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Post by quadshock on Oct 22, 2011 15:57:37 GMT -6
Tied at 10 each right now. The game just got a lot more exciting
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Post by pierreyote on Oct 22, 2011 16:57:50 GMT -6
Is it our play calling, execution or a bit of both? Our offense is not playing well. A fantastic play by Blount but other than that the passing game is putrid. I can't remember the last intermediate route for a completion.
Nowotny- maybe one of the best possession receivers in Yote history.
Powell- The best receiver in Yote history
Blount- one of the fastest and biggest playmakers in Yote history
Ganious- a top 3 all time rusher
Simms-an absolute beast at RB that always moves forward
Dante- a solid dual threat that has flashed playmaker ability.
O-line- Compton getting 3rd NFL grade and other veterans.
What is the issue with our offense?
Not trying to point blame just wondering what is wrong.
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Post by agalum on Oct 22, 2011 17:17:43 GMT -6
Got to give the opponent some credit
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Post by pierreyote on Oct 22, 2011 17:30:13 GMT -6
I do and UC-Davis is a solid team but our issues have pretty much been season long.
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Post by agalum on Oct 22, 2011 17:39:50 GMT -6
Well, you guys are going to get this one but it sounds like it was an exciting game. Good luck with the rest of your season.
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Post by pierreyote on Oct 22, 2011 17:54:27 GMT -6
The Yote's defense stepped up in 2nd half and won that game. They forced TO's, which the offense failed to convert the field positioninto points, and scored a pick 6. A win is a win.
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Post by 88grad on Oct 22, 2011 19:35:04 GMT -6
We won this game today despite our offense. We were out runned and out passed but still got the W. I wish I knew what was going on with the O but something just isn't clicking. The play calling was, at times, questionable. The execution was, at times, ineffective. Just dont' know.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Oct 22, 2011 20:05:20 GMT -6
I really don't know what to say other than most of what I witnessed today was unimpressive and uninspiring.
USD came out flat, how the heck does that happen after last week. The Coyotes have more players making plays on defense than they do on O. These are the two things that really stood out to me. USD for whatever reason is scared on offense. There are two reasons for this. Either the playing calling with Wes and or Ed is holding back the Yotes. Either that or they simply don't trust Dante throwing the ball. Maybe some of both. Whatever it is the Yotes are not attacking at all on offense. Whatever happened to the days of old when Caruso and others that were in charge of the offense where ready to go for the kill at almost any instance. What stood out to me is when USD had a turnover and started in Davis territory late in the 4th quarter. They had the ball on about the 25 yard line and I think could have really salted the game away by throwing to the endzone but did not.
Sorry to the Dante appologists but Warren simply is not very good at passing the ball or reading defenses and/or changing plays at the LOS. Warren simply does not stack up to Beschorner or Shepard when it comes to being the CEO of an offense.
The defense played ok but really not that well either. The whole team for whatever reason was flat as was the dome and where the heck were the students again.
UC-Davis was by far the least impressive team of the 3 FCS teams I saw this year. They had no business even being within 3 touchdowns of the Yotes today.
If the Yotes bring the effort and execution today on the road with them they will not only lose but be blown out in their last two Great West games. All will be forgiven with a win at Cal Poly but I don't see it happening.
The Yotes got extremely lucky today but the team that left the dome on D-days is certainly not the team that we saw today.
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Post by usdfbalum on Oct 22, 2011 21:58:10 GMT -6
UC Davis is a solid FCS team and beating them without a great Coyote offensive showing tells us that our program has stepped forward. IMO SD's biggest current problem (a big one) is that the OL as a unit is struggling right now. There are defensive guys in Dante's face on passing downs way too often and he is not the type of QB that does well when that happens. I am baffled as to why SD does not attempt to work the ball over the middle on play action or quick drop back passes. Ganious looked much better today - my guess is his ankle has gotten better. Has a TE caught a pass since Nielsen was sidelined a few games back? I disagree with the statement that the Coyotes came out flat today. UC Davis came out ready to play - they were well coached and did not quit. Is it our play calling, execution or a bit of both? Our offense is not playing well. A fantastic play by Blount but other than that the passing game is putrid. I can't remember the last intermediate route for a completion. Nowotny- maybe one of the best possession receivers in Yote history. Powell- The best receiver in Yote history Blount- one of the fastest and biggest playmakers in Yote history Ganious- a top 3 all time rusher Simms-an absolute beast at RB that always moves forward Dante- a solid dual threat that has flashed playmaker ability. O-line- Compton getting 3rd NFL grade and other veterans. What is the issue with our offense? Not trying to point blame just wondering what is wrong.
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Post by yoteforever on Oct 23, 2011 8:48:22 GMT -6
I really don't know what to say other than most of what I witnessed today was unimpressive and uninspiring. USD came out flat, how the heck does that happen after last week. The Coyotes have more players making plays on defense than they do on O. These are the two things that really stood out to me. USD for whatever reason is scared on offense. There are two reasons for this. Either the playing calling with Wes and or Ed is holding back the Yotes. Either that or they simply don't trust Dante throwing the ball. Maybe some of both. Whatever it is the Yotes are not attacking at all on offense. Whatever happened to the days of old when Caruso and others that were in charge of the offense where ready to go for the kill at almost any instance. What stood out to me is when USD had a turnover and started in Davis territory late in the 4th quarter. They had the ball on about the 25 yard line and I think could have really salted the game away by throwing to the endzone but did not. Sorry to the Dante appologists but Warren simply is not very good at passing the ball or reading defenses and/or changing plays at the LOS. Warren simply does not stack up to Beschorner or Shepard when it comes to being the CEO of an offense. The defense played ok but really not that well either. The whole team for whatever reason was flat as was the dome and where the heck were the students again. UC-Davis was by far the least impressive team of the 3 FCS teams I saw this year. They had no business even being within 3 touchdowns of the Yotes today. If the Yotes bring the effort and execution today on the road with them they will not only lose but be blown out in their last two Great West games. All will be forgiven with a win at Cal Poly but I don't see it happening. The Yotes got extremely lucky today but the team that left the dome on D-days is certainly not the team that we saw today. There are some things in your post I agree with, but some others I just shake my head. Offensively, we just aren't very good right now. Why? I don't know. I have a thought but don't know it's right or not. I do believe the offensive line is really playing poorly, and they shouldn't be. I think that's coaching. I believe we miss Coach Spencer a ton. Not making excuses, but our BOR has to wake up and let athletic departments offer more than 1 year contracts. Is Dante as good athrower as Noah or Wes? No he isn't. But this year more than any other I can't remember a time where our Quarterback sets up in the pocket, and less than one second later is running for his life because the pocket broke down. I feel, and I might be wrong, that's line play. Give UCD credit, they aren't a bad ball team. Actually all 4 teams in the Great West are pretty darned even. UCD is a well coached team. Here is what me shakes your head about your post. You say the D played ok, but not great. Are you kidding me? That defense won the game for the first time in a very long time. They gave up some yards, but they did some excellent stuff on the field. I think they were damned good yesterday. That defense has come a longggggggggggggggg ways compared to years past. I do agree with the statement we were lucky to get the win. But sometimes you need a little luck. That's part of the game. 2 years ago against UCD we were unlucky, so now it's even. I am fearful we are going to struggle at Cal-Poly. I hope I am wrong. But no matter what............I will always be a COYOTE.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Oct 23, 2011 11:25:17 GMT -6
I agree with everything Yoteforever said and would like to add to it.
The offense needs to go for more than just all or nothing. I have been hearing a lot that there aren't enough short passing plays, and with the line playing as bad as they have, the team needs those routes if their is not a lot of time to throw. Plus the defense is always playing for the bomb since that's all that happens in USD's passing game.
Most of Dante's inability is caused by the offensive line, even though I do believe is accuracy isn't always great, but it's tough for any quarterback to throw a clean ball when you are scrambling around all of the time.
I agree Spencer was a good coach and USD does miss him, but the players on the line have been there for a bit and were coached by Spencer. There is a lack of depth on the offensive line, and that goes to recruiting on the line. I feel team has not brought in an impact lineman since Compton it seems. No offense to Matt Porish, but he was a tight end for most of his career and is now a left guard ... that screams lack of depth and poor recruiting right there. That needs to be fixed this offseason.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Oct 23, 2011 12:01:14 GMT -6
Just a few numbers to consider. Take them for what you will.
In the game vs USD the Aggies had 378 total yard for and 257 yards against. UCD had about a 50 yard advantage before they went into their 2 minute offense.
Against D2 Humboldt State at home UCD had 365 yards for and 370 yards against in a 23-17 loss.
Against a very good Montana State team UCD had a 507 to 296 disadvantage in yards in a 38-14 loss.
Most of the other games they had were against FBS and non schollie FCS teams. Generally USD's defense gave up about the same amount of yards as the other teams did. Not bad, not great but average. I never said that the D had a bad game. They made a couple of nice plays including a defensive touchdown.
At the end of the day USD won the game and that is what counts. I believe deep down inside that USD won more because of UCD simply not being a very good team moreso than what the Yotes did themselves. I was not nearly as impressed with the Aggies as I was with both E Wash and S Utah and both of those teams have already proven to be average teams. The UC-Davis team I saw 2 years ago was much more impressive and I thought USD played much better as well eventhough they lost.
If the Coyotes can still lay claim to the Great West title we can forget about this game but if USD struggles on the road to end the season this game will become much more of a factor and a sign of things to come when looking at things in retrospect after the UND game in finished.
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Post by jman1985 on Oct 23, 2011 13:12:09 GMT -6
I'll go on record as saying I think UC Davis looked better than Eastern Washington and Southern Utah. Passing wise, Randy Wright is a great quarterback, he was cool, collected, didn't panic, and more often than not made beautiful passes. The Aggies did a really good job using routes over the middle, most of the time it looked like simple slants, a couple for big yardage. I can see why the UC Davis coaches are very high on Wright, he's got a great career ahead of him. There was the one through he made that was intercepted by Broders, where Broders just read him perfectly and jumped the route. And the pick six by Adam wasn't Wright's fault, it was batted down near the line.
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Post by coloneljessup on Oct 23, 2011 18:04:51 GMT -6
Was there as well yesterday. What I saw was a defense that was on the field a ton due to the inability of the offense. Did not like that we didn't pressure the QB early. However, and I'm Not sure of time of possession, but I would guess it to be about 35 to 38min on the field for our defense-and 22-25min. for ucd's d. The defense caused 4 turnovers, one for a score, and another that should have been. There was also a huge kickoff return that gave the offense the ball on the16 yard line. After each of these big plays, it was 3 and out, 3 and out, etc. What do you want the defense to do? When the big moments of the game came, the yotes made big plays defensively like Potter's stop near the goal line that caused a field goal, Starr causing a fumble, Broders picks, etc.
The defense is playing solid, yes, they are giving up yards between the 20's, but who cares. When you are left on the field due to 3 and outs, the offense is eventually going to get something going. I also thought their QB was very good, unlucky today with the fumbles and the tipped int., but good nonetheless.
To me, the flat out issue is the offense. Is it just me or is our offensive identity one of deception, double passes, reverses, run to the line of scrimmage throw a lateral and get 2 yards. etc. especially after turnovers or on favorable down and distance situations. This is D1, not high school, correct? I have a novel idea. How about I formation and pound Marcus Sims 25 times? He is a stud, runs north and south, no nonsense. Then run some play action off that. If compton is NFL good, let's run behind him. Yesterday's offense was 2 plays. An underthrown bomb that Will made a great adjustment on, and a screen that was a high throw, one which got the defender out of position. Other than that, 68 yards passing in about 24 other attempts. The negative razzle dazzle stupid plays have to go, especially with a back like Sims IMHO.
I guess in summary I feel the defense is physical, one decent pass rusher opposite starr from being a dominant defense. Broders and Williams are very good, the dbs are too. There is going to be huge losses next year without broders, potter, williams, thompson, etc on D.
Side note. Thompson has had the ball in his hands 4 times this year (2 ints, and 2 returns yesterday)and gone over 65 yards with it twice. He was a receiver at Minny. Maybe we could find a way to get him the ball once a game like yesterday. Was impressed with how he showed patience on the return, then exploded through the coverage on the return. His size and speed make him an interesting alternative because he can break an arm tackle with his size. We saw that with Marcus last year on kickoffs as well. This is not a rip on Jeremy, just something I think can help the team.
We need to find a way to win on Saturday, then we win conference. Get er done, Yotes!
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Post by pierreyote on Oct 23, 2011 18:42:54 GMT -6
100% agreed. Our defense gave up some yards but no doubt won that game. I agree with your comments concerning the offense.
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