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Post by yotefan on Mar 15, 2018 18:25:01 GMT -6
Congrats to State fans on a great season. They looked very good in their game against the Buckeyes today and represented the Summit well.
Did anyone else hear Chris Weber's broadcast partner say State last played Ohio State in the 2013 or 2014 NCAA Tournament Sweet 16 and lost on a last second buzzer beater? I was under the impression this would have been State's first tourney win.
Also, if State had won today does anyone know what kind of money the Summit would have earned and how that would have been distributed to member schools?
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Post by Yotes on Mar 15, 2018 18:37:11 GMT -6
Congrats to State fans on a great season. They looked very good in their game against the Buckeyes today and represented the Summit well. Did anyone else hear Chris Weber's broadcast partner say State last played Ohio State in the 2013 or 2014 NCAA Tournament Sweet 16 and lost on a last second buzzer beater? I was under the impression this would have been State's first tourney win. Also, if State had won today does anyone know what kind of money the Summit would have earned and how that would have been distributed to member schools?I did hear that, and he kind of trailed off afterwards because he realized that couldn't be right. Ohio State has two OT games in the tourney in the past ten years - a win against VCU in 2015 and loss to Siena in 2009. I have no idea what they were trying to refer to there. Each game is worth about $1.7 million for the conference, regardless of the round (First Four and Final Four carry the same payout). Another game would have meant an additional $1.7 million.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 15, 2018 18:55:39 GMT -6
It was impressive to see the Jacks hang in there with the Buckeyes. I don't really consider OSU a very good 5 seed. The three pointer and 1 really turned the game around after the Jacks went on a 10-0 run to tie it up. Than the Jacks fouled on a three pointer again and all 3 charity tosses were good and next ya know it is a 7 point game and that was that. My hope was that Daum in a losing effort would score 60, get 30 rebounds, 15 assists, 12 blocks and 10 steals to get the first quintouple double in tourney history (I would presume). I got one right but the monster game did not happen opening his door for the NBA next year. I guess we will have to deal with him one more year.
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Mar 15, 2018 18:55:53 GMT -6
I saw most of the game but missed a decent amount. State started out playing very well in the 1st half with Key hitting so many shots. Daum is Daum, he is above anyone in the conference. If he is serious about his NBA career I don't see how his stock can't get any higher. Key and Jenkins are wildcards because they can either light it up or look terrible. They both did a little of each. In the second half they played below their potential. Overall they lost by 8 which was the vegas line. They repped the Summit sufficiently.
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Post by yotefan on Mar 15, 2018 19:38:40 GMT -6
Congrats to State fans on a great season. They looked very good in their game against the Buckeyes today and represented the Summit well. Did anyone else hear Chris Weber's broadcast partner say State last played Ohio State in the 2013 or 2014 NCAA Tournament Sweet 16 and lost on a last second buzzer beater? I was under the impression this would have been State's first tourney win. Also, if State had won today does anyone know what kind of money the Summit would have earned and how that would have been distributed to member schools?I did hear that, and he kind of trailed off afterwards because he realized that couldn't be right. Ohio State has two OT games in the tourney in the past ten years - a win against VCU in 2015 and loss to Siena in 2009. I have no idea what they were trying to refer to there. Each game is worth about $1.7 million for the conference, regardless of the round (First Four and Final Four carry the same payout). Another game would have meant an additional $1.7 million. Thanks Yotes!
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Post by Yotes on Mar 15, 2018 19:47:48 GMT -6
State did play well, but they were lucky to draw another team who missed about a thousand open threes. 12/40 for Ohio State. They kept shooting them because they got so many great looks. Same as Gonzaga last year.
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Post by elcoyote on Mar 15, 2018 21:05:19 GMT -6
So what do I know? Yote women host Colorado State on Sunday.
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Post by Yotes on Mar 15, 2018 22:21:42 GMT -6
I'm shocked to learn this. I'm glad these two programs could finally get together, and in Vermillion no less. Lotta Yotes on their staff.
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Post by kiyoat on Mar 16, 2018 5:41:02 GMT -6
So what do I know? Yote women host Colorado State on Sunday. I bet Herbster played hardball with those goons in Ft Collins. Like a Ram's head in a bed, godfather-style.
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Post by kiyoat on Mar 16, 2018 8:57:50 GMT -6
what kind of money the Summit would have earned and how that would have been distributed to member schools? Each game is worth about $1.7 million for the conference, regardless of the round (First Four and Final Four carry the same payout). Another game would have meant an additional $1.7 million. I just wanted to expand on that explanation on the disbursement aspect: The conference doesn't get that money all at once, it is disbursed in "units" of 1/6 of the total over six years. Since the Summit League has an auto-bid, we are guaranteed at least one payout each year. These disbursements essentially get "stacked" so that even if we never win a tournament game, the Summit League still gets (about) 1.7 mil each year to distribute to teams how they see fit. Getting two teams in the tournament, or one team winning a single game, gets a conference an additional 1.7 mil (disbursed over 6 years). So when NDSU beat Oklahoma in 2014, that added to the Summit's take for six years. The payout at that time was 1.6 million, so the per year would be about $267,000. In other words, the Summit has been getting around 1.967 mil/year, and will continue to until 2020. After that it will drop back to 1.7 mil, unless we get another tourney win before then. So about $2 million per year is now distributed by the Summit as they see fit. Is it split evenly each year? Are new members grandfathered in? That's completely up to the Summit league. This year we only have 8 members, so if it is even, USD would have gotten $250,000. Adding UND and one more team, and dropping to $1.7 mil after 2020 gives us a smaller share. Like $170,000 each year. So getting more teams in, and actually winning games makes a HUGE difference. The Summit/Midcontinent has had multiple bids and wins in the tournament in the past:1986 Cleveland State: 2 wins (3x disbursment) 1987 Missouri State: 1 win 1990 Missouri State: 1 win and Northern Iowa 1991 Green Bay and Northern Illinois 1994 Green Bay: 1 win 1998 Valpo: 2 wins 2005 Oakland: 1 win 2014 NDSU: 1 win And for Jacks fans: no, Women's NCAA appearances and wins don't pay a dime. Their tournament doesn't generate enough money to do that. there are costs to run the tournament, too.
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Post by yotefan on Mar 16, 2018 9:09:00 GMT -6
Good info. Thanks kiyoat.
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Post by Yotes on Mar 16, 2018 10:47:20 GMT -6
I am curious about the distribution of that revenue. Is it typically equal across long-standing members? Does the representing team get a greater share? It probably isn't public info.
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Post by gopheryote on Mar 16, 2018 20:42:11 GMT -6
What's the deal with all the Daum/Creighton chatter on Twitter? That would seem like an odd place to go, although McDermott did develop is son pretty well.
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Post by gopheryote on Mar 17, 2018 6:11:20 GMT -6
Pretty lousy year for SL teams in the postseason. 1 team with a win.
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Post by Yote 53 on Mar 17, 2018 10:52:24 GMT -6
What's the deal with all the Daum/Creighton chatter on Twitter? That would seem like an odd place to go, although McDermott did develop is son pretty well. That's been the word out of Omaha for a while. I heard Daum was going to Creighton next year from people I know in Omaha almost a month ago.
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