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Post by Yotes on Mar 27, 2014 9:39:41 GMT -6
Yote 53 before you start throwing out names of possible opponents check their schedule. Drake plays Truman State on 10-6-14 and Valpo has St. Josephs. Although its not the ideal schedule, I'm pretty sure the administration would have exhausted all efforts to get a D1 counter. The most important games on our schedule imho are the Big Sky games. We need momentum going into conference schedule and having 2 weeks to prepare for Montana will help. It doesn't matter who Drake and Valpo are playing, what matters is that we play ANYONE who is D-1. The playoff committee only considers wins against D-1 teams, which gives us just 11 games (including one at Oregon) to get up to 8 wins instead of 12. If we go 8-4 this year I will put our lack of postseason play squarely on the AD. |
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Post by yotepride on Mar 27, 2014 10:28:34 GMT -6
Looks like it may have been a money issue: www.yankton.net/sports/article_924e2bf2-b494-11e3-b493-0019bb2963f4.htmlTo be honest, I would rather have seen the Yotes go on the road and play a bad D-1 counter than have a home game against WP, a non-counter. This team has a shot at the playoffs and scheduling plays a big role. I would sacrifice a bad home game (WP) for a road game that we could win (Some D1 non-scholly schoo) and count towards the playoffs. If we only win 5 games next year, getting the home game was probably the right decision. If we are on the cusp of the playoffs and miss, I will be very disappointed that we played WP. |
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Post by Yotes on Mar 27, 2014 10:46:09 GMT -6
Looks like it may have been a money issue: www.yankton.net/sports/article_924e2bf2-b494-11e3-b493-0019bb2963f4.htmlTo be honest, I would rather have seen the Yotes go on the road and play a bad D-1 counter than have a home game against WP, a non-counter. This team has a shot at the playoffs and scheduling plays a big role. I would sacrifice a bad home game (WP) for a road game that we could win (Some D1 non-scholly schoo) and count towards the playoffs. If we only win 5 games next year, getting the home game was probably the right decision. If we are on the cusp of the playoffs and miss, I will be very disappointed that we played WP. Having six home games is important to me, Herbster is right on that part, but it makes way more sense to have a road game at a D-1 school than hosting an NAIA school. This is just something that should have been resolved so long ago. Herbster cites costs as the reason for this game, that the costs get out of hand when you schedule a game just 6 months in advance. We've known for a year now that we had two open dates to fill one game, and I'm sorely disappointed that this is what we came up with. I hope the AD learns from this gaffe going forward. Making the playoffs in the MVFC is a tall order, and we need to do everything right to put ourselves in the position to qualify. |
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Post by Yote 53 on Mar 27, 2014 11:41:47 GMT -6
It's like 1...8 and yotepride and I all share a brain. We are exactly on the same page. I'd love a 6th game, but if I had to give it up so we could schedule a weaker D1 counter, I would do it. Energy and momentum generated from making the playoffs would put this football program over the top.
This is the point in the discussion where I revive my call to schedule an annual, permanent, home and home series with UND. One less thing to worry about in scheduling.
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Post by jackl on Mar 27, 2014 12:01:45 GMT -6
I would rather have Craig Smith and William Penn rather than no William Penn and no Craig Smith. Herbster might have messed this one up by settling for William Penn but I will give him a pass on this one. He may have been preoccupied with the basketball program. I can definitely understand those that are upset and go ahead and be upset because it makes for a much more interesting message board. I am still not sure the football program is moving in the right direction. Maybe moving sideways more than anything. So,you think he was distracted is the reason he scheduled a NAIA school? LOL |
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Post by golfingyote on Mar 28, 2014 11:46:35 GMT -6
Not to be a debby downer, but I think we are jumping the gun considerably on playoff talk and this game costing us a playoff spot. I believe we only have one open game for 2015 so maybe a home and home was not so easy to find for Herbie? There is always circumstances that the public is not aware of. Either way, Im sure he has his reasons and Im ok with our schedule. Mainly, the point I want to make is that we went 3-5 in conference last year. Before we worry so much about our out of conference schedule, we need to beat middle of the road teams in the Valley. Not getting any easier with the addition of SIU and dropping Indiana State. Just quick first glance, I like the over/under wins at 6 as of now.
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Post by Yotes on Mar 28, 2014 12:21:47 GMT -6
We have playoff potential. We absolutely do. If this kind of mishandling would have happened last year, I would have been less upset, but we are on the verge of being a playoff team and need to give our team every opportunity to make it. Had we started Earl at QB all of last season, and had we held onto very late leads against Montana and Youngstown we may have made it. Woulda, coulda, shoulda...I know, but what was proven is that we are very near reaching that playoff threshold, but the administration has made it near impossible to achieve this year with only 10 games against FCS competition.
I think we have 7 wins this year, but with a little luck could hit 8. It's too bad 8 wins wouldn't cut it with an NAIA team on the schedule.
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Post by bisoninnwmn on Apr 6, 2014 12:56:56 GMT -6
NDSU will beat ISU. The Cyclones are a mess right now. I disagree. Even a mess by FBS levels should beat a FCS team that loses about every starter. Hate to break it to ya but the Bison return 13 starters and many others in the rotation. |
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Post by yoteforever on Apr 6, 2014 14:11:16 GMT -6
I disagree. Even a mess by FBS levels should beat a FCS team that loses about every starter. Hate to break it to ya but the Bison return 13 starters and many others in the rotation. That's fine and wonderful. But you won't beat Iowa State this fall. |
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Post by yoteforever on Apr 6, 2014 14:18:34 GMT -6
Regarding our game with William and Penn, I hate it myself, but I have no idea what the options were. I would expect that they did all they could to avoid this, and if so, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. If they didn't, I am going to be pissed. Let's be honest here, it's a horrible pick. Absolutely horrible. There isn't anything good that comes out of this game. Attendance will be down because of it, and given we play in South Dakota, September is about the only month where the weather is good.
I agree the rest of the schedule is awesome. Fellas, remove WP, and that's a brutal schedule. But we are getting better, and it's doable. Yote 53 sorta makes a point, and that's every time we move forward a couple of spaces, we do something stupid that sets us back. Again, maybe this couldn't be helped, but it does make us look stupid. Truthfully, as brutal as the schedule is, I would have opted for another D-1 big boy and gotten some revenue ( if that's out there).
That's like asked all bringing in Peru State. Unacceptable.
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Post by Yote 53 on Apr 6, 2014 21:47:41 GMT -6
We would have been better off sacrificing the home game this season and offering a home/home deal with Drake. FCS counter. Reasonable travel distance for fans and team. Within recruiting area. Get something for the future, a return game. Oh, we both have an open date on 9/27. We drop WP, maybe they can drop Truman State (Sept 6). Something could be worked out.
Just throwing out ideas about how I would be working this to our advantage, or getting something out of it.
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Post by Yotes on Apr 6, 2014 22:59:00 GMT -6
We would have been better off sacrificing the home game this season and offering a home/home deal with Drake. FCS counter. Reasonable travel distance for fans and team. Within recruiting area. Get something for the future, a return game. Oh, we both have an open date on 9/27. We drop WP, maybe they can drop Truman State (Sept 6). Something could be worked out. Just throwing out ideas about how I would be working this to our advantage, or getting something out of it. I agree that we had more options. They may not have been very attractive options, but William Penn is basically the worst possible scenario. A home-home with any D1 school would have been better, a road game at any D1 school would have been better, even if we are at Drake or something. There's no way this was the most attractive of the options available. |
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Post by Yotes on May 8, 2014 19:10:19 GMT -6
Game times set for home games:
William Penn - 2 p.m.
Northern Arizona - 2 p.m.
UNI - 3 p.m.
NDSU - 2 p.m.
Western Illinois - 4 p.m.
Illinois State - 1 p.m.
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Post by Cousin Eddie on May 12, 2014 13:02:33 GMT -6
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Post by Yotes on May 12, 2014 13:11:19 GMT -6
Just because some other teams are having to do it too doesn't excuse it. I really don't want this lesson to be learned the hard way when we fall one qualifying win short of a playoff berth, like State may this year.
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