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Post by Cousin Eddie on Dec 14, 2015 11:28:14 GMT -6
Herbster and Abbott get coffee:
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Dec 15, 2015 14:42:21 GMT -6
Put me in the camp that is more than confident that we will be paying our HC greater than $225K. Start a poll if you want, the O/U on HC salary will be over or under $225K. I say it will be over.
In addition, I believe that we will open the checkbook for the salaries of the ACs. The new student funds were tagged from the get-go to address staff pay. My understanding is that the plan was already to fund and pay a competitive salary to a COMPLETE football staff by next season. This will force the issue. I know Herbie will be a sound steward to the University's money, but he also knows that we can be successful and that this is his time to put a stamp on the program. Funding will not be an excuse this time, in my opinion. Bump. Sorry, I have an ego to stroke. |
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Post by yote14 on Dec 15, 2015 14:54:17 GMT -6
Its only a matter of time before a state poster makes a claim about how USD doesn't have the money to pay a coach that much when the all holy SDSU doesn't pay that much to coach nutmeg, similar to the FCOA talk. Had to stroke my ego too.
I'm glad we are making the commitment in football now similar to the other sports. Herbster is on a roll.
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Post by usdguy99 on Dec 18, 2015 14:11:07 GMT -6
I believe Creehan's name was brought up in one of these threads but I couldn't remember which one. Here is some info from footballscoop about 2 of our former coaches as finalists for a new HC position.
Edinboro (D-II – PA): We’ve seen a report that the following coaches are candidates for the head coaching vacancy at Edinboro, and that interviews will take place next week; Wayne Bradford (Edinboro staff member for 17 years, currently defensive coordinator / linebackers coach), Ron Rankin (Fairmont State LBs coach), Dennis Creehan (Alderson Broaddus head coach / athletic director), Marc Kolb (Tusculum College offensive coordinator / QBs / WRs coach), Justin Lustig (Ball State assistant head coach / special teams coordinator / RBs coach), Alvin Parker (Elizabeth City State offensive coordinator), and Blair Hrovat (former assistant at South Dakota and Indiana State).
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Post by yote on Dec 18, 2015 14:22:05 GMT -6
I believe Creehan's name was brought up in one of these threads but I couldn't remember which one. Here is some info from footballscoop about 2 of our former coaches as finalists for a new HC position. Edinboro (D-II – PA): We’ve seen a report that the following coaches are candidates for the head coaching vacancy at Edinboro, and that interviews will take place next week; Wayne Bradford (Edinboro staff member for 17 years, currently defensive coordinator / linebackers coach), Ron Rankin (Fairmont State LBs coach), Dennis Creehan (Alderson Broaddus head coach / athletic director), Marc Kolb (Tusculum College offensive coordinator / QBs / WRs coach), Justin Lustig (Ball State assistant head coach / special teams coordinator / RBs coach), Alvin Parker (Elizabeth City State offensive coordinator), and Blair Hrovat (former assistant at South Dakota and Indiana State). Actually 3 of USD's coaches. Both Rankin and Hrovat were assistants under the Creehan regime. Rankin of course succeeded Creehan as head coach at which point I believe Hrovat became OC under Rankin but I may have that wrong. |
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Post by Yote 53 on Dec 19, 2015 12:35:06 GMT -6
Yep, and then Hrovat took a head job at a D3 school in PA and took the starting USD QB with him right before fall camp started, screwing Rankin's season and costing him his job. The guy is a freaking dirtbag and I would tell him that to his face. Yeah, that's one guy I would like to fight.
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Post by obc on Dec 19, 2015 12:51:40 GMT -6
Yep, and then Hrovat took a head job at a D3 school in PA and took the starting USD QB with him right before fall camp started, screwing Rankin's season and costing him his job. The guy is a freaking dirtbag and I would tell him that to his face. Yeah, that's one guy I would like to fight. Well said and I concur! |
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Post by usdtator on Dec 17, 2019 12:56:03 GMT -6
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Post by captaincoyote on Dec 17, 2019 14:23:35 GMT -6
I was not on this site in 2015. Needless to say, I will need a minute to recover.
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Post by nccyote on Dec 18, 2019 10:04:14 GMT -6
Good for him. DeBoer has done VERY well since 2015. I feel a little better about not getting him as coach because I feel like chances are he probably would be gone by now if he had any success here. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Feb 19, 2020 6:11:04 GMT -6
Good for him. DeBoer has done VERY well since 2015. I feel a little better about not getting him as coach because I feel like chances are he probably would be gone by now if he had any success here. That makes no sense. Why would we want to settle for a mediocre coach just so he could stay longer. A program should always hire the best coach and worry about the fallout later. Look at the Women's basketball program. They have had multiple coaches leave and I would say the program is leaps and bounds better than football. If Deboer would have been hired and left after 3 or 4 years he would have left the program in better shape to not only make it easier for the next coach but also attract better candidates. The next 2 or 3 years will be mediocrity as it's best. Nielson peaked at UMD and at this point in his career with guaranteed money in hand he really has no reason to be urgent about anything. He can just lay in his hammock and collect his paychecks. He did not deserve and extension and got one anyway. |
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Post by notkiotees on Feb 19, 2020 6:23:32 GMT -6
yawn
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Post by sdyotefan on Feb 19, 2020 6:38:06 GMT -6
For newer Coyote posters--a word to the wise. For years I've blocked Coyote Fan's posts which makes for a much more informed commentary without the drivel!! And obviously he's NOT a "coyote fan"!
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Post by Yotes on Feb 19, 2020 8:10:08 GMT -6
For newer Coyote posters--a word to the wise. For years I've blocked Coyote Fan's posts which makes for a much more informed commentary without the drivel!! And obviously he's NOT a "coyote fan"! I agree with basically his entire post above, but that's a rarity and really is beside the point. It's another ill-placed tangent that one cannot engage without diving into an endless loop of irrational stances that will never be swayed with any amount of logic or reason. He views himself as the dissenting voice of reason and can't accept that others reject his maverick status - so much so that he has left this board TWICE to create his own board with "American Values". (P.S. It's ridiculous to assert that one can't express their opinion here. Go look at everything I've said about Bob since that extension.) Anyways, I also recommend the board's Ignore function to anyone who finds another user annoying. |
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Post by nccyote on Feb 19, 2020 8:36:56 GMT -6
Good for him. DeBoer has done VERY well since 2015. I feel a little better about not getting him as coach because I feel like chances are he probably would be gone by now if he had any success here. That makes no sense. Why would we want to settle for a mediocre coach just so he could stay longer. A program should always hire the best coach and worry about the fallout later. Look at the Women's basketball program. They have had multiple coaches leave and I would say the program is leaps and bounds better than football. If Deboer would have been hired and left after 3 or 4 years he would have left the program in better shape to not only make it easier for the next coach but also attract better candidates. The next 2 or 3 years will be mediocrity as it's best. Nielson peaked at UMD and at this point in his career with guaranteed money in hand he really has no reason to be urgent about anything. He can just lay in his hammock and collect his paychecks. He did not deserve and extension and got one anyway. CF jumping to conclusions again. Nowhere did I say I wanted to "settle" for "mediocrity" in any sense. DeBoer probably would have done very well here, too bad we will never know for sure. All I said is that he more than likely would not be our head football coach any longer if we had hired him due to his desire to coach at a higher level. That makes it a little easier to stomach in my personal opinion. And does anyone know for sure if he was even interested int he USD job in the 1st place? A lot of speculation and hearsay but I never saw any concrete statement from DeBoer expressing his desire to come to USD. Maybe I just missed it. When you say our basketball programs have had multiple coaches leave, you realize that each program has had exactly 3 head coaches over the last 20 years, right? Thats a revolving door right there. I also feel like changing coaches is a much larger task for a football program than it is for basketball. Connecting and maintaining relationships with current players and building a roster is much easier to accomplish wit 15 players than it is with 105. You also have to build a staff, establish a recruiting footprint, etc. Its just not really even close to being the same. Show me a football program that has had success with 5 head coaches in 10 years, I bet you can't. And don't point to NDSU because they are the biggest anomaly in sports when it comes to continued success through coaching change. I also take issue with the idea that once someone gets rewarded for success, they shut it down and put it on cruise control. This just isn't how people with competitive personalities work. You also have to figure in the new facilities( which Bob played a big role in) and recruiting when you think about the extension too. I know its hard for you to fathom that not everything in college athletics is as easy as "win all the time or you are fired", but you just keeping pounding the table about how USD fans love being mediocre and don't have a winning attitude because that seems to be working well for you. |
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