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Post by deadred on Nov 16, 2021 16:13:42 GMT -6
While I think your post is meant to be open and transparent, I honestly don’t think your O-line can “pound us into submission”. I don’t care who your quarterback is, he’s not what you’ve had in the past. I said it in a post yesterday, there’s one telling stat that I think will determine the winner. Our defensive front 7 vs your offensive line. I repeat, I don’t think there’s a chance in hell you pound us into submission. You are not your mothers typical NDSU team and we sure as hell aren’t your mothers typical USD team. I’m not saying we’ll win, but I will lay down if our guys don’t exchange blows to the last play. The edge in this game is your Dome. If we can quiet it somewhat, then the choke collar is on the Buffalo and not the Coyote. We have nothing to lose and everything to gain. I guaranty you this team IS NOT intimidated. They could careless about your storied past. And I honestly say that affectionately. It means nothing to them. They believe they are the best team in the league and you know what? So do I. I would point out SDSU was pounding you into submission with Strong, and NDSU has that same ability. (I watched the game.) Are you saying NDSU is not as good as SDSU? That is fine then and we can agree to disagree, but NDSU is every bit as good as SDSU. On Bisonville, you said we held Strong in check until the last drive, when coincidentally, we were attempting to get the ball back for a final possession. Also, some reporting in the last couple weeks about the 2021 OL not being like traditional ndsu lines. Next, yoteforever is correct, your QB situation sucks...sorry. Your starter is the same guy from this spring that most weren't happy with...and then he loses his job in the fall!! Lastly, the beatdown that sdsu was giving you a few weeks ago says that they are better than you. Geez, for those not in the area, you should have seen/heard the excuse making. ndsu very well may win this game, but it won't be because they are a team that stands head and shoulders above others like they did in recent history.
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 16, 2021 18:16:17 GMT -6
Talk junk about NDSU at your own peril, they've more than earned their reputation. I won't say anything other than I think it will be a good game and I think USD has a good chance because we have a pretty good team this season.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 16, 2021 18:21:52 GMT -6
I think YF is spot on when he says all the statistics put us in this game, if not ahead in this game. The difference is playing in the Fargo Dome. Visitors usually have a bad time there.
I'll also agree with what our visiting poster says when he points out just how vulnerable we are if Camp gets hit. The offense has not worked well without Camp, including the couple drives against sdsu in the 1st quarter (yet another break for the bunnies that still resulted in USD playing the better game...I swear we could have won that game by like 3 TDs if breaks went our way the first 59:59 of the game). I also am not encouraged to see NDSU run for over 9,000 yards against Youngstown last week.
I will not be surprised whatsoever if USD wins on Saturday. I'll be over the moon because of how much it means for this program, but I won't be surprised.
I also will not be surprised if NDSU finally puts it all together and wins by 3 TDs. They consistently crushed opponents' dreams for like 10 straight years (past tense, but not that long ago).
The one thing I know will happen is that USD will be prepared for this game and will fight until the final whistle. This team has shown a "never say die" mentality every single game this season. Kept forcing fumbles against Missouri State late in a very frustrating game, kept fighting all the way against Illinois State when Camp was out, and kept fighting until the final second against sdsu when it was bad enough that we had fans headed to their cars. I absolutely love this team.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 16, 2021 19:45:06 GMT -6
Week 12 predictions from Hero Sports: herosports.com/fcs-football-week-12-predictions-montana-state-montana-bzbz/This is the first time I've seen anyone acknowledge that NDSU has not won Saturday's game yet. Of course they do expect an NDSU win, but do say that USD would likely get that top 8 seed and a bye week with a win. They also say that sdsu is out of the playoffs with a loss, given they'd have the same amount of wins as UND and UNI, but with losses to both. So nice to see a national writer paying attention instead of just crowning the names they've seen recently.
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 16, 2021 20:33:12 GMT -6
Playoff thread would be better spot, but if we lose at NDSU I assume we're still in. Home game?
I don't care if it's Thanksgiving weekend. Will be there and off the hook.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 16, 2021 21:01:50 GMT -6
Playoff thread would be better spot, but if we lose at NDSU I assume we're still in. Home game? I don't care if it's Thanksgiving weekend. Will be there and off the hook. My bad. Move it if you'd like. USD is a lock for the playoffs according to everything I've seen. If we do play Thanksgiving weekend it better be at home. That's up to the ADs of the teams involved and how much each one bids to host. I believe that's how it works for every unseeded matchup. I know we won't be cheap if we have to bid.
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Post by bobo on Nov 16, 2021 21:23:04 GMT -6
I’ll chime in on this one. The terrific hail marry play at the end doesn’t even happen or need to happen if we convert the 3rd down in our second to last possession. Matter of fact, the blown 4th down conversion isn’t even attempted. I watched the full SDSU game for the first time last night because I got back from out of town. If Camp throws to #14 on that 3rd down it is probably a TD and SDSU is attempting to score a TD on their last drive not trying to burn the clock.
This NDSU-USD game should be a slugfest. Both teams match up well personnel-wise and are coached extremely well. Can’t wait!
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Post by gfunk75 on Nov 17, 2021 12:43:44 GMT -6
Recently announced NDSU’s kit for the game will be the green harvest helmets and alt yellow jerseys…the yotes may as well just skip the game, haha.
All kidding aside I expect a respectable game in an environment that probably hasn’t been experienced at an NDSU game since maybe 2018?? My prediction is 28-17 bison win…with one of those TDs coming late to ice to the game.
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 17, 2021 13:01:36 GMT -6
Playoff thread would be better spot, but if we lose at NDSU I assume we're still in. Home game? I don't care if it's Thanksgiving weekend. Will be there and off the hook. My bad. Move it if you'd like. USD is a lock for the playoffs according to everything I've seen. If we do play Thanksgiving weekend it better be at home. That's up to the ADs of the teams involved and how much each one bids to host. I believe that's how it works for every unseeded matchup. I know we won't be cheap if we have to bid. Actually, I was referring to what I was about to post. It's all good.
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Post by thesocalledfan on Nov 17, 2021 14:55:11 GMT -6
This has been a great discussion. Couple words of caution in your analysis of NDSU:
1. You can't underestimate who the SDSU game would have turned if they don't have the two 15 yard penalties (one a roughing the kicker) when they were set to get good field position and ability to tie the game in half #1. (and the Jacks still needs crazy trick play to score their TD) SDSU are a great team no doubt about it, but saying they are way better than NDSU is like saying that after the 2017 game (see what happened to the Jacks in Fargo later that year).
2. Like Camp, Miller is a true COVID freshman....he is still figuring it out. Camp is a better QB IMO, but don't write him off yet.......he has shown flashes of great play, even in the SDSU game. (Check out the Missouri St comeback if you have not already.....)
Going to be a great, great game. Curious how many USD fans are coming....ticket are close to sold out at this point I'm hearing.
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Post by fightsd on Nov 17, 2021 15:07:48 GMT -6
This has been a great discussion. Couple words of caution in your analysis of NDSU: 1. You can't underestimate who the SDSU game would have turned if they don't have the two 15 yard penalties (one a roughing the kicker) when they were set to get good field position and ability to tie the game in half #1. (and the Jacks still needs crazy trick play to score their TD) SDSU are a great team no doubt about it, but saying they are way better than NDSU is like saying that after the 2017 game (see what happened to the Jacks in Fargo later that year). 2. Like Camp, Miller is a true COVID freshman....he is still figuring it out. Camp is a better QB IMO, but don't write him off yet.......he has shown flashes of great play, even in the SDSU game. (Check out the Missouri St comeback if you have not already.....) Going to be a great, great game. Curious how many USD fans are coming....ticket are close to sold out at this point I'm hearing. I don't think anybody is underestimating NDSU and what the energy will be like on Saturday. If they are, they've never run out of that tunnel in the Fargodome and been harassed by old ladies and little kids in the first row for 4 hours. I got to play in front of a lot of fun crowds, but I've never heard old women talk the way they yelled at our sideline in that building lol. I'm talking serious obscenities coming from blue haired broads and middle school aged kids haha. But seriously, nobody is taking this game lightly based on the results of both games against SDSU. I've tried my best to stay away from Bisonville because opposing forums just get me worked up. But from my observations over there, it seems like the concensus is NDSU will run up the score to make a statement for seeding purposes. I would caution your squad not to look past the yotes this weekend.
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Post by gopheryote on Nov 17, 2021 16:41:25 GMT -6
I don't think anybody is underestimating NDSU and what the energy will be like on Saturday. If they are, they've never run out of that tunnel in the Fargodome and been harassed by old ladies and little kids in the first row for 4 hours. I got to play in front of a lot of fun crowds, but I've never heard old women talk the way they yelled at our sideline in that building lol. I'm talking serious obscenities coming from blue haired broads and middle school aged kids haha. But seriously, nobody is taking this game lightly based on the results of both games against SDSU. I've tried my best to stay away from Bisonville because opposing forums just get me worked up. But from my observations over there, it seems like the concensus is NDSU will run up the score to make a statement for seeding purposes. I would caution your squad not to look past the yotes this weekend. I totally disagree. I think NDSU and their fans should totally look past the Yotes and really just worry about seeding projections and reminding themselves how awesome they are.
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Post by gfunk75 on Nov 17, 2021 17:04:21 GMT -6
I don't think anybody is underestimating NDSU and what the energy will be like on Saturday. If they are, they've never run out of that tunnel in the Fargodome and been harassed by old ladies and little kids in the first row for 4 hours. I got to play in front of a lot of fun crowds, but I've never heard old women talk the way they yelled at our sideline in that building lol. I'm talking serious obscenities coming from blue haired broads and middle school aged kids haha. But seriously, nobody is taking this game lightly based on the results of both games against SDSU. I've tried my best to stay away from Bisonville because opposing forums just get me worked up. But from my observations over there, it seems like the concensus is NDSU will run up the score to make a statement for seeding purposes. I would caution your squad not to look past the yotes this weekend. I totally disagree. I think NDSU and their fans should totally look past the Yotes and really just worry about seeding projections and reminding themselves how awesome they are. Shoot most Bison fans are doing that in February already, haha. That’s why they’re called fans. And that’s the expectation in Fargo now. Rest assured - the people that actually matter (the players ans coaches) will be doing anything other than overlooking the yotes. They are aware of what’s at stake, but they certainly will not be taking it for granted, especially when looking at their competition. Also, while I recognize that YSU could have cared less about that game and just wanted to get it over with so they could get warm, NDSU showed no signs of overlooking them.
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Post by elcoyote on Nov 17, 2021 18:55:30 GMT -6
This has been a great discussion. Couple words of caution in your analysis of NDSU: 1. You can't underestimate who the SDSU game would have turned if they don't have the two 15 yard penalties (one a roughing the kicker) when they were set to get good field position and ability to tie the game in half #1. (and the Jacks still needs crazy trick play to score their TD) SDSU are a great team no doubt about it, but saying they are way better than NDSU is like saying that after the 2017 game (see what happened to the Jacks in Fargo later that year). 2. Like Camp, Miller is a true COVID freshman....he is still figuring it out. Camp is a better QB IMO, but don't write him off yet.......he has shown flashes of great play, even in the SDSU game. (Check out the Missouri St comeback if you have not already.....) Going to be a great, great game. Curious how many USD fans are coming....ticket are close to sold out at this point I'm hearing. I don't think anybody is underestimating NDSU and what the energy will be like on Saturday. If they are, they've never run out of that tunnel in the Fargodome and been harassed by old ladies and little kids in the first row for 4 hours. I got to play in front of a lot of fun crowds, but I've never heard old women talk the way they yelled at our sideline in that building lol. I'm talking serious obscenities coming from blue haired broads and middle school aged kids haha.
But seriously, nobody is taking this game lightly based on the results of both games against SDSU. I've tried my best to stay away from Bisonville because opposing forums just get me worked up. But from my observations over there, it seems like the concensus is NDSU will run up the score to make a statement for seeding purposes. I would caution your squad not to look past the yotes this weekend. This is the kind of crap that drives me crazy especially since NDSU always tries to portray itself as a classy, welcoming fanbase. It get rooting hard for your team. I get heckling the opponent, but use of vulgarities has absolutely no place in collegiate sports or at any level for that manner. I certainly hope USD fans aren't like this. I've been on the sidelines for a few away games and have heard some things that were absolutely disgusting directed at our players and even the cheerleaders. Missouri State this year had to be the worst. Why schools don't crack down on this is beyond me. If my dad had taken me to a game when I was growing up and I would have acted like that, I'm sure I would have been grounded for life and told that I wasn't going to be going to games anymore. Maybe I'm too old and it's a different world now. On the flip side of the coin, at Northern Colorado a few years ago their students were directly behind the USD bench and were on the players pretty good, but I don't remember a single f bomb being thrown and some of the comments were actually kind of clever and funny. Nothing wrong with that at all. I'll get off my soap box now.
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Post by fightsd on Nov 17, 2021 20:12:33 GMT -6
I don't think anybody is underestimating NDSU and what the energy will be like on Saturday. If they are, they've never run out of that tunnel in the Fargodome and been harassed by old ladies and little kids in the first row for 4 hours. I got to play in front of a lot of fun crowds, but I've never heard old women talk the way they yelled at our sideline in that building lol. I'm talking serious obscenities coming from blue haired broads and middle school aged kids haha.
But seriously, nobody is taking this game lightly based on the results of both games against SDSU. I've tried my best to stay away from Bisonville because opposing forums just get me worked up. But from my observations over there, it seems like the concensus is NDSU will run up the score to make a statement for seeding purposes. I would caution your squad not to look past the yotes this weekend. This is the kind of crap that drives me crazy especially since NDSU always tries to portray itself as a classy, welcoming fanbase. It get rooting hard for your team. I get heckling the opponent, but use of vulgarities has absolutely no place in collegiate sports or at any level for that manner. I certainly hope USD fans aren't like this. I've been on the sidelines for a few away games and have heard some things that were absolutely disgusting directed at our players and even the cheerleaders. Missouri State this year had to be the worst. Why schools don't crack down on this is beyond me. If my dad had taken me to a game when I was growing up and I would have acted like that, I'm sure I would have been grounded for life and told that I wasn't going to be going to games anymore. Maybe I'm too old and it's a different world now. On the flip side of the coin, at Northern Colorado a few years ago their students were directly behind the USD bench were on the players pretty good, but I don't remember a single f bomb being thrown and some of the comments were actually kind of clever and funny. Nothing wrong with that at all. I'll get off my soap box now. I want to make myself clear here. NDSU is nowhere near the most hostile crowd in terms of language and such. It was just language I didn't expect to hear coming from that particular demographic. There were no personal attacks or anything, just passionate fans having a good time and heckling the other team. Some colorful language but nothing you wouldn't hear in any PG13 movie. I just had never been heckled by old ladies before that's why it sticks out in my mind. Now in general, the Fargodome is one of the toughest places I ever personally played in and that includes places like Camp Randall and Montana. I have nothing but respect for Bison fans. State fans on the other hand, well you know.
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