asked.

This is why I personally believe USD has already made their decision.

My guess is USFs coach is hired within the next couple weeks.

I think you're on to something, SDSU.  good luck in Missoula.  Show them what the Valley is made of.  

[coyotecrazie5]

Any idea on what Huepel makes at Utah St?

[Coyote Fan]

I will not deny it I like the USF coaching tree. I don't know if Jed would be my #1 or not but I wouldn't have a problem if he ended up being the guy. With his resume he went to a national title game in USF's last year in NAIA. He had a couple of average years in there but overall he has been very good with the Cougars in a transition time to the D2 game. He turned them into a top 20 D2 team in almost no time. I am pretty sure he was the coach when USF went into Grand Forks and upset North Dakota. They almost did it two years in a row actually. Whoever it is that is head coach they better have a vision and want their own complete staff to coach with them. Hopefully the new coach whoever they are aren't majorly handcuffed with budget restraints.


Jed Stugart Year-by-Year
Sioux Falls (2010-present)
Head Coach

~ 44-13 overall

~ 11-1 in 2014 (3rd, NSIC)

~ 6-5 in 2013 (5th, NSIC)

~ 9-2 in 2012 (4th, NSIC)

~ 5-4 (2011)

~ 13-1 (2010)

~GPAC Championship (2010)

~ NAIA National runner-up (2010)

UNLV (2009-10)
Assistant Coach- Linebackers

MidAmerica Nazarene (2006-08)
Head Coach

~ 26-7 overall

~ Two postseason appearances

~ HAAC Championship (2008)

~ AFCA Region 3 Coach of the Year

Northern Colorado (2003-05)
Assistant Coach- Defensive Coordinator

Northern Colorado (1999-2002)
Assistant Coach- Defensive Line & Linebackers

[Yotes]

Nov 22, 2015 22:01:39 GMT -6 coyotecrazie5 said:

Any idea on what Huepel makes at Utah St?

I tried finding what Utah State pays him but couldn't find the figure. I did see that Oklahoma had him at $550k before being let go and that Oklahoma is paying the difference between 550k and his USU salary. Might have been hired at a bargain since he was going to get that salary no matter what.

[Coyote Fan]

I am still luke warm on Salem but after looking at Huepel more he did have alot of success with Utah State's offense this year. Get ready for this though, his offense ranks 9th in the nation in FBS in passing. That is alot of chucking it up in the Dakota Dome. When looking at Utah State's recent results I am surprised how good of a program they have had the last few years. Look at the points they put up on teams this year.

31 on Washington
33 on Colorado State
56 on Fresno State
52 on Boise State (wow)
58 on Wyoming (not a real big deal)
31 on Nevada

[dklemme]

I was talking about the next hire with some guys I coach with here in MN, and we agreed that to get Caruso away from St Thomas, I'd take at least $200k to pull him away. Great athletes want to go there, he's given pretty much whatever he wants, and he's winning...a lot. I don't know him well enough from my encounters on what type of guy he is, but he can get kids to play at a high level. I don't know if he'd be a better recruiter for the U. It's easy to find the kids he needs to play ball at his D3 level. I once had a convo with Glo about moving to D1, he said it's easy to find a 6'2 230 lb kid and you can make him into anything. Much harder to find the 6'4 245 kid. I don't see why coaches come looking in at the cities some more. There are some tweeters that could be difference makers. Got the kid from Park, but he wasn't even the best in our conf. Few kids in North St Paul, they can play. Thumbleson's (80s RB Thad is his dad) that kids a beast at fullback.
I kind of went all over here, but I wouldn't be opposed to a option type offense. A kick ass def that gust makes plays, and solid special teams. If the O can hold the ball and shorten a game, and the d is simple and aggressive, bend don't break, we will have a winner here gentlemen. Yes we will.

[golfingyote]

I think Stugart will get a lot of traction due to being a known and popular coaching name in this region. I think Salem is an intriguing name as well Cuz. Anyone have an idea on what some of these guys are making at their current jobs? Lets be honest, money talks, and you hav to think we are looking at 175-200+ to get someone with a pedigree like Salem. He makes us an instant presence on the recruiting trail. Herbster has shown he has the jeuvos to do what it takes in these situations. It could not have been the easiest decision for him to make the right call with Joey in MBB a few years ago. Herbie will do his due dilligence, and I have all the faith in the world we will end up with a great coach for the future of coyote football.