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Post by kiyoat on Feb 8, 2023 15:14:42 GMT -6
Predictions:
Jacks win 69-62 (+7) Massey
Jacks win 84-62 (+22) WN
Unless I am mistaken, the Jacks can clinch the regular season title with a win on Saturday.
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 8, 2023 15:26:35 GMT -6
Weekly update with AJ:  "...The last game we played against (the Yotes) was just one of those games where things went really well for us, and not very well for them. There's really not much to take from that game, honestly... as a coach, I've been on both sides of those (types of) games... you just move forward from it, whether you were on the winning side or the losing side. We really expect the game on Saturday to be very different. And hopefully we will have a really good week of practice to get ourselves ready to go..." |
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 8, 2023 15:27:23 GMT -6
Coyote Report weekly interview with Coach Karius: goyotes.com/sports/2019/8/28/yotecast-podcast.aspxon the Jacks:"...(The Jacks) are a really versatile team. They have shot the ball as well as they ever have this season.... Every one of their players can post up... They are playing 9 or 10 players a really even amount... just because they are so deep. They are a really talented and veteran team.... It's gonna be another big challenge for us..." on the game-plan:"... honestly, we can't afford for anyone to get into foul trouble... we have to defend without fouling... We just have to get better at what we do... right now it's just about "are we getting better?"... as good as they are, we just have to know who WE are, and play to our strengths." |
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Post by 90yote on Feb 8, 2023 17:46:38 GMT -6
I've been thinking of posting this somewhere so this is probably as good of a place as any...
A number of co-workers and friends have asked me about what has happened to the Yotes this season. They casually follow it and are aware of the coaching change and graduation of the top players, but when I walk through everything that has happened they are quite stunned. So I thought of how to explain this to a Jacks fan and came up with this comparison. How would the Jacks be affected if the following occurred in the next year? This is not a perfect comparison, but some of it fits. And no, I do not wish this upon that program! It's just a way to ask how that program would look if all of the following happened.
- SDSU wins two games in the tournament and almost makes the Elite 8.
- Johnston leaves for a P5 job and takes his entire coaching staff with him.
- Selland, Burckhard, and Gylten graduate.
- Timmer and Nelson both transfer. One follows AJ.
- Theisen and B. Meyer both tear their ACL's, one in the coming month and one during the summer. They both miss the 23-24 season (ed: this is where it's not a great comparison, as both of those players are more accomplished than the two Coyote posts they are being compared to).
- Vlaustin suffers an injury but plays through it for a while before having to sit out the rest of the 23-24 year.
- One of the incoming freshmen who is expected to play decent minutes tears her ACL in October.
- One of the players who the new coach recruits through the portal tears her ACL in the fifth game after playing big minutes as a starter.
- Paige Meyer shows herself to be one of the top players in the league and narrowly misses a few triple-doubles.
This exercise also serves another purpose, to keep reminding me of this after losses like the ones last weekend and what may occur on Saturday. I think it keeps me more level-headed.
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Post by yotenation on Feb 8, 2023 18:09:31 GMT -6
The hits this squad has taken have been pretty brutal. I'm not as concerned about the future implications of this as some. The Yotes have excellent young talent (Larkins, Duffney, Demers) that should continue to get better. They've also seen some role players get important minutes which will help in their development. And they've got some nice talent in the pipeline with the three incoming freshman and Bergstrom coming back as a redshirt freshman next year.
We knew this season would be a challenge with the limited experience and all the change. And it's been made even more challenging with the injuries. Feels like they are snakebit sometimes.
I still think this program will be back very soon. Just my take.
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Post by fightsd on Feb 8, 2023 22:23:51 GMT -6
I think this season is going to hurt the future more then most realize. We had a culture of dominating the league now we've taken a major step back. It will take longer than you think to get back to where this program was a year ago.
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Post by elcoyote on Feb 8, 2023 22:48:24 GMT -6
A year ago? USD might not have a team reach the sweet 16 for a very long time, if ever again. Fact of life for a mid-major. If that's where you're setting the bar be prepared for a lot of disappointment in the future. One thing is for certain though: we'll never have the benefit of three ridiculously talented seniors who all came back for a bonus year due to covid. Where would we have been last season without them?
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Post by 88grad on Feb 9, 2023 7:49:32 GMT -6
A year ago? USD might not have a team reach the sweet 16 for a very long time, if ever again. Fact of life for a mid-major. If that's where you're setting the bar be prepared for a lot of disappointment in the future. One thing is for certain though: we'll never have the benefit of three ridiculously talented seniors who all came back for a bonus year due to covid. Where would we have been last season without them? Accurate! Where would have been without them? Well, I would offer that this year's team would be better had we not had "the big three" as everyone would have had that year to play. Wouldn't have played into the Sweet 16 but I believe we'd be better for it today. Maybe even would have kept Dawn, Kaya and Maddie. |
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Post by elcoyote on Feb 9, 2023 8:23:19 GMT -6
A year ago? USD might not have a team reach the sweet 16 for a very long time, if ever again. Fact of life for a mid-major. If that's where you're setting the bar be prepared for a lot of disappointment in the future. One thing is for certain though: we'll never have the benefit of three ridiculously talented seniors who all came back for a bonus year due to covid. Where would we have been last season without them? Accurate! Where would have been without them? Well, I would offer that this year's team would be better had we not had "the big three" as everyone would have had that year to play. Wouldn't have played into the Sweet 16 but I believe we'd be better for it today. Maybe even would have kept Dawn, Kaya and Maddie. I'll make this trade for the Sweet 16 appearance. |
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Post by yoteforever on Feb 9, 2023 9:19:32 GMT -6
Last year was magical. Absolutely, unequivocally nothing short of that. A great year, unbelievable level of play, all done with kids we’d all be proud to call our own. A bona fide potential Hall of Fame coach lead this team. What this tells me is that it can be done again. And again. But we have to make the investment in the program and not just hope it happens. That means ticket sales and HP memberships need to rise.
Take a look at our VB program. We have a coach that truly WANTS to be here. She has maybe one of the top assistants in the country. Continue to invest in this program and we’ll be saying the same thing about this sport as we’re saying with basketball. We have very good players that have been coached up. Continue being successful and you start signing kids with a little bit more talent and so on.
I’m hopeful Coach Kayla is the right person. Not making excuses, but she’s been dealt a tough hand. Our young kids appear to me to be awfully talented. But I’m not a BB guy, so I’ll leave that opinion open for debate amongst those of you that truly do understand the game. I just feel very strongly that in basketball if you have a somewhat solid base it doesn’t take as long to climb to the top as say football. Less kids. One or two recruits exceed expectations, maybe a transfer ( like Hannah )and you’re off to the races. The level of talent between Power 5’s and mid majors isn’t like it used to be. Last years team proved that.
But at the end of the day, if you want to succeed in what I’d call the (4) majors….WBB, VB, MBB and FB,then you have to invest in all those programs. Arm the respective coaching staffs with what they need to succeed. Not just get by on bare minimums. Their needs are all different I can attest to that. But I’m telling you we aren’t that far off of succeeding if we set our directive to accomplishing that goal. Of course I want all sports at USD to succeed, but the (4) biggies are the ones people discuss on Monday morning and get hyped as game day gets closer. That is why you want / need successful teams to market your university.
Our women’s basketball and volleyball can repeat what WBB did last year. I believe that. But we must invest. Period.
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Post by Men's League Waterboy on Feb 9, 2023 10:48:06 GMT -6
The COVID year took and gave and, along with the portal, has caused ripples in collegiate athletics that are being felt and will continue to be felt for a while. The Yotes rode that wave to incredible heights and are now trying to figure out a way to swim out from the undertow a bit. I don't think anybody would trade that WNIT championship run, damn near a top-10 ranking in the nation and a Sweet 16 run just to be 12-1 or 11-2 in conference play this season. But maybe I'm wrong.
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Post by yote18 on Feb 9, 2023 10:51:40 GMT -6
A lot of fair points out there, but I’d say it’s 50/50 on whether or not this season hurts us long term and it’s too early to know. At this point our goal is make sure our recruits maintain their commitments and that we don’t have anyone transfer out. Right now if you’re being offered by sdsu and USD I’m sorry but they’re going to consider SDSU more.
I hope Kayla is the right one for the job, I really do. But your first season is about building relationships and buy-in to your culture regardless of the outcome. We’re towards the end of that crucial first year and this team still does not have that.
I also agree on the funding portion; why we still think we can only pay $150k (I assume that’s her starting, idk tho) as a d1 school for a quality basketball coach is idiotic esp when we shell out 300k for a 2/7 winning season FB coach.
*edit she makes $240k per open SD website
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Post by fightsd on Feb 9, 2023 11:17:51 GMT -6
Nobody wants to trade last season for a good conference record this year. I'm talking about the culture of winning that was built here over the past 4 or 5 years. I'm concerned that the culture left with Dawn and the transfers. I know this team has been dealt a tough hand, but they haven't looked like a team that was just in the Sweet 16. And that's understandable, half of the squad wasn't on that team and the other half didn't really have to contribute. I was hopeful that Grace and some of the other girls that were a part of that team and culture last year would transfer that over to the new team and staff, but I just haven't seen it yet. Not saying it can't be done, but there's a long way to go. I just don't want this to be the new normal for this team.
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Post by 90yote on Feb 9, 2023 11:25:34 GMT -6
A lot of fair points out there, but I’d say it’s 50/50 on whether or not this season hurts us long term and it’s too early to know. At this point our goal is make sure our recruits maintain their commitments and that we don’t have anyone transfer out. Right now if you’re being offered by sdsu and USD I’m sorry but they’re going to consider SDSU more. I hope Kayla is the right one for the job, I really do. But your first season is about building relationships and buy-in to your culture regardless of the outcome. We’re towards the end of that crucial first year and this team still does not have that. I also agree on the funding portion; why we still think we can only pay $150k (I assume that’s her starting, idk tho) as a d1 school for a quality basketball coach is idiotic esp when we shell out 300k for a 2/7 winning season FB coach. Dawn started out higher than that and ended at $275k (publicly available information). I can't find the starting salary for Kayla, but I feel safe in saying it's higher than 150. |
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Post by 90yote on Feb 9, 2023 11:32:33 GMT -6
For those that claim they don't have the same culture, are you directly tied into the athletic department or coaches/players? Otherwise, I'm not sure how you say that. It may be right. But how do you know? Culture is great, but it's nebulous.
I do know what helps culture. Winning. And having a 6-3 center that is skilled, has a huge wingspan, is athletic, and may be the likes of someone who we will never see again in a Coyote uniform. Having someone like that would sure help the culture.
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