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Post by leatherneckcountry on Sept 30, 2017 7:35:43 GMT -6
And feel it is necessary to tell the world where the team is staying because? ? Who could find them in Davenport? Who'd even want to look for them in Davenport? I give USD credit it takes some serious stones to stay in Davenport.
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Post by leatherneckcountry on Sept 30, 2017 6:34:37 GMT -6
Macomb doesn't have a Holiday Inn Express or something similar? Yes they do but I remember when the Rabbits came here 2 yrs ago they flew into peoria and stayed there and were late for the game cause its was the last game of the season and it was icy and about -10 out.
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Post by leatherneckcountry on Sept 28, 2017 4:07:24 GMT -6
One thing I have noticed is that many of the Western Illinois fans on this board or AGS always shoot down any advantage USD may have in the game and prop up any advantage they may have. On a neutral field these teams look very even right now but what I don't understand is the whole motivation angle. Most Necks fans say they have the intangibles but last time USD played a revenge game was last time they took the field. I already forgot how that one went. One factor that I see many opposing fans making about the Coyotes that just hasn't held any water so far is that they all think they have a better defense then SD. Last year "yes", so far this year it has been a resounding "no". Will that hold true against WIU? Who knows but I don't think anyone should assume they have an advantage on the D end just yet until it has been proven true. Another misnomer is about the strength of schedule being weaker for the Coyotes but WIU's opponents records haven't exactly been something to write home about. One factor that has been true for the most part over the last year in games is that USD gets out to a fast starts. Last year they were blowing those leads. So far this year they have been doing a better job in managing those leads. If the Coyotes get out early again both teams know what happened last year with the come back. That is something Western can draw from but that is something that the Coyotes will be very motivated from. It is still early in the season for both teams but A's go out to both so far. I don't know the specifics about Western but if the Coyotes can just draw even at the LOS with WIU I like the skilled position players that the Yotes can throw out. I am sure Western has that too but as I said if the Coyotes can hold the LOS to a draw I like the Coyotes because of Streveler, the recievers and the secondary which I think are big strengths of this Coyote team. One factor that I also think needs to be brought up is not just that the Coyotes didn't only just beat the #10 team in the country (although that was obviously an over rated ranking) but they smashed them. I don't really care much what happened after halftime in that game but what stands out to me is that when both team's spirits were high and UND's confidence high prior to them being morally defeated USD put up 400 yards on them at half time. The half where the game was still in the balance and the half that UND was a better team then they are today. I think for the most part USD's defense has definitely played up to their full capability but I still don't think the offense has played their best game yet. Don't get me wrong they have played well just not full cylinders well. I think there is still room for improvement yet. Another thing I have failed to hear mentioned is that the Coyotes have double the time to get ready for this game then does WIU. I think that factor evens out the home field advantage factor that WIU has. I don't know about in college but in the NFL a team coming off a bye week generally does pretty good after that bye. Most people expect a really good game. If one team wins this by 2 or more touchdowns then that team will be one to seriously be reckoned with going forward. If you consider just the overall impressiveness of both team not factoring in any pre-season biases these two teams legitimately might both be top 5 teams. It's almost unfair that both have to play each other because a damn good team is going to lose this football game. Of course WIU fans are going to talk about the areas were they have the advantages just like thats what USD fans do. Last time WIU played a revenge game they won by 52 pts as far as strength of schedule neither team has played anyone who is going to light the world on fire. I personally think these are the 3rd and 4th best team behind NDSU and SDSU but possibly 2nd and 3rd this week will tell me a lot about the valley and if I'm right about a team like YSU who I think is way overrated
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Post by leatherneckcountry on Sept 27, 2017 21:20:44 GMT -6
Hey! Finally got someone else open to New Mexico State! No one else here seems to be on board with that idea. They'd raise the level of competition in the Summit. I would like the idea of New Mexico State about a thousand times better then that little metro Kansas City University. I just want the core 4 in the Dakota's to make moves that benefit them as a core more so then just appeasing what the Summit League Commissioner's Office wants. The Summit League itself doesn't seem to be a brand that wants to expand with like schools to the Dak 4. I want football schools in the Summit not wannabe schools that just want a home for basketball without much other effort to their athletic programs. To me quality of program trumps location of program. Add New Mexico St then after add stony Brook travel in the conference is all ready to much almost as bad as when we had Southern Utah and Centenary
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Post by leatherneckcountry on Sept 27, 2017 21:06:18 GMT -6
For any Western Illinois fans has Bob Nielson always run a no huddle hurry up offense during his tenure in Macomb or did he switch up his offense depending on his personnel. I seem to remember Western running a power set when they had that really good big back a couple of years ago. Just curious because it seems like he is a real adaptable coach. I don't really remember him running much other than the no huddle (my memory isn't great though). It's possible they did something different every now and then, but for the most part, they'd have a plan, get set, look to the sideline for changes, then run it. Normally they'd end up using the full play clock to get going (would often lead to delay of game penalties), but every now and then they'd speed it up and move down the field pretty quickly if they needed to. The RB you're thinking of was Nikko Watson, I believe: goleathernecks.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=14199&path=footballPretty sure he always ran a no huddle but it was at a little slow pace with Nikko
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Post by leatherneckcountry on Sept 27, 2017 17:11:42 GMT -6
I believe Western Ill. runs a fast paced offense and has a small roster. I feel with the depth we have the Yotes can play small or big and have a pretty dang good squad on the floor. I can see them finishing anywhere from 1-4 and have a good shot at winning the SLT. I am actually surprised Zimmer did not rank State #1 will Miller returning. Yeah WIU is anything but a big roster a lot of similar size players who are really good shooters and really athletic.
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Post by leatherneckcountry on Sept 26, 2017 21:21:18 GMT -6
As great as that sounds UNI and IL ST would never go for that they think that there above us. My dealings with UNI fans online aligns with that, and I'll have to take your word for Illinois State. We are just not remotely in their league. Loyola though! Loyola doesn't have football but outside of that i think they would be a great fit in my opinion the MVC isn't really all that much better than the summit.
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Post by leatherneckcountry on Sept 26, 2017 17:55:56 GMT -6
I've been telling people all off season that i believe this is the year the summit gets 2 teams into the tournament UNO scares me the most outside of the 2 south dakota schools they nearly beat WIU twice last year I actually have the Jacks winning then WIU my one concern with WIU is if we have an off night from the outside.
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Post by leatherneckcountry on Sept 26, 2017 17:43:29 GMT -6
I agree with this 100%,I've thought the same thing.Keep growing and strive to be all you can,some schools might find the move difficult financially though.Seems to me,all would benefit with such a move. I've stated it before, but will reiterate my pipe dream, that the optimal solution would be one all-sports conference of football playing MVC schools and the Dakotas+WIU (if they survive). The private schools bring little to the MVC, and the same can be said of the non-Dakota schools in the Summit. USD, SDSU, UND, NDSU, UNI, WIU, SIU, Illinois State, Indiana State. That's a conference of like-minded peers that play all sports. Drake, Evansville, Bradley, Loyola, and any private MVC school I'm forgetting can beat it. Also Missouri State. Pipe dream though. As much as the conference would make sense it just ain't happening. As great as that sounds UNI and IL ST would never go for that they think that there above us.
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Post by leatherneckcountry on Sept 25, 2017 15:32:46 GMT -6
1) NDSU 2) SDSU 3) USD 4) WIU 5) ISU 6) YSU 7) SIU 8) UNI 9) Ind. St. 10) MSU I don't think YSU is as good as people give them credit. I think WIU is better than expected. I think NDSU is playing well. I question how SDSU has performed thus far, but the Montana State win looks better this week than it did last week. Also, our win over UND has lost some luster. I may be giving USD the old homer boost, but everything I have seen thus far gives me high hopes. A little part of me thinks WIU may be in the running for the 1-2 spot. Say what you want about Coastal, but that doesn't diminish the fact that Sean McGuire went 17-19 on Saturday. The balanced attach of the WIU offense will give our defense fits. Our D-Ends will need to apply consistent pressure on McGuire. When reviewing our stats, the most glaring weakness on paper, thus far, is special teams; namely the return game and kick coverage. Finally someone who agrees with me i said at the beginning of the season people were giving YSU to much credit and from what I've seen they've done nothing to change my mind. NDSU clear #1 SDSU WIU USD ISU SIU YSU UNI IND St MSU
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Post by leatherneckcountry on Sept 23, 2017 19:59:46 GMT -6
Western put on a good show today at coastal. I watched about half of it I suppose. The thing I took away was I was pretty impressed with their OL play. I don't know how good coastal is on defense but the necks looked pretty efficient in O today Yeah coach Nielsen and staff did a great job of building up the line and Fisher and them have continued to build on that a veteran group with lots of experience.
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Post by leatherneckcountry on Sept 23, 2017 19:41:59 GMT -6
Impressive game by the guys today but it means nothing if they don't go out and play well in conference look forward to next week i think it will both teams toughest game they have played this year.
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Post by leatherneckcountry on Sept 23, 2017 8:05:43 GMT -6
Last year the WIU vs USD game in Vermillion was very close. What are the biggest improvements in WIU's play this year versus last year? Looking forward to watching WIU take on Coastal Carolina today. Rooting for the Leathernecks today. Also rooting for North Dakota and Bowling Green. Will be very interested to see how UND responds today playing Montana State. We are actually a lot different than last year we are a much more physical team on offense defensively we are much improved switched to the 3-4 and are DB's have been much better.
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Post by leatherneckcountry on Sept 23, 2017 6:39:24 GMT -6
Wow this thread is really taking a downward turn here lately. Why is this a revenge game for Western. Last year they went into Vermillion were backed into a corner took a lead pipe to the Coyotes and stole their wallet before leaving town. Isn't this supposed to be the revenge game for the Coyotes considering that the Necks revenge game was kind of last year. The schedule is tough enough and the resume is good enough where I would rather the Necks look a little more beatable coming into the game and maybe take one win off the stength of schedule to have a better chance to get a win. I don't know about anyone else but for the Coyotes sake and Coyotes sake only I want WIU to lose to Coastal Carolina because if they win it certainly would look like a daunting task to take the game from them on their field in their first home game. As far as the coaching world, unfortunately because of the actions of many, we really can't trust any. Meaning that coaches will always take the "I am happy where I am at" until the right offer comes and they are gone before the ink dries on the new contract. It's the same in the real world. If someone is looking to better themselves then more power to them. They probably aren't going to tell their boss and co workers that they are looking around. That is just the way of the world. Any recruit coming to a school cannot know for a 100% certainly that the coach will stay the entire time that they are there. I still don't think we really know if Craig Smith was prepared to leave or not. One thing that is fact is that he at least toyed a bit with Drake. Just that action alone probably indicated that if the circumstances were right for him he would have probably been gone this off season. If USD wouldn't have stepped up or Drake really threw the bank at him he could have been former Coyote coach. Just the way it is. Who knows on Neilson's tenture at USD either. What if the Coyotes go 9-2 and make the third round of the playoffs. Nielson would have done something in two short years that no one could come close to doing in Vermillion before him. He becomes desirable then next thing ya know Oregon State or UNLV are calling, he triples his salary and it's good bye USD. No one thought Smith would be as highly desirable as he ended up being and for all we know we almost lost him. Sadly this is true but don't for one minute think it's not a 2 way street universities many times are just as guilty as coach i actually think coaches leaving for conference foes happens more than many would think in fact this year coach Fisher former boss left Richmond to be the head coach at Delaware.
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Post by leatherneckcountry on Sept 22, 2017 15:59:08 GMT -6
... allegedly. I was just informed that Western Illinois hates us, and we hate them. This is news to me, but who am I to argue? So since they are a new rival (I think?), I thought we needed to generate some smack-talk. I'll go first.... um.... So... Macomb. How the hell do you pronounce it? Like, "my-comb"? Like, "gimmie back ma-comb! Ah need ta bruss mah haih!" That's all i got. /s The fact that we hate each other is news to me when it comes to football the only school I really hate is ISU and I don't hate anyone in basketball but do have a major dislike of that other South Dakota school.
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