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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 21, 2017 10:27:28 GMT -6
If there is another QB on the roster capable of beating out Simmons then I am very impressed with what we have recruited at that position. I think Simmons is pretty dang good. The kid only came off the bench after Strev was injured the first series of the SIU game and won. Keep in mind he was probably getting majority second string reps throughout the week and still led the team to a 49-0 victory, this coming off a road loss to ISUr and the distractions of the player suspensions. I would say he is a pretty capable QB.. Yote53 - from your comments throughout the season it's clear you are big Simmons fan and there is no reason to not be a Simmons fan. He has a cannon of an arm and a ton of talent and should probably break some of the records Strev set this year. However your comments about him only getting second string reps are not true. I know for a fact that Simmons get about as many first string reps as Streveler does. This coaching staff is not stupid. They know that with the way Strev plays he is going to need a breather, thus Simmons get a lot of first string reps. Simmons' challenge is going to be the mental aspect of the game. He is going to have to work hard at getting himself up to speed. His cannon arm will cover a lot of sins but wont cure everything. The other QB's on the roster are going to have to rally impress this staff if they hope to unseat Austin as the starter next year.
Reread my statement. I didn't say he was only getting second string reps. I said he was probably getting a majority of his reps with the second string. I'm sure he did get some first string reps in practice but I think your crazy if you think that exceeded 50%. |
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 21, 2017 10:31:28 GMT -6
If there is another QB on the roster capable of beating out Simmons then I am very impressed with what we have recruited at that position. I think Simmons is pretty dang good. The kid only came off the bench after Strev was injured the first series of the SIU game and won. Keep in mind he was probably getting majority second string reps throughout the week and still led the team to a 49-0 victory, this coming off a road loss to ISUr and the distractions of the player suspensions. I would say he is a pretty capable QB.. I had the chance to spend about an hour with a player one year removed from the team while on a road trip this year for the Yotes. He told me that he and every player he has stayed in touch with believe and often comment how good Simmons is, and are of the opinion that as good as Streveler is (tremendous leader, elite speed, elite toughness) - Simmons is enough of a better thrower than Streveler that he is just as hard for a defense to defend. He also commented that defenses will play Simmons differently than Streveler and that because of that Simmons may actually be as effective running. He put in in perspective saying that in his opinion Streveler is the best running QB in the MVFC. He said it may be close for a number two between several others. His belief was that Simmons has more of a smooth running style like TC and we could expect Simmons to run like him. He went on to tell me that just like defenses now are paranoid that Streveler will rip off a 75 yard TD run on virtually any down and distance - after some time of scouting Simmons they will realize he has a cannon and accuracy at an elite level and will have to cover the entire field. By being forced to do that, the receivers will have some match-up advantages. His prediction for what it was worth was that the MVFC and fans at large will be surprised when they expect a huge drop-off because a player of Streveler's caliber graduates, and the offense is just as effective in 2018 as this year. He did mention that he would rather try and tackle Simmons than Streveler. (I would have guessed that) Was interesting to hear his perspectives. What I have been saying all along. They are different players, but both are effective. With Strev you have to protect against that scramble and his elite athleticism. With Simmons you have to defend the entire field, which will leave some big holes and mismatches. I would not like to tackle Strev either. Not a good look when a defensive player gets trucked by the QB! |
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Post by bt71 on Nov 21, 2017 11:06:48 GMT -6
Yote53 - from your comments throughout the season it's clear you are big Simmons fan and there is no reason to not be a Simmons fan. He has a cannon of an arm and a ton of talent and should probably break some of the records Strev set this year. However your comments about him only getting second string reps are not true. I know for a fact that Simmons get about as many first string reps as Streveler does. This coaching staff is not stupid. They know that with the way Strev plays he is going to need a breather, thus Simmons get a lot of first string reps. Simmons' challenge is going to be the mental aspect of the game. He is going to have to work hard at getting himself up to speed. His cannon arm will cover a lot of sins but wont cure everything. The other QB's on the roster are going to have to rally impress this staff if they hope to unseat Austin as the starter next year.
Reread my statement. I didn't say he was only getting second string reps. I said he was probably getting a majority of his reps with the second string. I'm sure he did get some first string reps in practice but I think your crazy if you think that exceeded 50%. Not trying to argue with you but Yote 53 said on the AGS site... "Our backup QB played one game this year. Came in emergency duty during the first series against Southern Illinois. Without taking #1 reps all week and having to play in a game he did not expect to play in he only led the team to a 49-0 win." Unless there is another Yote 53 out there, I'm pretty sure that was you. Look, I've been around the team enough to know that they have confidence in Simmons and if he doesn't break some of Strev's records I'll be surprised. His arm talent has been compared to some of the top guys in the NFL. He's elite for sure. Having a backup as talented as Austin is a great problem to have.
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 21, 2017 11:36:21 GMT -6
I said that on another site. Ehh, I embellished it a bit. That's just...gamesmanship. Right?
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Post by bt71 on Nov 21, 2017 11:43:13 GMT -6
I said that on another site. Ehh, I embellished it a bit. That's just...gamesmanship. Right? I gotcha! No harm no foul.  We are all in this together. I think we all agree we are sitting pretty nicely at the QB spot. Go Yotes!
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Post by usdyotes on Nov 21, 2017 11:48:05 GMT -6
I will go out on a limb and say he wont be the starter next year. 49-0 win that he guided the team to victory? Really? I would say it was defense not the offense. He has a cannon? Again how many offensive plays require a pass 60 yards down the field the answer 1 if the hail Mary is that long. You have not seen the other QB's so you dont know. NFL arm come on. He has proven nothing but everyone thinks hes the next Brady. Give me a break. Yes i am aggravated because of the comparison to Streveler. Strev is a proven winner Simmons is not. Look at the Drake game he threw a TD on a slant great for him. But no one saw the other plays that he was qlueless and was yelled at on the sideline. If you think hes close to Streveler or better your insane. He might be the 3rd best QB on the team after Streveler leaves.
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 21, 2017 11:56:53 GMT -6
In 2016 as a redshirt freshman Simmons beat Illinois State 27-24. Threw for 205 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT. In the two games he's played he's 2-0, and he's only a sophomore this year. If he's the 4th best QB on the roster (3rd best after Streveler leaves) then we are loaded at the QB position and the rest of the MVFC should be very worried.
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Post by The Jungle on Nov 21, 2017 12:05:45 GMT -6
Good quality stuff. We need more FCS articles. Thanks for that.
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Post by sdyotefan on Nov 21, 2017 12:12:01 GMT -6
Just to set the record straight--the score against Southern Ill was 42-0 (I was there and had a great time). Strev is great and it is great to have Simmons as his backup! I'm sure our other QBs are very good too but young and obviously no Valley wins or much playing time. Simmons did very well in the So Ill game given the circumstances--unexpected early injury to Strev, managing the game which was mainly all that was needed given how the D was playing, etc. Perfect no but fine. It's great to have team depth and competition at every position and certainly true at QB too!!
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Post by Yotes on Nov 21, 2017 12:25:10 GMT -6
In 2016 as a redshirt freshman Simmons beat Illinois State 27-24. Threw for 205 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT. In the two games he's played he's 2-0, and he's only a sophomore this year. If he's the 4th best QB on the roster (3rd best after Streveler leaves) then we are loaded at the QB position and the rest of the MVFC should be very worried. Its worth mentioning that Simmons went like 11/30 in that game. |
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Post by Yotes on Nov 21, 2017 12:52:58 GMT -6
In 2016 as a redshirt freshman Simmons beat Illinois State 27-24. Threw for 205 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT. In the two games he's played he's 2-0, and he's only a sophomore this year. If he's the 4th best QB on the roster (3rd best after Streveler leaves) then we are loaded at the QB position and the rest of the MVFC should be very worried. Its worth mentioning that Simmons went like 11/30 in that game. Looked it up, 13/30 was the mark. 43% is not a good percentage. Simmons has an absolute cannon and is quick on his feet. I have faith that he will be a great leader on this team next year. |
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 21, 2017 13:07:24 GMT -6
Potato....potatto. Not worth arguing about. I remember the Weber State game where Simmons came in and lit them up. No question he has the arm, the question that will need to be answered is if he can read coverages. That's something he'll have to grow in to. Nothing like experience to grow as a player. If Simmons isn't the quarterback and he's not injured, then we are in awfully good shape into the foreseeable future.
What an opportunity we have before us right now. Actually a Simmons led win in Louisiana would boost everyone's confidence. Just in case Chris can't go. What a blessing it's been to have that fine young man the past two years. The future is very bright indeed.
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 21, 2017 13:31:26 GMT -6
It was 42 not 49? Well, it's easy to lose track when your scoring that much.
Yoteforever seems to get my point. I think Simmons is good, if we got more of him or better on the roster than we are stacked and have nothing to worry about, next game or next year.
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Post by usdyotes on Nov 21, 2017 13:36:19 GMT -6
Just to set the record straight--the score against Southern Ill was 42-0 (I was there and had a great time). Strev is great and it is great to have Simmons as his backup! I'm sure our other QBs are very good too but young and obviously no Valley wins or much playing time. Simmons did very well in the So Ill game given the circumstances--unexpected early injury to Strev, managing the game which was mainly all that was needed given how the D was playing, etc. Perfect no but fine. It's great to have team depth and competition at every position and certainly true at QB too!! [br |
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Post by usdyotes on Nov 21, 2017 13:38:22 GMT -6
In 2016 as a redshirt freshman Simmons beat Illinois State 27-24. Threw for 205 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT. In the two games he's played he's 2-0, and he's only a sophomore this year. If he's the 4th best QB on the roster (3rd best after Streveler leaves) then we are loaded at the QB position and the rest of the MVFC should be very worried. You forgot to mention the 11/30 |
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We are all in this together. I think we all agree we are sitting pretty nicely at the QB spot. Go Yotes!
