Class of 2022 Recruiting

[flagshipU]

Brooklyn Meyer of West Lyon (IA) has been offered.

    

[kiyoat]

No new news on Brooklyn (currently a Soph), but I thought I'd update the thread on her offers (per twitter)

May 2019
NDSU

July
Drake
USD

October
Nebraska
Iowa

[kiyoat]

Just an update on Brooklyn Meyer's offers and final committment:

March 2020
Iowa State

June 2020
Wisconsin

August 2020
Minnesota

October 2020
Commit to SDSU

very impressive offer list for that young lady!  The Jacks got a good one.

[kiyoat]

I feel like we are missing some offers here. Anyone can feel free to add a post if they know of offers. I don't think we have any 2022 commits yet.

[kiyoat]

2020-2021 team
lose 4 seniors(TayFred/Bonar/Duffy/Mac)
add 4 freshmen (Krull/Hansen/Watson/Mazurek)
add 1 transfer (Williston)
zero open scholarships

2021-2022 team
lose 2 seniors? (Arens/Kunzer)
return 3 fifth-year Seniors? (Sjerven/Lamb/Korngable) (extra schollies)
add 3 Freshmen (Carson/Larkins/Duffney 2021 class)
two open scholarships

2022-2023 team
lose 3 fifth-year Seniors (Sjerven/Lamb/Korngable)
return 2 fifth-year Seniors? (Sankey, Williston)
add ____ Freshmen?
two open scholarships

[kiyoat]

So I thought I'd update the scholarship situation. Even with three "fifth-year" seniors coming back (potentially), we could still potentially add a recruit or transfer, as those scholarships won't count towards the limits. I can see where they may just keep them open, though. Three reasons: they will be paying the three scholarships anyway, the team doesn't have many glaring weaknesses in 2021/22, and they might need them for the 2022 class.

My worry is that we haven't signed anyone yet in the HS class of 2022 (now Juniors). Looking at the the top 5 2022 recruits for Nebraska and Iowa, most of them have already committed somewhere. I haven't looked at Minnesota or Wisconsin, but usually that is our main recruiting area.

[kiyoat]

Bella Swedlund (Winner, SD Guard) (SD Attack) 5-9 PG

Not sure why we haven't offered her. Maybe a little undersized, but look at her offer list right now:

2019 July -Colgate
2020 June Illinois State
------------Illinois
------------Montana State
2020 July St. Thomas
------------Colorado State
------------Montana
------------Portland
2020 August Omaha
------------Eastern Mich
2020 Sept Eastern Illinois
------------Navy
2020 Oct -Toledo
2020 Nov-Lehigh
2021 Jan--GCU
2021 April Monmouth
------------St. Louis
------------Kansas
------------Cleveland St
------------Kansas City

I'll guess she continues to get Summit League offers, and ends up going to NDSU.  From there she has a great career and her best games are against the two SD schools that spurned her.....

[Coyote Fan]

From what I gather the Coyotes are a better program right now than every school on that list. Not sure about Illinois though. Maybe that is why they haven't offered.

[kiyoat]

Apr 29, 2021 1:58:38 GMT -6 Coyote Fan said:

From what I gather the Coyotes are a better program right now than every school on that list. Not sure about Illinois though. Maybe that is why they haven't offered.

I 100% agree with this, but I also think you have to look at it differently with an in-state kid.  Projections of how players perform in college are often not accurate, and I think you have to take a chance on in-state and local kids sometimes.  I get it that in a sport like BB there are only so many scholarships, and you have to get the best possible kids available.

With that many offers, including two low-level P-5 offers, that kid has to be doing something right.  I just hope they haven't closed the door on her.  At least give her a greyshirt or walk-on offer.   We don't have a single 2022 commit yet, and many of the best recruits have already verballed somewhere.  Just saying.

Danny Woodhead is a great non-basket ball analogy.  The RB was "too short" to get a Nebraska offer, so he went to Chadron State, where he destroyed all the school records and went on to play in the NFL.  Bet they wished they would have offered.  Hell, just look at AJP on the men's team.

[fightsd]

Apr 29, 2021 8:18:23 GMT -6 kiyoat said:

Apr 29, 2021 1:58:38 GMT -6 Coyote Fan said:

From what I gather the Coyotes are a better program right now than every school on that list. Not sure about Illinois though. Maybe that is why they haven't offered.

I 100% agree with this, but I also think you have to look at it differently with an in-state kid.  Projections of how players perform in college are often not accurate, and I think you have to take a chance on in-state and local kids sometimes.  I get it that in a sport like BB there are only so many scholarships, and you have to get the best possible kids available.

With that many offers, including two low-level P-5 offers, that kid has to be doing something right.  I just hope they haven't closed the door on her.  At least give her a greyshirt or walk-on offer.   We don't have a single 2022 commit yet, and many of the best recruits have already verballed somewhere.  Just saying.

Danny Woodhead is a great non-basket ball analogy.  The RB was "too short" to get a Nebraska offer, so he went to Chadron State, where he destroyed all the school records and went on to play in the NFL.  Bet they wished they would have offered.  Hell, just look at AJP on the men's team.

Going to agree with CF. The Yotes are better than the other programs on that list. They have earned to right to be selective with who they offer.

As for the in-state thing, I don't think it matters as much as people like to think. I grew up in Nebraska. I know all about the 'good old days' when Osborne would build championship teams with basically just Nebraska farm kids. People love to bring that up but always fail to mention that the majority of the star players were guys they brought in from other places. But anyway. That model doesn't work anymore. The recruiting landscape got so much bigger and the world got so much smaller. Until about the mid-late 2000s, recruiting was still done by sending VHS tapes or DVDs in the mail or building relationships with high school coaches that will funnel you players. These days, you can find any player you want with the stats and specs you're looking for in about 30 seconds online. You can recruit on the other side of the world just about as easily as you can a hundred miles down the road. Of course there is still a place for in-state kids on the roster, but I don't think it needs to be considered nearly as much it used to. In this particular case, if she really wants to be a Yote, bring her in. Maybe not on a scholarship right away, but if this is where she wants to play, there's a lot to be said for that as well.

[kiyoat]

Apr 30, 2021 6:49:57 GMT -6 fightsd said:

Apr 29, 2021 8:18:23 GMT -6 kiyoat said:

I 100% agree with this, but I also think you have to look at it differently with an in-state kid.  

Going to agree with CF. The Yotes are better than the other programs on that list. They have earned to right to be selective with who they offer.

Again, I 100% agree we are (currently) better than those teams.  That doesn't mean she won't ever get better offers.  P-5 is P-5, even lower-tier programs.  At Kansas she would be playing in Allen Fieldhouse.  Nuff said.  Her recruiting is heating up at the moment, possibly because it is late in the recruiting cycle.

As for the in-state thing, I don't think it matters as much as people like to think... Of course there is still a place for in-state kids on the roster, but I don't think it needs to be considered nearly as much it used to...

I'll agree with you as it relates to MBB and Football.  In WBB and Volleyball the mid-west is a pretty fertile recruiting zone.  Despite our small population, there is plenty of talent within our 500-mile radius to compete at an elite level, including SD kids.  Truth be told, it's more like a 300-mile radius in volleyball.  Coach P has shown that she wants in-state kids, as well.  It does matter to the fanbase, and you absolutely can win with those kids.  Hell, most years the top two or three girls players in the state are almost guaranteed to get D-1 in-state offers, and that is from two elite mid-majors.  Not sure why it is different here.

[GoYotes]

I think, in addition to having the physical talent, the most important thing is that the player fits the culture of the team. It is now more important than ever with the one-time transfer rules in all sports. Regional athletes are more likely to fit the culture, but just because they are from the region doesn't guarantee they fit the culture. Likewise, just because they aren't from the region doesn't mean the don't fit the culture.

For those that fit the culture and come to USD they will experience success and once a Yote, always a Yote.

[kiyoat]

Apr 30, 2021 8:22:43 GMT -6 GoYotes said:

I think, in addition to having the physical talent, the most important thing is that the player fits the culture of the team. It is now more important than ever with the one-time transfer rules in all sports. Regional athletes are more likely to fit the culture, but just because they are from the region doesn't guarantee they fit the culture. Likewise, just because they aren't from the region doesn't mean the don't fit the culture.

For those that fit the culture and come to USD they will experience success and once a Yote, always a Yote.

Fair point.  I'll have to admit I have heard something to this effect recently (rumor only).

Would be nice to know who our staff is evaluating or giving offers to in this class, but I'm sure it will be worth the wait.  Plenty of talented young women that would like to play for Coach P right now.  They'll find a fit.

[kiyoat]

Mar 25, 2021 13:38:34 GMT -6 kiyoat said:

2020-2021 team
lose 4 seniors(TayFred/Bonar/Duffy/Mac)
add 4 freshmen (Krull/Hansen/Watson/Mazurek)
add 1 transfer (Williston)
zero open scholarships

2021-2022 team
lose 2 seniors? (Arens/Kunzer)
return 3 fifth-year Seniors? (Sjerven/Lamb/Korngable) (extra schollies)
add 3 Freshmen (Carson/Larkins/Duffney 2021 class)
two open scholarships

2022-2023 team
lose 3 fifth-year Seniors (Sjerven/Lamb/Korngable)
lose 1  Senior (Sankey)
return 3 Seniors? (Guebert, Peplowski, Williston)
add ____ Freshmen? (2022 class)
three open scholarships

After looking at the new roster for the 2022 team, the scholarship picture is a little more clear.  Sankey will  be considered a Senior in 2022, and Guebert and Peplowski will be considered Juniors.  That should balance out the classes a little.  Lose four after next season, lose three after that, Then lose just two (Ugofsky, Hempe) after that.  Then the crap will hit the fan with the double-freshman class.  There is a lot of time between now and then, though.  could lose some to transfer, some could redshirt, etc.  who knows.

The big takeaway here  is that there should now be THREE potential scholarships open for the High School class of 2022 (Juniors right now).  and we still have no commits I am aware of.

[captaincoyote]