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Post by captaincoyote on Dec 9, 2022 14:59:00 GMT -6
It at least appears that we are retaining our QB recruit. Seems like a good sign.
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Post by dbyote on Dec 9, 2022 16:04:41 GMT -6
I just watched the kid's highlights. He has a slightly unorthodox throwing motion (whip-like), but has plenty of arm strength to challenge the entire field. He also seems to anticipate throws which is hard to teach. Accuracy looks good too. Plenty of physical talent and athleticism. Hopefully he comes in and lights the world on fire. Now if only we can recruit some quality big boys. That's what we need to compete right now.
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Post by yote18 on Dec 9, 2022 19:52:09 GMT -6
I just watched the kid's highlights. He has a slightly unorthodox throwing motion (whip-like), but has plenty of arm strength to challenge the entire field. He also seems to anticipate throws which is hard to teach. Accuracy looks good too. Plenty of physical talent and athleticism. Hopefully he comes in and lights the world on fire. Now if only we can recruit some quality big boys. That's what we need to compete right now. We need that and an OC |
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Post by bobo on Dec 16, 2022 19:14:44 GMT -6
WHY is there no OC announced by now? Really playing with fire in recruiting skill kids as well as keeping them on your own roster. Can’t imagine it’s going over really well in the locker room.
The only scenario I can imagine it’s ok is if the new OC is from NDSU, SDSU, Montana St or Incarnate Word at this point. Anything else is inexcusable.
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Post by Yotes on Dec 16, 2022 19:34:21 GMT -6
If we are hiring from one of those 4 schools then the person is a position coach. I have my doubts the next OC is working at an FCS school.
I'm not saying things are great, but I don't know if it's worth panicking over. I'm stunned we kept Bob but the hiring process of a new OC has not been anything crazy to me.
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Post by fightsd on Dec 17, 2022 7:48:08 GMT -6
I'm still in apathy mode about football. Please just make a move that gets me interested again.
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Post by yote18 on Dec 18, 2022 11:24:18 GMT -6
Has there been any talk of possibilities? It’s a little concerning that the search is taking this long.
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Post by Yotes on Dec 18, 2022 12:24:14 GMT -6
Northwestern (IA) only just won the NAIA national championship yesterday, watch for us to hire their OC in the coming days.
(Kidding, but our last coordinator hire came from the NAIA so....)
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Post by obc on Dec 18, 2022 12:48:57 GMT -6
I am very concerned with the football program. The OC spot has been open since September 10th when our previous OC sealed his own fate with his conduct. The strong rumors coming out of the program when Bob was given a vote of confidence with a tonally strange announcement by our AD on November 19th after an ugly blowout beat down at home to UNI was that Bob would be hiring not only an OC, but his eventual successor. I have not seen an actual contract extension announced, just talk of one for what it is worth. Looks like his first choice for OC may have fizzled out. A splash hire is needed, and needed soon.
Not having the OC in place hurts recruiting. The program has one less person working on recruiting - that alone hurts. The new OC will inevitably have his own staff to bring in. The existing offensive staff will likely not have guaranteed spots next year. They know this. That distraction does not exactly energize them to recruit for USD. The early signing date is this coming Wednesday. Take a look at the surrounding states - Minnesota, Nebraska, and Iowa. Look at the All-State teams for each state and classification. How many of those kids are USD getting commitments from? Compare that to SDSU, NDSU, UND, UNI - how many are they getting. That gives you a good gauge of USD's success recruiting against the teams we are competing against in our footprint. The facilities are in place. The narrative for years was that we just needed the facilities to get the players. Time to prove it. We have the facilities completed and a HC that is heading into his 8th season.
Very disappointed this position is not filled. This program can win, and the time to show it is now. The cycle of excuses and the "we will get them next year mentality", needs to be retired.
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Post by sdyotefan on Dec 18, 2022 14:28:32 GMT -6
obc--I agree that it is not ideal to not have an OC hired but disagree that it has a great impact on recruiting. I believe players and parents look more at HC and his background. I want us to have the best possible hire as you do and that means don't jump at the first or second candidate!!
We already have a good group of recruits with more probably by Wed plus a ton of portal players to offer to fill gaps!
To potential recruits--THE University of South Dakota is the number one academically rated university in SD and offers a mulititude of educational opportunities, besides great DI fb competition and state of art facilities!!
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Post by obc on Dec 18, 2022 14:52:49 GMT -6
obc--I agree that it is not ideal to not have an OC hired but disagree that it has a great impact on recruiting. I believe players and parents look more at HC and his background. I want us to have the best possible hire as you do and that means don't jump at the first or second candidate!! We already have a good group of recruits with more probably by Wed plus a ton of portal players to offer to fill gaps! To potential recruits--THE University of South Dakota is the number one academically rated university in SD and offers a mulititude of educational opportunities, besides great DI fb competition and state of art facilities!! Players may make their decision mainly by who the head coach is. Having a great academic institution helps. But at a minimum the USD Football staff has one fewer employee out there telling that story. That is one fewer coach making recruiting calls - talking to recruits and HS coaches. The other remaining USD offensive coaches must be wondering if they will be retained by a new OC. It is natural in a situation like that to be looking at options for the future. Recruiting is an amazing amount of work and the assistant coaches do much of the ground work. It hurts not having this solidified. |
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Post by geoffjellic on Dec 18, 2022 16:38:07 GMT -6
obc--I agree that it is not ideal to not have an OC hired but disagree that it has a great impact on recruiting. I believe players and parents look more at HC and his background. I want us to have the best possible hire as you do and that means don't jump at the first or second candidate!! We already have a good group of recruits with more probably by Wed plus a ton of portal players to offer to fill gaps! To potential recruits--THE University of South Dakota is the number one academically rated university in SD and offers a mulititude of educational opportunities, besides great DI fb competition and state of art facilities!! Players may make their decision mainly by who the head coach is. Having a great academic institution helps. But at a minimum the USD Football staff has one fewer employee out there telling that story. That is one fewer coach making recruiting calls - talking to recruits and HS coaches. The other remaining USD offensive coaches must be wondering if they will be retained by a new OC. It is natural in a situation like that to be looking at options for the future. Recruiting is an amazing amount of work and the assistant coaches do much of the ground work. It hurts not having this solidified. Disagree on some of the above….. style of play is certainly a major factor in keeping players and recruiting players. So, USD is in a different place without an OC. How can Bobby close the deal on recruits or portal players without knowing who is running the offense. Awfully easy for recruits to pass on a team of uncertainty. |
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Post by MD on Dec 18, 2022 19:19:01 GMT -6
obc--I agree that it is not ideal to not have an OC hired but disagree that it has a great impact on recruiting. I believe players and parents look more at HC and his background. I want us to have the best possible hire as you do and that means don't jump at the first or second candidate!! We already have a good group of recruits with more probably by Wed plus a ton of portal players to offer to fill gaps! To potential recruits--THE University of South Dakota is the number one academically rated university in SD and offers a mulititude of educational opportunities, besides great DI fb competition and state of art facilities!! Respectfully disagree to some of this. I can't imagine Bob sitting in most living rooms in America and a high school senior saying I wanna play for that guy. I gotta believe the vast majority of the kids that are here are here because of the OC DC and position coaches. Maybe I'm wrong. But I wholeheartedly agree that for an opening we've known about since Sept to not be filled just hours before early signing is more than concerning. |
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Post by fightsd on Dec 19, 2022 20:06:10 GMT -6
obc--I agree that it is not ideal to not have an OC hired but disagree that it has a great impact on recruiting. I believe players and parents look more at HC and his background. I want us to have the best possible hire as you do and that means don't jump at the first or second candidate!! We already have a good group of recruits with more probably by Wed plus a ton of portal players to offer to fill gaps! To potential recruits--THE University of South Dakota is the number one academically rated university in SD and offers a mulititude of educational opportunities, besides great DI fb competition and state of art facilities!! Having a great academic institution is a nice bonus, but it's not bringing in recruits. Football players want to play football. |
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Post by bobo on Dec 19, 2022 22:02:55 GMT -6
Kids are definitely not making decisions off the academics at a school at the FCS level, other than do they have my major. The priority list for a high school kid comes down to 4 things in no certain order because all kids are different.
1- facilities
2- potential impact (opportunities to play or compete)
3- relationships built w/ coaches and/or players
4- program success - sometimes counterbalanced if kid can play early
**5th component for QBs & WRs is definitely style of play
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