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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 19, 2011 22:44:48 GMT -6
Those that were up at the game today should start filtering back into their homes. It will be interesting to hear from those that were at the game from everything to the game day atmosphere to the feeling from the sidelines during different portions of the game.
It was nice to see the big pocket of red in the stands and really great to hear our band playing as well. I really feel for the fans that had/have to make the long trip home. Thanks for making the trip up north and supporting the team today. There have been some arrows taken to the heart of many Coyote fans today.
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Post by irish on Nov 19, 2011 23:32:25 GMT -6
I'm a Fighting Sioux fan and not trying to troll, but need to comment on today's game: South Dakota leaving the field without shaking hands was as classless a move as I have ever seen - really I know that you are disappointed, but come on Hosing us on the conference was one thing, but this really is pathetic Grow up SD
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 20, 2011 0:59:15 GMT -6
I am sure the Coyotes are disappointed just like your Women's basketball team was when they left the court without shaking hands during the Yotes 2008 run. What goes around comes around. I do agree about the conference ploy. Maybe there was a little karma being displayed at the Alerus Center because of that. The Sioux did not deserve to win this game but they also kinda did not deserve to be left at the alter by USD at the last second when they decided to stay in the midwest with the Summit and MVFC.
What hurts from a USD perspective is that they may not have another chance to try to win one in Grand Forks for awhile after this year. USD's record against North Dakota is very poor over the past couple of decades.
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Post by sdyotefan on Nov 20, 2011 3:25:39 GMT -6
I can't blame the coaches much for this loss. Watching the game it was obvious that overall the Coyotes had the most talented team and they competed very hard. But as Yogi Berra once said about baseball (which is true of all sports) "that baseball is 90% mental and the other half is physical". Players have to play smart and know when to fight hard for that extra yd and when to live to fight another down. We have a great punter and it would have been better to use him more in the last quarter rather than turn the ball over. ND is not a quick strike team offensively so make them go 60-70 yds instead of 20 or 50 with the time left. And congrats to ND--they did what they had to to hang in there. Yote fans are all very disappointed about this game and the way the season finished and yes we could have been 8-3 but there are a lot of 4-7 teams (or worse) that would love to trade places with us! And of the 5 losses 2 were to BCS teams and the other 3 were FCS teams that were all ranked in the top 25 one week or more! Looking forward to the MV (and it will be very challenging!) and no more transition!! GO YOTES!!!
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Nov 20, 2011 3:57:31 GMT -6
I'm a Fighting Sioux fan and not trying to troll, but need to comment on today's game: South Dakota leaving the field without shaking hands was as classless a move as I have ever seen - really I know that you are disappointed, but come on Hosing us on the conference was one thing, but this really is pathetic Grow up SD Kind of reminds you when the UND women team ran off the court in Vermillion after not shaking hands when USD beat them for the conference title. Or was that when Ashley Langdon intentially fouled Hoffman at the end of the game and pulled her back by her jersey as hard as she could ... or when she also called the fans classless for booing when they ran off the court without shaking hands ... Yes, it was not good that the USD football team did that, but UND perfected that move.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Nov 20, 2011 4:01:29 GMT -6
I can't blame the coaches much for this loss. Watching the game it was obvious that overall the Coyotes had the most talented team and they competed very hard. But as Yogi Berra once said about baseball (which is true of all sports) "that baseball is 90% mental and the other half is physical". Players have to play smart and know when to fight hard for that extra yd and when to live to fight another down. We have a great punter and it would have been better to use him more in the last quarter rather than turn the ball over. ND is not a quick strike team offensively so make them go 60-70 yds instead of 20 or 50 with the time left. And congrats to ND--they did what they had to to hang in there. Yote fans are all very disappointed about this game and the way the season finished and yes we could have been 8-3 but there are a lot of 4-7 teams (or worse) that would love to trade places with us! And of the 5 losses 2 were to BCS teams and the other 3 were FCS teams that were all ranked in the top 25 one week or more! Looking forward to the MV (and it will be very challenging!) and no more transition!! GO YOTES!!! Where do the players get their smarts from? Isn't it suppose to be from coaching? Oh yeah. Yeah I put a lot of this on the coaches because it's a mentality that the head coach has not fixed it seems and it has trickled down. He blamed the assistants for it? My God, take control of YOUR team. This was the final straw. I am sick of seeing these just downright awful road losses. How many times can a team blow a 20-point lead in the fourth quarter in one season with a conference title on the line? Seriously, there needs to be changes. The Yotes have dropped too many disappointing games since moving D-I. This needs to be a D-I program and USF has had two better showings in UND than USD has had since 1985.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 20, 2011 4:21:47 GMT -6
Is there anyway we could trade a head coach and a radio announcer for another head coach and radio announcer.
I don't know about the radio announcer but aren't Urban Meyer and Jim Tressell available? Joe Paterno might need a place to coach next year :-) Brad Childress also might need a job but I don't think I'd bite on that one :-)
Actually if I am USD aside from the players I completely kick everyone else off the bus including every single coach and every single radio announcer, including the equipment that is used for the broadcasts. And when the bus gets back to Vermillion they can throw away all the equipment used to put on Coyote vision. Thankfully I really haven't had to listen much lately but to no one's surprise the radio interview with Meierkort was skipped again. If they do have an interview it usually lasts about 20 seconds anyway.
Sayler needs to go to the store and buy a broom, a mop, a bucket, maybe a vacume, some cleaner, Some windex (so the AD can get a clear picture of the football program) because he has an awfull lot of house cleaning to do. Maybe he can get it all done at once. :-) ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2011 9:02:57 GMT -6
Is there anyway we could trade a head coach and a radio announcer for another head coach and radio announcer. I don't know about the radio announcer but aren't Urban Meyer and Jim Tressell available? Joe Paterno might need a place to coach next year :-) Brad Childress also might need a job but I don't think I'd bite on that one :-) Actually if I am USD aside from the players I completely kick everyone else off the bus including every single coach and every single radio announcer, including the equipment that is used for the broadcasts. And when the bus gets back to Vermillion they can throw away all the equipment used to put on Coyote vision. Thankfully I really haven't had to listen much lately but to no one's surprise the radio interview with Meierkort was skipped again. If they do have an interview it usually lasts about 20 seconds anyway. Sayler needs to go to the store and buy a broom, a mop, a bucket, maybe a vacume, some cleaner, Some windex (so the AD can get a clear picture of the football program) because he has an awfull lot of house cleaning to do. Maybe he can get it all done at once. :-) ;-) You must have a lot of money and can replace everything. I know it was a tough loss, but shucks life goes on. Its suppose to be 60 degrees on Turkey Day.
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Post by 88grad on Nov 20, 2011 9:03:30 GMT -6
Okay, I've had a night to sleep on it and I've got something to add to this cyber-lynching. Not one coach or coordinator yesterday fumbled the ball. The players on the field lost the ball three time that all resulted in UND touchdowns. Doesn't matter that Warren's first fumble was a blown call, the whistle wasn't blown until UND cross the goal line with the ball. Now, take out the 14 points off of those fumbles prior to the 4th quarter and who knows how the game would have played out. Would have been 34-3...
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Post by coyotega on Nov 20, 2011 9:22:43 GMT -6
As alums know, this affects recruiting, affects financial support for the team and university, affects most everyone's attitude toward how well some state employees are doing their jobs. Perhaps unfairly, but that is how it is. The USD color guy on the radio either has little football background, or cannot describe the intricacies of a play, so I have no idea what was really going on as our defense collapsed.
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Post by joeybrownerhof on Nov 20, 2011 10:07:49 GMT -6
I have to agree about our radio team. I listened to the game and had no idea what was going on multiple times during the game. There was no explanation. I would rather listen to Cullhane be a homer and cry on air than hear dead air from our current radio team.
I will let people above my pay grade make decisions on changes to fb program.
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Post by fssd on Nov 20, 2011 10:43:24 GMT -6
I understand yesterday was a tough loss for USD players and fans. I just wanted to say that I was very impressed by the support from the USD fans and band. I wish you guys all the best in MVFC and I will be cheering for USD from a distance. I hope that USD/UND do find away to play again in the near future. Couple of other comments:
- The USD/UND have made it through the football transition (I know it is not official until this summer) and they made it into two autobid conferences and two of the better FCS conferences in the country. - I think Ed has done a good job at USD and it will be interesting to see how he does in the MVFC. Ed appears to have good connections in Illinois and the MVFC should help.
- No one should be upset by one team leaving the field after the game without shaking hands. UND players/coaches were celebrating the win. Coach Mussman talked about Ed in very positive terms after the game. So, it had nothing to do with poor sportsmanship.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 20, 2011 12:51:16 GMT -6
Okay, I've had a night to sleep on it and I've got something to add to this cyber-lynching. Not one coach or coordinator yesterday fumbled the ball. The players on the field lost the ball three time that all resulted in UND touchdowns. Doesn't matter that Warren's first fumble was a blown call, the whistle wasn't blown until UND cross the goal line with the ball. Now, take out the 14 points off of those fumbles prior to the 4th quarter and who knows how the game would have played out. Would have been 34-3... What you are saying is 100% accurate. The players have their responsbility in all of this. The thing is, and has been said already more than once in this thread, these types of things have just tended to happen during the Meierkort era regardless of the supporting case (meaning players, assistants etc). Ed is the only constant with this footbal program since 2004. Exceptions such as injuries, player performance etc cause teams to lose games. Coaching is generally what causes things over era's. The Coyotes have everything from a player personell situation in their corner as an asset. They have studs on both sides of the ball, they have better depth than in the past, they have experience and one thing that hasn't really been mentioned is that they have been remarkable injury free. The Yotes have such an advantage coming into every game other than the FBS games. With the roster the Coyotes have (and that is to Ed's credit) there has to be serious deficiencies in some or all of strategy, preperation, discipline, gameplanning and in game adjusting (which I think is the biggest issue). If we do move forward with Meierkort, which is my prediction than Sayler needs to start taking some responsibility as well. Afterall he is Ed's boss. Those not happy with our situation can gaze one eye at the AD position if the program continues on this path and things don't improve. We absolutely need experienced coordinators on both sides of the ball that are both hired from the outside. It's definately been proven that Ed needs that to succeed. If you put Ed in charge of recruiting, program promotion and things such as that he is really good in those areas. With coaching to match player talent this is a playoff team this year if they would be eligible. Ok putting the red glasses down for a moment what would anyone think at the start of the transition if you knew the program would win a total of 2 FCS road games. That would be unacceptable to any fan. I hate rationalizing losing and this is unacceptable in any manner that the games are lost. If change is not needed after that type of record I don't know what other situation would qualify more emphatically.
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Post by coyote70 on Nov 20, 2011 21:40:21 GMT -6
I may be with the minority here but I'm very much in favor of keeping our coach.
Sure, the head coach is where the buck stops but it appears there is plenty of blame to go around. I've seen head coaches replaced at many institutions only to see things get worse. Right now I see more downside than upside if a change is made. This program may be a bit fragile right now. I say support the program/coach and take a longer term point of view.
I guess I prefer something akin to a business-like perspective. Does losing a couple of games warrant the complete overhauling of a program, or are there other changes we can make to improve the situation?
In an earlier post I mentioned the importance of preparation - especially mental preparation. I think the yotes went into the game hoping to win not expecting to win. I want to get to that next level. Does that involve coaching? You bet it does, but it is more than that believe me....
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Nov 21, 2011 0:30:05 GMT -6
This goes beyond just a couple of games this year. Actually it would be three games for sure, and a lot of road games dating back to the D-II days.
It's time to lay the hammer down, since Ed already threw his assistants under the bus... He has no problem passing the blame.
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