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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 24, 2015 9:40:43 GMT -6
"If Rhoads was hired, some would say awesome, and others would say he lost at Iowa State so he's a loser."
I want you guys to think about this for a second, Paul Rhodes routinely lost to NDSU and UNI while at Iowa State. At Iowa State he had a P5 Big 12 program with 85 scholarships, practice facilities, and everything else that comes along with being at a P5 school. Yet come the beginning of the season these Valley teams would come in and lick their chops in excitement about beating a P5 school. They expected to win those games against the Clones. Given all that, and all those resources he had to work with, what makes any of you think he would be successful at USD where he will have less to work with?
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 24, 2015 9:54:58 GMT -6
"If Rhoads was hired, some would say awesome, and others would say he lost at Iowa State so he's a loser." I want you guys to think about this for a second, Paul Rhodes routinely lost to NDSU and UNI while at Iowa State. At Iowa State he had a P5 Big 12 program with 85 scholarships, practice facilities, and everything else that comes along with being at a P5 school. Yet come the beginning of the season these Valley teams would come in and lick their chops in excitement about beating a P5 school. They expected to win those games against the Clones. Given all that, and all those resources he had to work with, what makes any of you think he would be successful at USD where he will have less to work with? You're beating a dead horse. I'm not endorsing him. My point is if Paul Rhoads, or Les Miles, or any other freshly fired FBS coach came, some would see it as a coup. Others would be like you and that's ok. I only used his name because there is discussion on it. We are on the same side. I'm on the record here: I'M NOT ENDORSING PAUL RHOADS |
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 24, 2015 10:12:35 GMT -6
Never claimed you were but some posters brought his name up. Just had to remind everyone how poorly he did with the resources he had at hand. I get the excuse of not winning in the Big 12, Ames certainly has some disadvantages in that conference, but nobody can explain away his losing to FCS schools and the general feeling that Valley teams went in there expecting to win quite often.
Les Miles. Yeah, I'd be all over that but somehow I think we are a little too low profile and out of his price range.
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Nov 24, 2015 10:16:15 GMT -6
Miles will never come to USD. I have no clue why LSU would even consider firing him.
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 24, 2015 10:33:02 GMT -6
Miles will never come to USD. I have no clue why LSU would even consider firing him. Because fans have unrealistic expectations these days. |
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Post by nccyote on Nov 24, 2015 11:01:48 GMT -6
Miles will never come to USD. I have no clue why LSU would even consider firing him. Because fans have unrealistic expectations these days. Don't know that its the fans as much as the AD wanting to get rid of him. The AD is the big reason that the DC Chavis took less money to go to A&M last year. |
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 24, 2015 11:13:28 GMT -6
Because fans have unrealistic expectations these days. Don't know that its the fans as much as the AD wanting to get rid of him. The AD is the big reason that the DC Chavis took less money to go to A&M last year. You might be very well correct. All I saw was last night on ESPN's ticker, that LSU boosters had between $15-20M raised to buy him out. I assume, and I know I shouldn't assume, that the boosters want him gone. Only my opinion. Again I say, unrealistic fan expectations. |
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Post by flagshipU on Nov 24, 2015 11:15:13 GMT -6
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Post by nccyote on Nov 24, 2015 11:19:21 GMT -6
Don't know that its the fans as much as the AD wanting to get rid of him. The AD is the big reason that the DC Chavis took less money to go to A&M last year. You might be very well correct. All I saw was last night on ESPN's ticker, that LSU boosters had between $15-20M raised to buy him out. I assume, and I know I shouldn't assume, that the boosters want him gone. Only my opinion. Again I say, unrealistic fan expectations. Sounds about right then, I guess a NC and multiple SEC titles aren't even good enough for some. Head scratcher nonetheless |
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Post by Yotes on Nov 24, 2015 11:58:47 GMT -6
You might be very well correct. All I saw was last night on ESPN's ticker, that LSU boosters had between $15-20M raised to buy him out. I assume, and I know I shouldn't assume, that the boosters want him gone. Only my opinion. Again I say, unrealistic fan expectations. Sounds about right then, I guess a NC and multiple SEC titles aren't even good enough for some. Head scratcher nonetheless Once the expectation of national championships is set anything less is a colossal failure. Wait until NDSU has a 8-3 or 7-4 season with an early exit in the playoffs, they'll want Kleiman's head on a stake. |
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Nov 24, 2015 12:22:36 GMT -6
The savior of YSU, Pelini, took a team that was routinely a 7+ win team and finished 5-6 this year...
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Post by yotesfan1985 on Nov 24, 2015 12:23:23 GMT -6
Here's something to think about... Earl Bruce took the job at UNI in 1987 right after being fired at Ohio State. It lasted two years and UNI wasn't very good under him despite the fact they were a playoff team under the coaches before and after him
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Post by teamsd on Nov 24, 2015 12:34:24 GMT -6
Seriously? NDSU, SDSU, Illinois St, & UNI all run the ball and have dominant defenses. All of them have balanced running and passing attacks. You have to run the ball in the Valley. All of them have running QBs too minus Lujan. Southern Illinois might have a fun offense, but they suck. (I can't believe I replied back) Mark this day down, I am on the side of an SDSU fan. I'll second that. Lets not try to reinvent the wheel here. Hire a good coach who will embrace Vermillion and the university, all while placing an emphasis on attracting student athletes who are talented and have character. |
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Post by jackjd on Nov 24, 2015 12:48:37 GMT -6
...Look at SDSU right now. Half their posters want Stig gone. That's laughable. The man has won more games probably than any other recent coach and is 8-3 this year.... I have to call you on that one, my friend. You're reading some message board posts from a few Jacks fans who are frustrated in particular with calling one play on offense (the "flash" or "wildcat" when we have no quarterback on the field and the ball is hiked directly to a running back -- you and I with our bad knees may be able to stop that play). Board stats for SDSUFans.com show 2,291 members with 228 deemed "active". Do you know how many alums SDSU has? Hint: the number is significantly greater than USD's alum numbers ... I am only citing that fact for the proposition that there are a lot of SDSU fans who do not appear on the message board. Just like there are tens of thousands of Coyote fans who don't appear on this message board. Captain obvious here: Message board posters don't speak for a fan group. A few message board posters don't speak for an entire message-board's membership. If you polled rank-and-file Jackrabbit fans, even those who are irritated with the play calling, you'll find overwhelming support for Coach Stig. Show me one post on the SDSU message board this season in which a poster has called for the dismissal of Coach Stig. Even if there was one fan who called for Stig's dismissal, you guys know first-hand how incorrect it is to judge a fan base by a few posters on a fan message board (hint: CF). I'm posting my comments because I have to think there are a number of loyal USD fans who read this board but are smarter than you and me, YFE, because they're not wasting their valuable time reading other messages boards --  -- and they shouldn't be left with a false impression based on your post. SDSU fans were not pleased to lose the three games we lost. The last one, at WIU, kept us from getting a high seed and the first round bye in the playoffs.* This is the fourth year in a row we've made the playoffs and the people who post on the message board, naturally so, want to attain more than winning the opening round playoff game. Our coaches and team feel the same. USD's coaches, team and fans will likewise feel the same as you continue to improve. [*It was interesting to see the other ramifications of the WIU win: WIU gets into the playoffs with a six-win season...bouncing out North Dakota with seven wins. That tells us all what the NCAA committee thinks about the toughness of the MVFC.] |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 12:57:07 GMT -6
You're not going to find the athletes in the area to run this offense. It's one of the reasons why NDSU has been so successful. Not taking a shot at SDSU here but if the power run game is the only way to win in the MVFC how is SDSU having the best season in the history of their program this year with a non existent running game?
Obviously they found some athletes (Weineke) that allows them to have a bad run game this year and they are successful without it.
That's a valid point, but no one is saying all they do is run. Teams need balance on offense (obviously). |
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-- and they shouldn't be left with a false impression based on your post. 