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Post by ontheyote on Oct 23, 2018 16:47:42 GMT -6
This game is going to tell us a lot about our staff. Its obvious we have talent on the field. Some of the single game performances from guys like the gray brothers, greeny, and cochran. On offense simmons, allen, ducker, and henry have all had really good individual performances. I dont know why we dont see more consistant success with some of our guys. I believe its on the coaching staff to get them to play consistent football.
What concerns me is NDSU will strangle us out of this game. Just control the clock, not allow any big plays and let us turn the ball over a few times. If we start slow and get down a couple scores i dont like our chances. The only way we win this game is by taking the lead first.
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Post by coyote70 on Oct 23, 2018 17:12:47 GMT -6
NDSU has pretty much played the same way every year for decades: Play field position; good defense; wait for the other team to make mistakes and capitalize on them; etc. They could do that because their lines usually dominated.
I'd say to simply punch them in the nose but we can't do that anymore. Football just isn't what it used to be.
No point in this....just reflecting on the few times the Coyotes took on the city slickers from mighty Fargo and beat them (or, maybe beat them up?). Go Yotes!! Fire up dam mit!!
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Post by yoteforever on Oct 23, 2018 19:51:49 GMT -6
You can over analyze this game to death but the truth of the matter is this game is must win. Not close....must win. To get to the next level you have to earn respect. Respect is not something you purchase, you earn it.
Anything less than a win won’t fly. We have to beat this team, and we have to beat the Jacks. Do we have the talent to do so? Yes. Do we have the mental toughness to do so? We’ll see. From what I’ve witnessed thus far, the answer is no. But I believe 100% in Bob Nielson. He didn’t forget how to coach. Part of coaching is getting your players to believe. My hope is they take zero shit from the Bison. Zero. If they come out and punch us, we damned well better have the mindset to punch back. The last 4 games are nothing more than fist fights with a ball thrown in. If these guys have one ounce of self respect I expect them to fight...and believe they will win.
No more playing tentative. Be physical. Have tenacity. Have mental toughness. What’s crazy is if we win Saturday we can run the table. I’m telling you, we can run the table. But if they don’t believe, the table will be turned. The ball is in the players court. They have to want it more than we do. I’ve gone from being nervous about this game to rather anxious to see if the Coyotes have any fight in them.
This is the one game where our opponent probably has more talent, but I’m telling you talent doesn’t always win. They don’t respect us, and I don’t blame them. Earn that respect. One play at a time.
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NDSU week.
Oct 23, 2018 20:46:04 GMT -6
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Post by lakesbison on Oct 23, 2018 20:46:04 GMT -6
On paper, this should not be a game. Fortunately, games are played on the field. Being back in Vermillion should light a fire under the butts of some players that need that right now. The O-line needs to get their crap figured out. The mix of poor assignment and poor technique has given me a queasy stomach for much of the season. We have so missed O'Boyle! Henry ran hard for the first time all year during the 2nd half last week (finally). Need to see that on a consistent basis as he can be a real difference maker. Nielson will have the team ready to go this week. Conversely, this will be a tough game for NDSU to get up for following what I assume was a physical match-up with ISUr. It is just natural for kids that are 18-23 years old to pull their foot off the gas a bit mid season when they are feeling really good about themselves, especially when they watch what USD did last week in Youngstown. I'm certainly not predicting an upset, but I would not be surprised to see a close game. A lot depends on the start for USD and the ability to gain confidence as the game progresses. this is the correct take and as a bison fan what worries me the most. the last 4 games for ndsu this year all are 98-99% win percentages based on sagarin. NDSU program doesnt belong ln the fcs, but after 104-8 & 6 titles mountain west, mac sure the hell arent gonna invite ndsu and the bigger conferences wont take a small college. S I G H . |
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Post by Yote 53 on Oct 23, 2018 20:57:32 GMT -6
We're not going to be able to go toe to toe. We have to play to our strengths and that is an opportunistic defense that can bend but not break, make big plays as needed, and get turnovers.
On offense, use our strength, the receivers. I expect to see us throw the ball about 60 times with a lot of "running game" type throws that are designed to just get the ball out in space and get a couple if yards combined with screens to keep the pass rush at Bay. We aren't lining up double tights and asking for a fight. We'll spread them and dink and dunk them and try to keep their defense off balance.
I hated playing teams that played basketball on turf but that's what we'll need to do if we want to win.
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NDSU week.
Oct 24, 2018 18:40:18 GMT -6
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Post by lakesbison on Oct 24, 2018 18:40:18 GMT -6
NDSU’s Offense has entered the red zone 30 times. Resulting in 24 touchdowns, 3 field goals, 2 kneel downs in the 4th quarter and 1 failed attempt (a fumble in a blowout win)
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Post by gopheryote on Oct 24, 2018 18:50:36 GMT -6
I'm just going to put this here, NDSU week and all...  |
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Post by yoteforever on Oct 24, 2018 19:01:29 GMT -6
Lakes, I know you don’t have one ounce of respect for usd from your posts on other websites..you’re the typical puffy chested fan from Fargo, but you can do so because until someone knocks you off your perch you can blow all you want. But the day is coming where your fantasy football world will come falling down so enjoy the ride.
I thought this was the year we stepped up and challenged, but that doesn’t look likely. I’m not giving up, in fact I never give up, but unless something dramatic has come about this week in Vermillion it looks like a long day ahead on Saturday. I will give you heed, we have the talent to beat you. And unlike some posters on this board, I feel we can do it by simply lining up and beating your ass. There’s nothing out there to indicate we are going to do that, but we’re capable...and that’s what makes us dangerous. Your players are just like you...overconfident. They better not overlook the Coyotes, it could bring them down.
I’ll say it for the umpteenth time, anything less than a win is unacceptable. When I played a million years ago I never feared you. And I still don’t. As Coach Glenn once said...”we’re gonna touch gloves with you” and see what happens. You’re welcome to our tailgate if you come. The championship team from 78 will be tailgating together and I will remind our fans that it was the NDSU game that turned our season around.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 24, 2018 19:07:49 GMT -6
I'm just going to put this here, NDSU week and all... I think that's the only game I've missed in its entirety since Northern Arizona in 2013. The energy around the program was so low heading into that game. Crushed by WIU the week before, doubts that Sam Mclaren would even walk again really bringing spirits down, this following a 31-3 loss to YSU on D-Days the week prior. Heading into the game at NDSU this program was about as low as possible. I went to a wedding and didn't even bother checking the score on my phone. I think I forgot there even was a game going on until I was at the reception and someone started exclaiming that Bergner was going for the win. Anyways, weddings in the fall should be illegal. |
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Post by jackjd on Oct 24, 2018 20:40:30 GMT -6
I'm just going to put this here, NDSU week and all... That is an outstanding picture. The composition, stop-action, the Bison hands at peak extension...and Bergner's 33 yd field goal as time ran off the clock. USD 24, NDSU 21. One could not have staged that picture. NDSU's outstanding 26-game Valley home-win streak ended. Proof of the cliche "that's why they play the game" and the universal warning: 'on any given Saturday....' I remember reading about that finish not long after they turned out the lights in the FargoDome that day. I got one of those "well I'll be damned" grins on my face. Yoteforever: I have one minor disagreement with your outstanding post politely telling the human virus lakes where to get off. I'm convinced the Bison team and coaches, while supremely confident for every game, somehow avoid going over the line into being overconfident. You can bet the above picture or at least a reference to the 2015 game, will be talked about this week in the FargoDome lockerroom. It's certainly possible USD could shock the Bison in Fargo again. The Bison players and coaches know that. Lakes? Well, he's lakes -- sucks to be him. |
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Post by yoteforever on Oct 25, 2018 3:00:52 GMT -6
Jackjd,
I wasn’t referring to the coaching staff but rather to that of the perceived mindset of the players. As a former player I can tell you it’s impossible to be “up” for all 11 or 12 games. I have to believe their guard is somewhat down. While that picture of Bergners kick would be great chalk board material for the locker room, the truth of the matter is very few players were even there. The Coyotes are coming off two straight losses and they are coming off a big game against Illinois State.
Last year we went to Fargo as a much improved team led by a POTY candidate in Streveler. This year is another story. I would argue last year they played their best game against us. I don’t look for that Saturday. Now if they simply are that much better and we lay down like we have the past 2 weeks, then it’s game over. However I just don’t have that feeling. I think we play them hard.
Like I’ve said before, I either see them beating us by 28 or we win by 6. We will see if we have what it takes to win in this league or not.
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Post by gopheryote on Oct 25, 2018 6:16:24 GMT -6
I'm just going to put this here, NDSU week and all... That is an outstanding picture. The composition, stop-action, the Bison hands at peak extension...and Bergner's 33 yd field goal as time ran off the clock. USD 24, NDSU 21. One could not have staged that picture. Picture was taken by David Samson from The Forum (though I found it on the Mitchell Daily Republic site). I completely agree - it is one of those rare sports photos you can stare at and see mini-battles, fan reaction/anticipation/etc. Pretty amazing photo. |
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Post by easmus on Oct 25, 2018 8:52:51 GMT -6
Last year there was no way we were going into the Fargodome on senior day and after they just lost the Marker game and winning. The score reflected that.
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NDSU week.
Oct 25, 2018 11:36:34 GMT -6
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Post by Yotes on Oct 25, 2018 11:36:34 GMT -6
Last year there was no way we were going into the Fargodome on senior day and after they just lost the Marker game and winning. The score reflected that. If memory serves this was also the week following our secondary scandal. Lots of things not working our way that day. |
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Post by yotefan on Oct 25, 2018 11:56:59 GMT -6
Last year there was no way we were going into the Fargodome on senior day and after they just lost the Marker game and winning. The score reflected that. If memory serves this was also the week following our secondary scandal. Lots of things not working our way that day. Not to dog-pile, but wasn't Lakes not in attendance too? Difference makers like that can't go unmentioned. =) |
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