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Post by caliyote on Apr 4, 2022 8:06:43 GMT -6
Interesting list: My guess is we will hire a female. USD currently only has one female head coach in the athletic dept but I am surely for the best coach whoever that may be. My wild card is Ruth Sinn of the University of St Thomas. I think she did a great job this year and appears to be high energy. She is also very connected in Minnesota and coached several years of AAU for North Tartan. This may help with recruiting and transfers in the future. If I were to make a guess it will probably be no one from the list. Who had Dawn Plitzuweit on their radar for USD six years ago. The future is exciting. Go Yotes!
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Post by kiyoat on Apr 4, 2022 8:07:16 GMT -6
Two different schools of thought on how attractive this USD job is:
1. Established elite mid-major with a relatively loaded roster, good recruiting region (for this sport) and great culture and support from the AD and community. This has been a launching pad for the careers of three consecutive coaches, and it could do the same for another. Also, the situation in the conference almost guarantees a certain number of wins yearly. Momentum from the Sweet 16 run should carry over into even more fan support and recruiting success.
2. Dawn has maxed out the potential, and raised expectations to a very high level, so anything less will be evaluated as failing (don't follow the legend, be the coach that follows the coach that follows the legend...). Also, if the Yotes take a step back with new systems to learn and recruit to, the Jacks will simply steamroll them in the short-term. This rivalry has become the main measuring stick, and perpetually coming in as a "strong second" won't be good enough for fan expectations.
So I think the positives far outweigh the negatives, but lets not fool ourselves and think that this is a no-brainer for every candidate. Herbster needs to find the right fit. Someone that genuinely wants to be here, and has the fire and the plan to succeed. I think he will.
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Post by soofooyote on Apr 4, 2022 8:45:27 GMT -6
Two different schools of thought on how attractive this USD job is: 1. Established elite mid-major with a relatively loaded roster, good recruiting region (for this sport) and great culture and support from the AD and community. This has been a launching pad for the careers of three consecutive coaches, and it could do the same for another. Also, the situation in the conference almost guarantees a certain number of wins yearly. Momentum from the Sweet 16 run should carry over into even more fan support and recruiting success. 2. Dawn has maxed out the potential, and raised expectations to a very high level, so anything less will be evaluated as failing (don't follow the legend, be the coach that follows the coach that follows the legend...). Also, if the Yotes take a step back with new systems to learn and recruit to, the Jacks will simply steamroll them in the short-term. This rivalry has become the main measuring stick, and perpetually coming in as a "strong second" won't be good enough for fan expectations. So I think the positives far outweigh the negatives, but lets not fool ourselves and think that this is a no-brainer for every candidate. Herbster needs to find the right fit. Someone that genuinely wants to be here, and has the fire and the plan to succeed. I think he will. Very well said, I will only add that the candidate that we want won't even consider the things mentioned in item 2. They will be confident that they can take what Amy started and Dawn built on to keep it going in an upward trajectory to where that school up north is consistently a strong second.....as they currently are. |
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Post by tanager5476 on Apr 4, 2022 8:51:01 GMT -6
How do you not include Amber Hegge Cunningham at Colorado State? Very good resume!
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Post by nccyote on Apr 4, 2022 9:00:30 GMT -6
Interesting list: My guess is we will hire a female. USD currently only has one female head coach in the athletic dept but I am surely for the best coach whoever that may be. My wild card is Ruth Sinn of the University of St Thomas. I think she did a great job this year and appears to be high energy. She is also very connected in Minnesota and coached several years of AAU for North Tartan. This may help with recruiting and transfers in the future. If I were to make a guess it will probably be no one from the list. Who had Dawn Plitzuweit on their radar for USD six years ago. The future is exciting. Go Yotes! I think Sinn makes a lot of sense. You laid it out pretty well for her. Strong recruiting ties to the region, strong AAU connection, successful D1 head coaching experience, high energy, knows the Summit League...checks a lot of boxes. |
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Post by Yotes on Apr 4, 2022 9:00:41 GMT -6
How do you not include Amber Hegge Cunningham at Colorado State? Very good resume! 5 years coaching experience. No head coaching experience. We are looking for someone with many years in both those categories. |
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Post by usdguy99 on Apr 4, 2022 9:17:41 GMT -6
How do you not include Amber Hegge Cunningham at Colorado State? Very good resume! 5 years coaching experience. No head coaching experience. We are looking for someone with many years in both those categories. Just started a family and has young children may scare her away. |
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Post by fightsd on Apr 4, 2022 9:23:46 GMT -6
How do you not include Amber Hegge Cunningham at Colorado State? Very good resume! 5 years coaching experience. No head coaching experience. We are looking for someone with many years in both those categories. I don't know about "many" years in the head coaching category. I'd be just fine with somebody that has a ton of assistant experience and an impressive 3 or 4 stint as a head coach somewhere where they elevated a program. Something like Amy did here, bringing the program to a different level. I'm not sure how much stock in put into having USD ties. Yeah it's nice to be familiar with who they bring in, but that should be a low priority IMO |
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Post by kiyoat on Apr 4, 2022 9:39:43 GMT -6
5 years coaching experience. No head coaching experience. We are looking for someone with many years in both those categories. I don't know about "many" years in the head coaching category. I'd be just fine with somebody that has a ton of assistant experience and an impressive 3 or 4 stint as a head coach somewhere where they elevated a program. Something like Amy did here, bringing the program to a different level. I'm not sure how much stock in put into having USD ties. Yeah it's nice to be familiar with who they bring in, but that should be a low priority IMO I agree on the USD ties. Having a DIRECT connection to the Coach P line could be good in terms of maintaining a similar system, but even Kayla has now been exposed to other systems that she might incorporate. Forcing the candidates to have ties to the University is too limiting. It's way less important than getting the best person for the job, wherever he/she comes from. AD DH has said that a coach with experience recruiting this region holds weight for him, though. And I agree with that. And by region, I'd say the Midwest region as a whole. Recruiting ties can take time to develop, and we don't want to have to start from square one. |
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Post by usdcoyote on Apr 4, 2022 9:40:37 GMT -6
As far as that article went about potential replacements, I was kind of intrigued by Molly Miller, the Grand Canyon head coach. Looks like she had great success at Drury before going to Grand Canyon where she has had pretty good success compared to what they have had before. The article did mention she might be a tough get. I'm not sure if that is because of pay or location or what. It certainly wouldn't have anything to do with quality of program. She wouldn't come with some of the Midwest recruiting connections that some of these other coaches would come with though.
It does seem that Herbster values head coaching experience. However, I don't know if I saw it in the men's thread or where, but I was surprised to see how many of the last 10 Summit League men's tournament winners came from coaches that had no previous head coaching experience, so I wonder if that is an overrated box that needs to be checked.
As far as the assistants with no head coaching experience that I have heard mentioned the one that would interests me the most is Kayla Karlus. I've heard real good things about her.
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Post by soofooyote on Apr 4, 2022 10:16:05 GMT -6
What's everyone's thoughts on a timeline for an announcement? I'm hopeful to know who are coach is sooner rather than later from a recruiting perspective.
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Post by kiyoat on Apr 4, 2022 10:47:15 GMT -6
What's everyone's thoughts on a timeline for an announcement? I'm hopeful to know who are coach is sooner rather than later from a recruiting perspective. Well, the national tournaments are over. Sometimes that is a thing to wait for, if the team in question is still playing. The Final Four is also a national coaches convention. It often is a convenient time to interview coaches, so maybe that happened this past weekend. Herbster mentioned that he always has a list of replacement coaches for a starting point. I can't imagine it will be much longer, based on his previous hires. For us it feels like an eternity, but it really hasn't been that long. Coach P hasn't even held her press conference as the new WVU hire (that's tomorrow). |
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Post by usdguy99 on Apr 4, 2022 15:54:54 GMT -6
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Post by tanager5476 on Apr 4, 2022 16:09:38 GMT -6
5 years coaching experience. No head coaching experience. We are looking for someone with many years in both those categories. Just started a family and has young children may scare her away. How does moving closer to home, being closer to family, know exactly what it takes to win at the U. Working with and for Ryun Williams, and Chad Lavin. What better representative and recruiter for the Coyote program that no one else can offer. |
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Post by Yotes on Apr 4, 2022 17:01:19 GMT -6
Just started a family and has young children may scare her away. How does moving closer to home, being closer to family, know exactly what it takes to win at the U. Working with and for Ryun Williams, and Chad Lavin. What better representative and recruiter for the Coyote program that no one else can offer. 6 years ago I could have replied to this question with "Dawn Plitzuweit" and I'm guessing you would have strongly fought against the idea, given her then complete lack of ties to USD. I agree with the other posters who think ties to USD should be a low priority. |
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