YoKid
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Post by YoKid on Sept 20, 2016 17:51:36 GMT -6
The front 7 will face a formidable test against YSU. They appear to have 3 solid backs. Each week they have had a different leading rusher...
Vs Duquesne Rushing 394 Passing 219
Vs West Virginia Rushing 185 Passing 220
Vs Robert Morris Rushing 303 Passing 128
Turnovers: Starting QB 1 INT, RBs 1 Fumble
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Post by goyotes24 on Sept 20, 2016 20:21:46 GMT -6
Watched some of their game this last weekend on the WatchESPN replay. Their RB, Ruiz, is shifty and fast, he seems patient at finding openings and doesn't have a problem getting passed that first level of defenders. I will say, though, Robert Morris is a team that might not even win a game in the lackluster NEC conference, so in a sense the numbers may be a little inflated (barring the WVU game).
YSU's starting QB was injured last week but looks like he will play against us.
I think our offense can definitely score on their defense, and many times. Our defense, however, needs to contain Ruiz. Make them pass the ball and make mistakes, and I think we can pull out a solid road win.
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Post by Yotes on Sept 20, 2016 20:27:56 GMT -6
Ruiz is still around? I feel like he has to be about 30 by now.
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Post by golfingyote on Sept 21, 2016 6:53:13 GMT -6
The Massey ratings predict us to lose 38-27 and give us a 21% chance of winning. We need to play clean games in conference if we want to get W's, especially on the road.
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Post by yoteforever on Sept 21, 2016 7:51:24 GMT -6
Much closer than I thought it might be. I do think YSU is among the conference elite. They are a bigger matchup problem for USD than any other team in the league, other than Illinois State. Should we pull out a win, it would be a HUGE boost of confidence.
You may not like Pelini, but there's a reason he had a Poeer 5 job...he knows how to recruit and coach. The rest of him may be blah to many, but no one can doubt his football ability. Saying all that, I like our entire staff even more. Limit our mistakes, take the game into the 4th quarter and we have a shot. Go Yotes
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Sept 21, 2016 8:21:57 GMT -6
yoteforever, no surprise to you, but I disagree that he knows how to recruit. However, at YSU his top end recruits/transfers have been impressive. Historically, when it has come to recruiting, he is lazy and disorganized. He waits until the season is over to start recruiting hard - he puts in 2 months in what is a 12 month process in today's game. Maybe having Jim Tressel around will help in that regard. Regardless, when he has the talent he needs - which he appears to have - he really knows how to coach up a defense. If there was ever one place where he was susceptible, it is with running/dual-treat QBs. There is no doubt we have one of those. The key to beating a Pelini team - and this has reigned true at YSU as well - is to win the turnover battle. If Streveler (or any other QB, for that matter) makes mistakes throwing the football, we are doomed. YSU's DL and DB are too good for that and will make us pay. I thought yoteforever's statement of "Streveler givith and he taketh away" was was spot on. He can be the great equalizer in a game like this - he can also be the death of us. I love his talent as a runner and overall potential, he just needs to limit the costly turnovers. I don't feel good about this game. I hope my concerns are proven wrong.
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Post by coyote70 on Sept 21, 2016 9:15:37 GMT -6
I suppose Youngstown is expecting a win and the Coyotes are hoping for a win? My hope is that the Coyotes are expecting a win. Time to pay back the Penguins for our poor showing last year; time to get some revenge.
That's the mind-set we need to have to win. I am setting my expectations high for this game and will settle for nothing else. I think the bye week helps us more than them.
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Post by yoteforever on Sept 21, 2016 9:52:33 GMT -6
I suppose Youngstown is expecting a win and the Coyotes are hoping for a win? My hope is that the Coyotes are expecting a win. Time to pay back the Penguins for our poor showing last year; time to get some revenge. That's the mind-set we need to have to win. I am setting my expectations high for this game and will settle for nothing else. I think the bye week helps us more than them. Agreed
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Post by Yote 53 on Sept 21, 2016 10:51:06 GMT -6
OMG, you had to remind me of last year's game. What a debacle that was. The team didn't even bother to show up. I wish I wouldn't have bothered either, could have just stayed out tailgating and enjoyed my day.
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Post by usdtator on Sept 21, 2016 11:19:54 GMT -6
OMG, you had to remind me of last year's game. What a debacle that was. The team didn't even bother to show up. I wish I wouldn't have bothered either, could have just stayed out tailgating and enjoyed my day. Yeah... As I recall, we did really enjoy tailgating before the YSU game last year.
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Post by yoteforever on Sept 21, 2016 21:24:45 GMT -6
yoteforever, no surprise to you, but I disagree that he knows how to recruit. However, at YSU his top end recruits/transfers have been impressive. Historically, when it has come to recruiting, he is lazy and disorganized. He waits until the season is over to start recruiting hard - he puts in 2 months in what is a 12 month process in today's game. Maybe having Jim Tressel around will help in that regard. Regardless, when he has the talent he needs - which he appears to have - he really knows how to coach up a defense. If there was ever one place where he was susceptible, it is with running/dual-treat QBs. There is no doubt we have one of those. The key to beating a Pelini team - and this has reigned true at YSU as well - is to win the turnover battle. If Streveler (or any other QB, for that matter) makes mistakes throwing the football, we are doomed. YSU's DL and DB are too good for that and will make us pay. I thought yoteforever's statement of "Streveler givith and he taketh away" was was spot on. He can be the great equalizer in a game like this - he can also be the death of us. I love his talent as a runner and overall potential, he just needs to limit the costly turnovers. I don't feel good about this game. I hope my concerns are proven wrong. Was recruiting his issue at Nebraska? I assumed he knew what he was doing. Should never assume
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Post by Coyote Fan on Sept 21, 2016 23:18:51 GMT -6
Much closer than I thought it might be. I do think YSU is among the conference elite. They are a bigger matchup problem for USD than any other team in the league, other than Illinois State. Should we pull out a win, it would be a HUGE boost of confidence. You may not like Pelini, but there's a reason he had a Poeer 5 job...he knows how to recruit and coach. The rest of him may be blah to many, but no one can doubt his football ability. Saying all that, I like our entire staff even more. Limit our mistakes, take the game into the 4th quarter and we have a shot. Go Yotes Youngstown is a perfect example of the depth of good teams in the MVFC. I wouldn't put them in the conference elite category. At minimum NDSU and UNI are ahead of them and probably SDSU and Illinois State as well. That makes Youngstown at best a mid level conference team.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Sept 21, 2016 23:26:19 GMT -6
I suppose Youngstown is expecting a win and the Coyotes are hoping for a win? My hope is that the Coyotes are expecting a win. Time to pay back the Penguins for our poor showing last year; time to get some revenge. That's the mind-set we need to have to win. I am setting my expectations high for this game and will settle for nothing else. I think the bye week helps us more than them. I really like that attitude and all Coyote Fans should think the exact same thing every week. If the Coyotes don't come out with a chip on their shoulder to try to make up for what happened last week than I will be concerned. Every player should have steam rising from the tops of their helmets all week and should be just knocking on the stadium doors next saturday ready to get in and prove a point. Youngstown is a good football team but this is the type of game that the Coyotes should be winning at least half the time for them to be in the conversation to eventually be a top 4 Valley team which is what it will take to make the playoffs.
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Sept 22, 2016 8:14:12 GMT -6
yoteforever, no surprise to you, but I disagree that he knows how to recruit. However, at YSU his top end recruits/transfers have been impressive. Historically, when it has come to recruiting, he is lazy and disorganized. He waits until the season is over to start recruiting hard - he puts in 2 months in what is a 12 month process in today's game. Maybe having Jim Tressel around will help in that regard. Regardless, when he has the talent he needs - which he appears to have - he really knows how to coach up a defense. If there was ever one place where he was susceptible, it is with running/dual-treat QBs. There is no doubt we have one of those. The key to beating a Pelini team - and this has reigned true at YSU as well - is to win the turnover battle. If Streveler (or any other QB, for that matter) makes mistakes throwing the football, we are doomed. YSU's DL and DB are too good for that and will make us pay. I thought yoteforever's statement of "Streveler givith and he taketh away" was was spot on. He can be the great equalizer in a game like this - he can also be the death of us. I love his talent as a runner and overall potential, he just needs to limit the costly turnovers. I don't feel good about this game. I hope my concerns are proven wrong. Was recruiting his issue at Nebraska? I assumed he knew what he was doing. Should never assume Outside of being a generally foul person, yes, recruiting was far and away his issue. I think his 16/17 class at YSU is only 12 guys. That may simply be a product of scholarship availability, but look what our guys have brought in! Our guys are working the system to maximize the number of dudes we can bring in. Further, we have at least 12 guys already committed for 2017 and have visitors coming in for 2018. Bo would NEVER put in that much effort. To his credit, my understanding is that in-season Bo hunkers down and goes to the mattresses for game prep, but that leaves 4 months of nominal contact with recruits or scouting. You can't survive in D1 football with that mentality. Come December, it is then a mad rush to keep up. In that time he usually lands a couple studs, but the balance of his recruiting classes always leave a lot to be desired.
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Post by yoteforever on Sept 22, 2016 10:04:57 GMT -6
Much closer than I thought it might be. I do think YSU is among the conference elite. They are a bigger matchup problem for USD than any other team in the league, other than Illinois State. Should we pull out a win, it would be a HUGE boost of confidence. You may not like Pelini, but there's a reason he had a Poeer 5 job...he knows how to recruit and coach. The rest of him may be blah to many, but no one can doubt his football ability. Saying all that, I like our entire staff even more. Limit our mistakes, take the game into the 4th quarter and we have a shot. Go Yotes Youngstown is a perfect example of the depth of good teams in the MVFC. I wouldn't put them in the conference elite category. At minimum NDSU and UNI are ahead of them and probably SDSU and Illinois State as well. That makes Youngstown at best a mid level conference team. Elite might be the wrong word, but I feel they are as capable of winning the MVFC as anyone based on this years performance the first 3 weeks. NDSU is NDSU, then Illinois State, SDSU, WIU, UNI, and YSU. Anyone can beat anyone. I think USD can win every game on their schedule, but not likely they will. This conference is so balanced, it's almost unbelievable. Normally leagues have teams that are bottom feeders, but not this league. The so called bottom feeders have gotten better, and the top maybe can't say that. Going to be one hell of an interesting season.
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