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Post by yotemeal on Sept 28, 2015 12:13:03 GMT -6
This could be good news, assuming they leave us on the schedule. Traveling to Australia is a big deal. Perhaps we catch the Bears a bit groggy. I'm glad we're not playing this year; they've got some real weapons. Of course, we'll have no shortage of question marks next season.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Sept 28, 2015 19:36:00 GMT -6
I know I'm a little bit late to the party but I'm stoked that our two programs will be playing each other in the coming years I think our teams have only ever met once before and it ended in a tie I think. It's funny to think how close it came to actually being conference foes, but even though I would have loved seeing you guys in the Big Sky you guys are a perfect fit where you are now, makes me wonder how long it will be till North Dakota joins you guys, not that I want them to, but it would be a better geographical fit for them. Good luck on the remainder of your season I am assuming you're a Weber State fan by your handle. I am glad to be playing Weber State as well because I like it when the Yotes broaden their horizons and play schools that they don't typically play or have never played. I am of the belief that the conference season is basically for rivalries and the non conference is for playing a wide variety of different teams including the Big Sky but maybe not as often as they have been. I don't see the need for another home and home against UNC but most would probably rather watch an old rivalry vs a newer type game. If the Yotes want to stay in the Big Sky I would like to see them schedule Portland State, Weber State (which is now reality), Idaho State and Sacramento State. It has been along time since the Yotes have played other teams aside from the Big Sky and a non scholarship program. These are some programs I would like to see the Yotes try to schedule for a home and home series, Coastal Carolina, Villanova, Maine, New Hampshire, Delaware, Rhode Island, anyone in the Ivy League, especially Harvard or Yale, Delaware State, Florida A&M, anyone in the Ohio Valley as that conference is not that far away, Chattanooga, Citadel, Western Carolina. Just my opinion is all. |
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Post by wrj on Sept 28, 2015 19:38:33 GMT -6
Let me preface this by saying I know nothing about it. I only post for the purpose of inspiring a post from someone who might. I would guess that one of two things will happen if t hey want to drop the yotes from the schedule. The first would be that they sell the contract to someone else and you find yourself on someone else's schedule. The other is that they just pay you the guarantee and let you buy negotiate a game with a different opponent.
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Post by Yote 53 on Sept 29, 2015 8:04:08 GMT -6
You want to know why we play more teams from out west in non-conference action (Big Sky teams)? Because our alumni base is shifted more to the west than it is to the south or east. That and we have a decent alumni base out in Rapid City which is a jumping off point for all teams to the west such as Montana, UNC, etc. Would not be surprised to see Wyoming on the schedule someday in the near future. We're bringing the football team to our alumni, simple as that.
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Post by coyote70 on Sept 29, 2015 9:20:09 GMT -6
Rapid City is closer to Laramie than Vermillion by over 100 miles.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Sept 29, 2015 18:09:45 GMT -6
You want to know why we play more teams from out west in non-conference action (Big Sky teams)? Because our alumni base is shifted more to the west than it is to the south or east. That and we have a decent alumni base out in Rapid City which is a jumping off point for all teams to the west such as Montana, UNC, etc. Would not be surprised to see Wyoming on the schedule someday in the near future. We're bringing the football team to our alumni, simple as that. I think Wyoming would be a very good game to schedule. I would like to see USD schedule more FBS teams that they would have a reasonable chance to beat instead of just scheduling games purely on name recognition. I would like to see some FBS games against the Mid American Conference and also some of the other conferences that are not the big 5. Go take a check home and a win. Back to the Big Sky. I like playing games against the conference just not every single non conference FCS scholarship game against them. There needs to at least be some variety. Just spread the wings a little is all I ask. |
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Post by fightsd on Sept 30, 2015 6:50:33 GMT -6
You want to know why we play more teams from out west in non-conference action (Big Sky teams)? Because our alumni base is shifted more to the west than it is to the south or east. That and we have a decent alumni base out in Rapid City which is a jumping off point for all teams to the west such as Montana, UNC, etc. Would not be surprised to see Wyoming on the schedule someday in the near future. We're bringing the football team to our alumni, simple as that. I think Wyoming would be a very good game to schedule. I would like to see USD schedule more FBS teams that they would have a reasonable chance to beat instead of just scheduling games purely on name recognition. I would like to see some FBS games against the Mid American Conference and also some of the other conferences that are not the big 5. Go take a check home and a win. Back to the Big Sky. I like playing games against the conference just not every single non conference FCS scholarship game against them. There needs to at least be some variety. Just spread the wings a little is all I ask. Fire Herbster? |
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Post by yoteforever on Sept 30, 2015 7:08:44 GMT -6
You want to know why we play more teams from out west in non-conference action (Big Sky teams)? Because our alumni base is shifted more to the west than it is to the south or east. That and we have a decent alumni base out in Rapid City which is a jumping off point for all teams to the west such as Montana, UNC, etc. Would not be surprised to see Wyoming on the schedule someday in the near future. We're bringing the football team to our alumni, simple as that. I think Wyoming would be a very good game to schedule. I would like to see USD schedule more FBS teams that they would have a reasonable chance to beat instead of just scheduling games purely on name recognition. I would like to see some FBS games against the Mid American Conference and also some of the other conferences that are not the big 5. Go take a check home and a win. Back to the Big Sky. I like playing games against the conference just not every single non conference FCS scholarship game against them. There needs to at least be some variety. Just spread the wings a little is all I ask. I understand the appeal of playing teams we have no history with, but as one poster stated, the alumni base is much stronger west than east, so the Big Sky is a natural. The second reason for scheduling Big Sky is strength of scheduling consideration when playoff time comes, and choosing teams that have played tougher schedules if it comes down to that. That's why the Big Sky now wants to schedule Valley teams, where as 5 years ago, they had an arrogant attitude of supremacy. They no longer are the "big man on campus". I also think it would be fun to play New Hampshire or Maine, but other than them being a new face, there's no reason to do it. The other consideration of who you schedule is a potential recruiting base. My guess is, and I could be wrong, is that we don't go east of Chicago. We have had a long success of recruiting Colorado, and hopefully that will continue. Regarding the comment of playing smaller FBS teams, I get the reason for the post, but you have to understand the financial ramifications of doing so. When you play a power 5 league team, you are going to get between $400,000-600,000 to play that game. Then, if it's not like Kansas State, Iowa State, or Minnesota, you have to charter. Wyoming in this example would be a charter. When you charter non conference, not only do you take the team and coaches, but also a ton of support staff ( sort of a reward for their efforts ), cheerleaders, press, etc. Between the charter and the motel rooms, busses to haul everyone, food on the road, you are most likely looking at $125,000 to fund the trip. That leaves $275,000-475,000 for operations. That's a significant portion of your budget. I'm guessing that Wyoming would pay around $150,000-200,000 but no more. I get that number from the mid major AD's I have talked to, so after travel expenses, you are lucky to break even. I may be wrong, but I think that's the whole intent of playing the big boys, and dodging the others. Say you play Wyoming and win, other than the locals, no one will know it. However, if you beat Minnesota, or as SDSU did in beating a weak Kansas team, you do get a little national notoriety. With the Big Ten commissioner basically telling his teams no one will play FCS schools anymore, due to strength of scheduling issues, and other Power 5 conferences follow suit, then you have to make a decision as the AD, do I play a Northern Illinois or Kent State type of team, or do I schedule a home and home against someone like Northern Colorado? If all the Power 5 leagues then ban FCS teams, then what may happen is those FBS schools like I just mentioned might up their ante go get FCS schools to play them, but for right now, they can't compete financially against the big boys. So if you are the AD of USD, my guess is he uses the guaranty of the Power 5 schools and some off he remaining money leftover from that game to pay a team like Drake to come to Vermillion to play the Coyotes. My guess is that costs around $50,000. So here's my parting shot. If, and right now this is not a given, but IF everyone would buy season tickets, and sell out each and every game, we could do more of the Wyomings and less of the Oregons, but not everyone, including a few on here, will buy season tickets. Hint/hint |
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Post by yoteforever on Sept 30, 2015 7:14:02 GMT -6
I think Wyoming would be a very good game to schedule. I would like to see USD schedule more FBS teams that they would have a reasonable chance to beat instead of just scheduling games purely on name recognition. I would like to see some FBS games against the Mid American Conference and also some of the other conferences that are not the big 5. Go take a check home and a win. Back to the Big Sky. I like playing games against the conference just not every single non conference FCS scholarship game against them. There needs to at least be some variety. Just spread the wings a little is alld I ask. Fire Herbster? Oh yeah...he's gone. |
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Post by Yote 53 on Sept 30, 2015 8:27:30 GMT -6
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Post by jackl on Sept 30, 2015 13:31:29 GMT -6
I think Wyoming would be a very good game to schedule. I would like to see USD schedule more FBS teams that they would have a reasonable chance to beat instead of just scheduling games purely on name recognition. I would like to see some FBS games against the Mid American Conference and also some of the other conferences that are not the big 5. Go take a check home and a win. Back to the Big Sky. I like playing games against the conference just not every single non conference FCS scholarship game against them. There needs to at least be some variety. Just spread the wings a little is all I ask. I understand the appeal of playing teams we have no history with, but as one poster stated, the alumni base is much stronger west than east, so the Big Sky is a natural. The second reason for scheduling Big Sky is strength of scheduling consideration when playoff time comes, and choosing teams that have played tougher schedules if it comes down to that. That's why the Big Sky now wants to schedule Valley teams, where as 5 years ago, they had an arrogant attitude of supremacy. They no longer are the "big man on campus". I also think it would be fun to play New Hampshire or Maine, but other than them being a new face, there's no reason to do it. The other consideration of who you schedule is a potential recruiting base. My guess is, and I could be wrong, is that we don't go east of Chicago. We have had a long success of recruiting Colorado, and hopefully that will continue. Regarding the comment of playing smaller FBS teams, I get the reason for the post, but you have to understand the financial ramifications of doing so. When you play a power 5 league team, you are going to get between $400,000-600,000 to play that game. Then, if it's not like Kansas State, Iowa State, or Minnesota, you have to charter. Wyoming in this example would be a charter. When you charter non conference, not only do you take the team and coaches, but also a ton of support staff ( sort of a reward for their efforts ), cheerleaders, press, etc. Between the charter and the motel rooms, busses to haul everyone, food on the road, you are most likely looking at $125,000 to fund the trip. That leaves $275,000-475,000 for operations. That's a significant portion of your budget. I'm guessing that Wyoming would pay around $150,000-200,000 but no more. I get that number from the mid major AD's I have talked to, so after travel expenses, you are lucky to break even. I may be wrong, but I think that's the whole intent of playing the big boys, and dodging the others. Say you play Wyoming and win, other than the locals, no one will know it. However, if you beat Minnesota, or as SDSU did in beating a weak Kansas team, you do get a little national notoriety. With the Big Ten commissioner basically telling his teams no one will play FCS schools anymore, due to strength of scheduling issues, and other Power 5 conferences follow suit, then you have to make a decision as the AD, do I play a Northern Illinois or Kent State type of team, or do I schedule a home and home against someone like Northern Colorado? If all the Power 5 leagues then ban FCS teams, then what may happen is those FBS schools like I just mentioned might up their ante go get FCS schools to play them, but for right now, they can't compete financially against the big boys. So if you are the AD of USD, my guess is he uses the guaranty of the Power 5 schools and some off he remaining money leftover from that game to pay a team like Drake to come to Vermillion to play the Coyotes. My guess is that costs around $50,000. So here's my parting shot. If, and right now this is not a given, but IF everyone would buy season tickets, and sell out each and every game, we could do more of the Wyomings and less of the Oregons, but not everyone, including a few on here, will buy season tickets. Hint/hint Pfft...just take 3 or 4 $mil out of your bloated endowment fund and pay a P5 school to come play in the danger dome every year  |
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Post by coyote70 on Oct 8, 2015 20:28:44 GMT -6
Regarding the 2016/17 MVFC schedule, it appears the Coyotes will not be playing Mo State. I can understand us not playing Indie St. the past two years but not playing MS the next two years raises some questions. I would think the three westernmost schools in the conference would rotate every two years with the three easternmost teams (probably Youngstown, Ind. St. and possibly So Illinois).
If the current policy (?) stays the course I can see down the road we may not be playing NDS, SDS and UNI every year.
Does anyone know what's going on? I'm sure the Conference has a good reason for scheduling the way they do.
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Post by usdguy99 on Nov 28, 2015 11:52:41 GMT -6
www.goyotes.com/news/2015/11/28/FB_1128153131.aspxCal cancels the game with the Yotes next season as they will be playing in Australia. I think somebody had thought this might happen in an earlier post. I have all confidence in Herbster to find us a quality opponent.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 28, 2015 12:27:13 GMT -6
Cal playing Hawaii in Australia, because they are students first then football players...
I assume that Cal still has to pay some of the bill? That 550k check was a big one. I'll be pretty ticked off if there was nothing in place to penalize Cal for backing out and we can't find another FBS team to write us a check.
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Post by usdguy99 on Nov 28, 2015 12:41:02 GMT -6
Most game contracts have a clause that will result in some sort of compensation for a cancellation. I don't know how updated this website is www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/ncaa-football-schedules.php but if you look at the conferences that still schedule FCS opponents and then go in and look at each school's schedule...we don't have many options if we want a FBS opponent. A couple that caught my eye were Wake Forest, Tulane, Central Florida, Marshall or UNLV. Again, these schools might have already scheduled somebody for Sept 3rd. I know the Big Ten doesn't allow and/or frowns on FCS opponents, but Hawaii is their opponent on Sept 3rd...wishful thinking. |
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