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Post by ontheyote on Dec 4, 2017 21:47:12 GMT -6
My feeling is that if Nielson does leave it will either be Schlafke or a brand new coaching staff. I don't really want to go back to boring run first football because I think a run first team will never get past NDSU because if you can't beat them at their game you have to try something else which is the Bob Nielson angle. Not a chance Ted gets the job. My hope is coach Moose, Yelk, or Oboyle. |
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Post by easmus on Dec 4, 2017 22:02:32 GMT -6
Any of those guys that came from Western: Schlafke, Yelk, Bradley, etc. all will stay with him. That is their key to success is their team.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Dec 4, 2017 22:04:27 GMT -6
I don't want a line specialist or a defensive coach for this team. The team didn't play much defense so why would we want one of the defensive coaches. To me it's Schlafke or no one. Schlafke probably has some risk but of all the coaches I think his upside is the greatest. I will swing for the upside before taking a line coach where we would never know if they would be a good head coach.
It is probably safest to go with the most qualified candidate. The best sure way to get the most qualified candidate is to have an open and honest national search with no preconceived person already chosen before the process even really starts. I really don't know all the past credentials of the coaches on staff without doing research but I would favor the coach to be under 50. The last two coaches have been old and older. Maybe the Coyotes could convince coach Glenn to come out of retirement one more time. He did a good job last time so why not give it another shot.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Dec 4, 2017 22:05:40 GMT -6
Any of those guys that came from Western: Schlafke, Yelk, Bradley, etc. all will stay with him. That is their key to success is their team. Do you really think if USD offered one of those coaches about 300K to be the new head coach at USD, that they wouldn't take it? |
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Post by easmus on Dec 4, 2017 22:08:07 GMT -6
O’Boyle had a lot of success at Chadron State as HC. Wasn’t with him at Western.
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Post by easmus on Dec 4, 2017 22:09:02 GMT -6
Any of those guys that came from Western: Schlafke, Yelk, Bradley, etc. all will stay with him. That is their key to success is their team. Do you really think if USD offered one of those coaches about 300K to be the new head coach at USD, that they wouldn't take it? They might. But I’m not sure they would offer that much either. |
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Post by ontheyote on Dec 4, 2017 22:14:53 GMT -6
I don't want a line specialist or a defensive coach for this team. The team didn't play much defense so why would we want one of the defensive coaches. To me it's Schlafke or no one. Schlafke probably has some risk but of all the coaches I think his upside is the greatest. I will swing for the upside before taking a line coach where we would never know if they would be a good head coach. It is probably safest to go with the most qualified candidate. The best sure way to get the most qualified candidate is to have an open and honest national search with no preconceived person already chosen before the process even really starts. I really don't know all the past credentials of the coaches on staff without doing research but I would favor the coach to be under 50. The last two coaches have been old and older. Maybe the Coyotes could convince coach Glenn to come out of retirement one more time. He did a good job last time so why not give it another shot. I believe Oboyle has head coaching experience at chadron st. He also was the OC at SIU, from what I've heard inside the program he brought the high tempo style to USD. Moose is the associate head coach and has a tough mentality. Im always up for a head coach that brings a sense of toughness to the team. The only reason I mention yelk is because he wanted the WIU job a few years back. Schlafke seems okay with staying out of the media and just calling plays to put up gaudy numbers. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Dec 4, 2017 22:26:24 GMT -6
If you take an objective look at Bob's body of work in the FCS it is so far just kind of average but far from spectacular. His overall record as a FCS coach is 31-41 with a 18-30 conference record. He has 2 playoff appearances and had a 2-2 record with wins against two rather weak playoff entrants and losses against both good teams that were played.
People can say he had to rebuild at Western and that is fine but even after his first two years there he still only went 8-8 in the Valley which is far from poor but also far from great. At USD he went 7-9 in conference and 12-12 overall. If people think Glenn did a good job rebuilding the program than 12-12 is very average. I think from a talent perspective that Glenn did not leave Nielson in a good spot so I am going to credit Bob because he had to up the roster with more skill and athleticism.
I think it would be quite the coo on his behalf to get a MAC job without having ever made it to the quarterfinals in the FCS playoffs. People make him out to be the second coming and he is a good coach but considering the pedestal people put him on he is actually kind of over rated. With Steveler gone we may never know if this season was as good as it would have even gotten at USD for him. Next year my initial prediction was going to be about 6-5 but obviously any kind of forward vision is being put on hold for at least a little while.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Dec 4, 2017 22:32:18 GMT -6
I don't want a line specialist or a defensive coach for this team. The team didn't play much defense so why would we want one of the defensive coaches. To me it's Schlafke or no one. Schlafke probably has some risk but of all the coaches I think his upside is the greatest. I will swing for the upside before taking a line coach where we would never know if they would be a good head coach. It is probably safest to go with the most qualified candidate. The best sure way to get the most qualified candidate is to have an open and honest national search with no preconceived person already chosen before the process even really starts. I really don't know all the past credentials of the coaches on staff without doing research but I would favor the coach to be under 50. The last two coaches have been old and older. Maybe the Coyotes could convince coach Glenn to come out of retirement one more time. He did a good job last time so why not give it another shot. I believe Oboyle has head coaching experience at chadron st. He also was the OC at SIU, from what I've heard inside the program he brought the high tempo style to USD. Moose is the associate head coach and has a tough mentality. Im always up for a head coach that brings a sense of toughness to the team. The only reason I mention yelk is because he wanted the WIU job a few years back. Schlafke seems okay with staying out of the media and just calling plays to put up gaudy numbers. Yeah those gaudy numbers alright. Who would want that. The Coyotes only had the second best offense in the nation playing in a much better defensive conference than the team that was #1. If the Coyotes make their hire from one of the defensive coaches than we can say "welcome back to irrelevance" for the next decade. Most neutral observers are saying that just simply because the Coyotes are losing Streveler. They may be right or may be wrong but they at least have somewhat of a point. |
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Post by kiyoat on Dec 5, 2017 8:41:29 GMT -6
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Post by Yote 53 on Dec 5, 2017 8:48:53 GMT -6
I think we need to pump the brakes here a bit until we see what happens. Although, I get it, as a USD football fan you come to expect the absolute worst break for the program. We can never get over the hump, always something that sets us back. So I'm not surprised that many of you are just assuming that Bob leaving is a foregone conclusion and are mentally on to the next phase.
ETA: Rumor is Bob is on campus at KSU today. Probably interviewing as a finalist for the position.
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Post by yotesfan1985 on Dec 5, 2017 8:56:20 GMT -6
. +1 On this comment. Jim would be a perfect fit |
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Post by howlingyote on Dec 5, 2017 8:58:33 GMT -6
I think we need to pump the brakes here a bit until we see what happens. Although, I get it, as a USD football fan you come to expect the absolute worst break for the program. We can never get over the hump, always something that sets us back. So I'm not surprised that many of you are just assuming that Bob leaving is a foregone conclusion and are mentally on to the next phase. ETA: Rumor is Bob is on campus at KSU today. Probably interviewing as a finalist for the position. Good point, but this rumor could be put to be immediately if Bob came out and denied that he was going anywhere. Either way we need a quick decision so our recruiting doesn't get impacted. |
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Post by howlingyote on Dec 5, 2017 9:01:59 GMT -6
Kent State board reporting that Neilson is on campus today.
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Post by coyote70 on Dec 5, 2017 9:02:29 GMT -6
What I like about our current coaching staff is that they appear to function as an effective team, especially in the areas of recruiting and player development. What I also like is the "system" or style of play they bring to the game, like the hurry-up offense and focus on speed.
As we know, head coaches often get more than their share of blame when expectations are not met and probably get more than their share of accolades when things go right.
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