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Post by fightsd on Sept 16, 2015 9:03:19 GMT -6
Off topic, but another series I just heard about yesterday is YSU - Nebraska. They are playing in Lincoln next year or the year after I believe, then in Youngstown in 2020. Why in the hell would Nebraska agree to play them at their place? Nothing really to gain there except maybe making Pelini look stupid.
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Post by Yote 53 on Sept 16, 2015 9:10:57 GMT -6
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Post by GoYotes on Sept 16, 2015 9:14:18 GMT -6
Here is the SB Nation Article that mentions the home and home arrangement between the Huskers and Penguins. By the way, the article is dated April 1, 2015.
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Post by fightsd on Sept 16, 2015 10:13:58 GMT -6
Thanks guys. I'm the jackass of the day.
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Post by Yotes on Sept 16, 2015 10:18:50 GMT -6
It's so incredibly rare that an FBS school would play at an FCS school. The only recent example I can think of is Army at Yale last year.
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Post by yote14 on Sept 16, 2015 12:34:21 GMT -6
I did not know the UND/NDSU series involved 2 games in Fargo and no return trip to Grand Forks. I have a lot more respect for UND for accepting that. I know schedules are set up a long way in the future at times but you have the possibility of traveling a couple hours for an FCS opponent every year and you are not making it happen why? Get over yourself. Yes, you made the move to D1 first but this is a must schedule game every year for these 2 schools. Fargo is in the middle of nowhere with very few FCS schools even somewhat close to them outside the Valley. UND by far has the upper hand in the head to head series between those 2. So the Bison's recent dominance of FCS should not outweigh that the series has always been a good one and one UND has the upper hand in. Move heaven and earth to get this annual game back.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Sept 16, 2015 18:12:59 GMT -6
It will be fun to see regardless of who wins. Still can't believe UND agreed to go there twice with no return trip. Only way they can salvage dignity there is if they can at least win one of the games. This game is huge for UND and the future of that series. They have one more game scheduled with them four years from now. Lose badly in embarassing fashion this weekend and they will cement themselves clearly as inferior to NDSU. Nobody will be clamoring for this to be an annual series like they are now. Lose a tight classic game, or even pull off the upset, and the Bison may be cancelling contracts in order to get them on the schedule in less than 4 years. I find it fascinating to follow the goings on up north. I look at the USD/SDSU relationship and see this year also as a must win for the Coyotes. We have to stem the tide of SDSU dominance in our series. With them building that new football facility I feel them pulling away again. We need to win this game now, the timing is important, and then go on a Dome renovation remodeling spree of out own to keep pace. The parallels between these Dakota rivalries is interesting. I don't think anyone should be calling the SDSU game a must win especially since it will likely be a loss. If it is a must win than there needs to be real consequences for a loss which there really are not so I don't consider it a must win. I wish there would be major consequences for a loss to a rival but that has not been the tone around Coyote Nation. Actually the only consequences are a few fans saying "awww shucks" and a few other saying "we will get them next time" Unfortunately the next time ends up being the same old story and repeat cycle every year. It is scarey how lopsided this rivalry has become and it has been not just for years but decades now. SDSU fans have every right not to call the game against USD a rival in the sport of football since it has been so one sided. The game against Davis was nice but it is not enough to be assuming the Yotes are turning any corners just yet. They need to prove for at least one full conference season that they are for real. Until then the Yotes are not for real and should not be considered for real until that happens.
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Post by fargobison on Sept 16, 2015 20:17:47 GMT -6
I did not know the UND/NDSU series involved 2 games in Fargo and no return trip to Grand Forks. I have a lot more respect for UND for accepting that. I know schedules are set up a long way in the future at times but you have the possibility of traveling a couple hours for an FCS opponent every year and you are not making it happen why? Get over yourself. Yes, you made the move to D1 first but this is a must schedule game every year for these 2 schools. Fargo is in the middle of nowhere with very few FCS schools even somewhat close to them outside the Valley. UND by far has the upper hand in the head to head series between those 2. So the Bison's recent dominance of FCS should not outweigh that the series has always been a good one and one UND has the upper hand in. Move heaven and earth to get this annual game back. If UND wants to play us every year they can join the MVFC, otherwise they can pound sand. I happen to like playing FCS schools like Montana, EWU, SHSU and having FBS games. With an annual UND game our schedule revolves around that game. If the FCS had a 12 game schedule it would be manageable but that isn't the case. To play UND we need to sacrifice something. For a game that gives us nothing then we already get. UND nets us no new revenue or exposure, we don't need the game that badly. Honestly UND had their chance to have that arrangement and refused.
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Post by yoteforever on Sept 16, 2015 22:37:01 GMT -6
This game is huge for UND and the future of that series. They have one more game scheduled with them four years from now. Lose badly in embarassing fashion this weekend and they will cement themselves clearly as inferior to NDSU. Nobody will be clamoring for this to be an annual series like they are now. Lose a tight classic game, or even pull off the upset, and the Bison may be cancelling contracts in order to get them on the schedule in less than 4 years. I find it fascinating to follow the goings on up north. I look at the USD/SDSU relationship and see this year also as a must win for the Coyotes. We have to stem the tide of SDSU dominance in our series. With them building that new football facility I feel them pulling away again. We need to win this game now, the timing is important, and then go on a Dome renovation remodeling spree of out own to keep pace. The parallels between these Dakota rivalries is interesting. I don't think anyone should be calling the SDSU game a must win especially since it will likely be a loss. If it is a must win than there needs to be real consequences for a loss which there really are not so I don't consider it a must win. I wish there would be major consequences for a loss to a rival but that has not been the tone around Coyote Nation. Actually the only consequences are a few fans saying "awww shucks" and a few other saying "we will get them next time" Unfortunately the next time ends up being the same old story and repeat cycle every year. It is scarey how lopsided this rivalry has become and it has been not just for years but decades now. SDSU fans have every right not to call the game against USD a rival in the sport of football since it has been so one sided. The game against Davis was nice but it is not enough to be assuming the Yotes are turning any corners just yet. They need to prove for at least one full conference season that they are for real. Until then the Yotes are not for real and should not be considered for real until that happens. I have a problem and it bothers me I do. The problem is against my own better judgement, you still get under my skin. Your post is as welcome to many on here as would be an apology to the Lincoln family from John Wilkes Booth. I think your name on here should not be coyotefan but rather coyoteslayer. I have read every post I think you've made and I never see a solution to the problem ( other than always fire the coaches ) but only critique and condemnation. I hate being redundant but I feel I have to be in this case. I specifically remember you leading a charge to fire Ed Meierkort towards the end of his tenure, and if you remember, the Coyotes were highly successful during his stint. The one albatross around his teams neck was being able to finish and win games on the road. Up until his firing, I stood behind him, not because I was a "beer drinking crony" as you called me, but rather because USD has never seen a wealth of talent walk through this program before, and haven't seen up to now. Now Coach Mieierkort was let go for other reasons than losing on the road, but his teams beat Minnesota, Eastern Washington, North Dakota, etc. It was at this point I warned you the program was going to go backwards. The good Lord knows I hoped I was wrong making that statement, but I felt strong about it. You can't fire success, for whatever reasons, without being repercussions. The truth of the matter is USD over a long period of time hasn't been significant a lions share of the time. Coach Salem came in '66 and built the Coyotes into winners. The won a few league titles. Cooper won a title in '78. Then Coach Triplet took us through a successful period, in fact played for a national championship during his era. Then came the coaching carasol (sp?). The results of that have been failure after failure. You just can't go through coaches without impacting how others view you. And in my opinion, that's where we are at right now. I happen to think David Sayler was a good AD in the brief period he was here, but that move at that point in time was a killer. But as I understand it, Ed Meierkort was let go for other reasons rather than losing games on the road, but the manner in which it happened is what crucified how we are seen on the football stage. Bringing in Coach Glenn was strategically a good move, and was precisely what we needed to save face. In addition to that, there isn't anyone in the world that has more pride in bring a Coyote than Joe Glenn, but the fact remains he's had some difficulty recruiting because neighboring coaches simply use our colored past as a recruiting tool against us. Football, unlike basketball, is not a quick fix sport. There are 25 kids that start, and 25 backing them up, and that adds up to 50. THAT TAKES TIME. Now you once again ring the negative bell. In fact you are so negative, that you can't see the forest through the trees. I was at Kansas State, I watched the UC-Davis on tape, and I will tell you we have made significant strides defensively. I can tell you I played on a championship team that relied on its defense to win games, so it can happen. I really don't have a feel yet as to what our upside is but I will tell you without reserve that we are better, much better, than we were last year. Will that translate into more wins? I don't know yet, I really don't. But I will tell you I can build a case where we beat Drake, take a bye week to prepare for Youngstown and win that game, and head to McComb to get Western Illinois. Then comes the gauntlet of powerhouse teams of the MVC. But even as good as they are, I do believe there isn't a home game we can't win if we stay healthy. I can also build a case where we aren't that successful in terms of wins and losses. So at the end of the day I simply ask you to stay away from Vermillion, because your negative energy drains everyone around you. Trust me on this...USD football ( or basketball or volleyball or soccer or softball ) doesn't need your kind to be fans. I played and graduated for and from USD, and my wife and I support both financially and through personal support of attendance regardless of the wins or losses. I don't live in South Dakota, but I'm there every damn week they are home, and most games on the road. The day I die, I hope my tombstone says...." He was a good husband and father, but he was a one hell of a Coyote" I believe in USD, and this group of guys deserve our unwaivering support. If we lose, will I be disappointed if we lose? Heck yes. But rather than criticize and shoot my mouth off, I will strive to find a solution. So to all the other fans on here that have tired their eyes reading this long post, I apologize. To those that continuously find fault, not remedy, you may have to wait a year or two before we start winning then you can jump on the bandwagon like CoyoteFan and pretend you've been there from day 1. One last thing....GO YOTES
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Sept 17, 2015 8:11:18 GMT -6
I don't think anyone should be calling the SDSU game a must win especially since it will likely be a loss. If it is a must win than there needs to be real consequences for a loss which there really are not so I don't consider it a must win. I wish there would be major consequences for a loss to a rival but that has not been the tone around Coyote Nation. Actually the only consequences are a few fans saying "awww shucks" and a few other saying "we will get them next time" Unfortunately the next time ends up being the same old story and repeat cycle every year. It is scarey how lopsided this rivalry has become and it has been not just for years but decades now. SDSU fans have every right not to call the game against USD a rival in the sport of football since it has been so one sided. The game against Davis was nice but it is not enough to be assuming the Yotes are turning any corners just yet. They need to prove for at least one full conference season that they are for real. Until then the Yotes are not for real and should not be considered for real until that happens. I have a problem and it bothers me I do. The problem is against my own better judgement, you still get under my skin. Your post is as welcome to many on here as would be an apology to the Lincoln family from John Wilkes Booth. I think your name on here should not be coyotefan but rather coyoteslayer. I have read every post I think you've made and I never see a solution to the problem ( other than always fire the coaches ) but only critique and condemnation. I hate being redundant but I feel I have to be in this case. I specifically remember you leading a charge to fire Ed Meierkort towards the end of his tenure, and if you remember, the Coyotes were highly successful during his stint. The one albatross around his teams neck was being able to finish and win games on the road. Up until his firing, I stood behind him, not because I was a "beer drinking crony" as you called me, but rather because USD has never seen a wealth of talent walk through this program before, and haven't seen up to now. Now Coach Mieierkort was let go for other reasons than losing on the road, but his teams beat Minnesota, Eastern Washington, North Dakota, etc. It was at this point I warned you the program was going to go backwards. The good Lord knows I hoped I was wrong making that statement, but I felt strong about it. You can't fire success, for whatever reasons, without being repercussions. The truth of the matter is USD over a long period of time hasn't been significant a lions share of the time. Coach Salem came in '66 and built the Coyotes into winners. The won a few league titles. Cooper won a title in '78. Then Coach Triplet took us through a successful period, in fact played for a national championship during his era. Then came the coaching carasol (sp?). The results of that have been failure after failure. You just can't go through coaches without impacting how others view you. And in my opinion, that's where we are at right now. I happen to think David Sayler was a good AD in the brief period he was here, but that move at that point in time was a killer. But as I understand it, Ed Meierkort was let go for other reasons rather than losing games on the road, but the manner in which it happened is what crucified how we are seen on the football stage. Bringing in Coach Glenn was strategically a good move, and was precisely what we needed to save face. In addition to that, there isn't anyone in the world that has more pride in bring a Coyote than Joe Glenn, but the fact remains he's had some difficulty recruiting because neighboring coaches simply use our colored past as a recruiting tool against us. Football, unlike basketball, is not a quick fix sport. There are 25 kids that start, and 25 backing them up, and that adds up to 50. THAT TAKES TIME. Now you once again ring the negative bell. In fact you are so negative, that you can't see the forest through the trees. I was at Kansas State, I watched the UC-Davis on tape, and I will tell you we have made significant strides defensively. I can tell you I played on a championship team that relied on its defense to win games, so it can happen. I really don't have a feel yet as to what our upside is but I will tell you without reserve that we are better, much better, than we were last year. Will that translate into more wins? I don't know yet, I really don't. But I will tell you I can build a case where we beat Drake, take a bye week to prepare for Youngstown and win that game, and head to McComb to get Western Illinois. Then comes the gauntlet of powerhouse teams of the MVC. But even as good as they are, I do believe there isn't a home game we can't win if we stay healthy. I can also build a case where we aren't that successful in terms of wins and losses. So at the end of the day I simply ask you to stay away from Vermillion, because your negative energy drains everyone around you. Trust me on this...USD football ( or basketball or volleyball or soccer or softball ) doesn't need your kind to be fans. I played and graduated for and from USD, and my wife and I support both financially and through personal support of attendance regardless of the wins or losses. I don't live in South Dakota, but I'm there every damn week they are home, and most games on the road. The day I die, I hope my tombstone says...." He was a good husband and father, but he was a one hell of a Coyote" I believe in USD, and this group of guys deserve our unwaivering support. If we lose, will I be disappointed if we lose? Heck yes. But rather than criticize and shoot my mouth off, I will strive to find a solution. So to all the other fans on here that have tired their eyes reading this long post, I apologize. To those that continuously find fault, not remedy, you may have to wait a year or two before we start winning then you can jump on the bandwagon like CoyoteFan and pretend you've been there from day 1. One last thing....GO YOTES Damnit, if that wasn't one of the best posts I have read in a REALLY long time. Well said. The negative energy comment cannot be overstated. I find myself guilty of this far too often. It doesn't accomplish anything. Do we have to be smoke-blowers whistling zipidy-do-da? No (and I know that isn't what you are implying either), but having a positive outlook and searching for realistic solutions is a way to help push this thing forward. This is one thing that the folks from both of the state schools up north have generally been good about. Positive energy is infectious and conducive to success. Keep fighting the good fight, yoteforever!
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Sept 17, 2015 8:14:31 GMT -6
But I will tell you I can build a case where we beat Drake, take a bye week to prepare for Youngstown and win that game, and head to McComb to get Western Illinois. Then comes the gauntlet of powerhouse teams of the MVC. But even as good as they are, I do believe there isn't a home game we can't win if we stay healthy. Also, I find nothing about this scenario to be unrealistic. Probable? I am not ready to say that. Possible? Most definitely.
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Post by Yotes on Sept 17, 2015 8:22:52 GMT -6
I was going over playoff scenarios in my head earlier this week. I'll keep them to myself until we are in the midst of that four game win streak.
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Post by jackl on Sept 17, 2015 9:10:07 GMT -6
I was going over playoff scenarios in my head earlier this week. I'll keep them to myself until we are in the midst of that four game win streak. Probably i good idea...
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Post by canislatrans on Sept 17, 2015 9:27:33 GMT -6
"Keeping things to yourself" advice from a Jacks fan, really?
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Post by golfingyote on Sept 17, 2015 9:54:08 GMT -6
playoff scenarios?! lets pump the brakes! Drake this week, lets get a W!
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