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Post by nccyote on Dec 12, 2015 20:39:36 GMT -6
A.J. Blazek who is the OL coach and Running Game Coordinator (not sure if this means OC or not) is tweeting this morning like he personally isn't going anywhere. Don't know about Nielsen but indications are that Blazek wouldn't be coming with him if Nielsen did end up coming to Vermillion. Don't know if that is such great news for the Nielsen bandwagon. On a side note another interesting name for a possible OC to come with Nielsen would be Ted Schlafke who was a hell of a quarterback with Minnesota-Duluth when they won the National Title in 2008. He shredded up the Coyotes a bit when they played against him. It looks like he has much to do with the passing offense that Western Illinois has. I sure hope at this point that Herbster has a nice list of secondary candidates because he may need it. [bth Why would anyone on there staff tweet or put anything on social media indicating whether or not they are leaving when the HC hasn't even made a decision yet. Of course Blazek wouldn't tweet anything but pro WIU stuff. He still works for them and is recruiting for them and if he said anything negative or hinted towards that he may be leaving that would be 1. Unprofessional and 2. Kill any recruiting that he has spent the last year working on. Nielson may not leave, but I don't think looking at his assistant coaches' twitter account is a credible clue on his decision whatsoever. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Dec 13, 2015 3:04:48 GMT -6
Of course he wouldn't tweet that he was leaving but could tweet if he had an indication to stay regardless of whether Nielsen was staying or leaving or undecided. If he was leaning towards leaving he simply wouldn't communicate anything. I am just simply stating by the way he tweeted it indicates that he is probably more likely to stay put. Of course nothing is set in stone either way.
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Post by usdgc on Dec 13, 2015 11:42:33 GMT -6
I really believe your guy currently offices on the corners of Cretin and Summit Avenues in St. Paul, MN.
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Post by Yotes on Dec 13, 2015 12:57:35 GMT -6
I really believe your guy currently offices on the corners of Cretin and Summit Avenues in St. Paul, MN. If true he is booked through at least Friday. What's the history of D3 coaches moving up look like? The only one I can think of is Lance Leipold moving from UW-Whitewater to Buffalo, but he is only through one season so it's too soon to judge. There is just an ocean between D3 and D1 and seems like an incredibly risky move. |
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Post by nccyote on Dec 13, 2015 16:29:16 GMT -6
My bet is Neilson turns it down...I have heard rumblings from some who think he may be in line for the SIU job. If DeBoer is the next in line I wouldn't be surprised but would ask if the search firm was really necessary. He was one of the 1st guys mentioned by this board and you would think that the administration would have thought of him too. Don't know how much the search firm was needed if he is he next guy in line.
I think if Neilson was going to accept this job he would have done so by now.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Dec 13, 2015 16:43:49 GMT -6
If I am the Coyotes I give him until tomorrow to make a decision and I move on. The last thing the Coyotes need to do is try to convince someone to want to run the program that is not sure if he wants to be here.
Deboer would be a good candidate. He dominated in his only head coaching job and has experience at not only FCS but also FBS.
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Post by obc on Dec 13, 2015 17:20:07 GMT -6
I hope DeBoer is not the choice after talking to three former USF players. They attributed their success to the momentum Bob Young created and felt the best coach on the staff when DeBoer was HC was the DC Chuck Morrell. They described him as the type of coach that whined a lot at the players and did not command their respect. Their parting comment to me was "I wouldn't be excited about that hire if I was you." Admittedly three people is a small sample size, but knowing these players and the roles they played on their particular championship team, gives me concern. If named coach, I will hope their assessment was wrong.
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Post by Yotes on Dec 13, 2015 17:41:02 GMT -6
DeBoer is not a guy I would be at all excited about. He had immense success at USF but he also took over what was already a highly successful program and his experience as an OC at D1 does nothing to impress me. I think I'd rather give Wes a shot than go with DeBoer.
I will also say that if these are the only two external candidates we were able to identify and interview that this would be a colossal failure on behalf of our AD and the search firm. Glenn Caruso remains out there I suppose, but again what is the point of a search firm when all our candidates are names that a bunch of schmucks on a message board are able to come up with on their own?
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Post by Coyote Fan on Dec 13, 2015 17:42:10 GMT -6
I doubt Morrell was the primary reason USF had the success they had. Morrell went to Montana Tech and in 5 years there at a NAIA school he has a losing record. Compare that to DeBoer's 67-3 and decide for yourself if you trust 3 former players or if you trust the records. I think I trust 67-3 over 3 former players who might have had an agenda. Maybe DeBoer was too tough on them. USD doesn't need a Saint, they need a winner.
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Post by nccyote on Dec 13, 2015 17:42:42 GMT -6
I'm a little surprised Morrell's name hasn't come up more often during this search. Has ties not only to USF but was the DC at USD for a year before getting the HC job at Montana Tech. I have always heard really good things about him. I agree that DeBoer wouldn't excite me that much if he were the hire. I know he has unquestioned success at USF, nobody can argue that. I just feel like he was always the safety net in this search. Granted I have no clue what is happening or what has happened during this process, but from the outside I feel like it has been a matter of "Lets see who we can get, and if we can't get them we can always just offer it to DeBoer". Like someone has mentioned, we don't know how many people have been interviewed via the phone or in an airport or other neutral location, so I have my hopes that there are other options besides Neilson and DeBoer.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Dec 13, 2015 17:44:06 GMT -6
DeBoer is not a guy I would be at all excited about. He had immense success at USF but he also took over what was already a highly successful program and his experience as an OC at D1 does nothing to impress me. I think I'd rather give Wes a shot than go with DeBoer. I will also say that if these are the only two external candidates we were able to identify and interview that this would be a colossal failure on behalf of our AD and the search firm. Glenn Caruso remains out there I suppose, but again what is the point of a search firm when all our candidates are names that a bunch of schmucks on a message board are able to come up with on their own? Wes over DeBoer? Glad you are not making the decisions. |
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Post by Yotes on Dec 13, 2015 17:55:22 GMT -6
DeBoer is not a guy I would be at all excited about. He had immense success at USF but he also took over what was already a highly successful program and his experience as an OC at D1 does nothing to impress me. I think I'd rather give Wes a shot than go with DeBoer. I will also say that if these are the only two external candidates we were able to identify and interview that this would be a colossal failure on behalf of our AD and the search firm. Glenn Caruso remains out there I suppose, but again what is the point of a search firm when all our candidates are names that a bunch of schmucks on a message board are able to come up with on their own? Wes over DeBoer? Glad you are not making the decisions. Probably not as glad as everyone else is that you have no influence in the operation of the athletic department. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Dec 13, 2015 18:00:44 GMT -6
Wes over DeBoer? Glad you are not making the decisions. Probably not as glad as everyone else is that you have no influence in the operation of the athletic department. Don't put this one on me. You said you would rather have Wes than DeBoer. I would like to know one thing in his coaching career that Wes had done better than DeBoer. No one of sound mind and body would pick Wes over Kalen that cares about winning football. |
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Post by nccyote on Dec 13, 2015 18:52:20 GMT -6
Probably not as glad as everyone else is that you have no influence in the operation of the athletic department. Don't put this one on me. You said you would rather have Wes than DeBoer. I would like to know one thing in his coaching career that Wes had done better than DeBoer. No one of sound mind and body would pick Wes over Kalen that cares about winning football. I have to side with CF here. I give DeBoer a large advantage over Wesley at this point in his career. Not even close really. I probably support Wesley as much as anyone on this board and even I can see that he is not comparable with KD as a HC candidate. |
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Post by Yotes on Dec 13, 2015 19:13:27 GMT -6
The stability that we would see under Wes is of value. DeBoer brings the experience of being a head coach but I don't know that he did anything spectacular as one and his time as an OC at the D1 level looks unimpressive. Feel free to turn that statement right around on Wes and his time as OC, my point is we would be looking at two unimpressive OC's with the difference being that Wes knows this program and brings stability and DeBoer brings the experience of having managed a team before. With all the time Wes has spent with Joe Glenn he may certainly be ready to run a program (though I'd like to see him cut his teeth elsewhere before being handed the keys). I have a hard time seeing either work out, I'd just rather go with the unproven guy who would likely be here for decades if successful rather than the unproven guy who would be leaving as soon as he can.
Just for the record, my ideal candidate has proven very well that they can be a head coach at the D2 or FCS level. Neither guy fits the bill and I wouldn't be satisfied with either one. I'm hoping Nielson accepts our offer or some additional names come up.
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